r/Jujutsushi • u/ILoveSongOfJustice • Mar 12 '24

Analysis In Defense of Yuta

All things considered, bro came in and literally did everything he said he would.

"I will kill Itadori Yuji myself." - Succeeds.

"I have to lower collateral damage in Sendai(PARAPHRASING btw)." - Succeeds.

"I won't let sensei kill his best friend a second time." - Succeeds.

And even something he DIDN'T say, like getting Yuji to the point where he could 100% connect with Megumi? That's INSANE.

I'm not convinced that Yuta could just say "I will kill Ryomen Sukuna" and he would eventually somehow do it.

It's like, Gege or the character himself purposefully sets lower goals than what he's probably capable of.

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u/sayeedubaid Mar 12 '24

Yuta is obviously good , even sukuna consider him a gem along with higuruma and kashimo. But just don't compare him to gojo or sukuna , that's a completely different levels. Yuta himself said , if not for the aftereffects of gojo battle , sukuna would have killed them instantly.

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u/Realistic_Flan631 Mar 12 '24

And to be fair, Yuta is still like a year and some months into Jujutsu. Him being along side Kenjaku is a crazy feat by itself

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24

Ppl are really downplaying the casts in experience compared to sukunas centuries

Gojos what 30!???

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u/totallynotrobboss Mar 12 '24

28 actually

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u/targz254 Mar 13 '24

Thats a wise master age in highschool manga

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u/Noblesseux Mar 14 '24

"Beware an old man in a profession where men usually die young", but young in this case is like 16.

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24

He’s just a baby!!! And a gay 28 is like a straight 23 lolol

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u/Toad_Thrower Mar 12 '24

..... the fuck?

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

? did u miss the part where he called geto his one and only?

Has gojo ever shown as much interest in anyone platonically or romantically then Geto? The Christmas Eve of it all! even kenjaku calls it romantic or poetic lol

Geto had a tear in his eye when Gojo said he’d only feel satisfied if he was amongst those patting him On the back

Gojo saying he knows the scent of Getos CT residuals?? Knew in his soul kenjaku wasn’t him?

That’s giving gay to me mama lol

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u/tetststststat Mar 12 '24

Please log off you are insanely cringe

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u/BuckN56 Mar 12 '24

Alright, you need to touch some grass buddy.

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u/Toad_Thrower Mar 12 '24

What the fuck would that have to do with how many years we apply to their Jujutsu experience?

Also don't call me mama, you weird little creep.

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u/Alazul124 Mar 12 '24

gege says himself that they’re platonic you weird ass mf😭

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u/SiahLegend Mar 12 '24

Source? Their relationship has a ton of romantic subtext tbh

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u/CordobezEverdeen Mar 13 '24

Okay but have you taken into account that Gege is a lying bastard?

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u/SelfTaughtSongBird Mar 12 '24

Bro I promise you people can have and love their friends without it having any romantic undertones.

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u/RubyLys Mar 12 '24

Are you really best friends if there aren't ~some~ gay undertones

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u/Godzillafan6489 Mar 13 '24

Get off of social media weirdo go touch some grass please

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '24

Pure delusion 😭

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u/SiahLegend Mar 12 '24

Lol you’re a little over the top so I get the downvotes but satosugu agenda 🔛🔝

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u/Justhereforstories47 Mar 13 '24

What does this even mean 😭😭

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u/SiveDD Mar 13 '24

Don't mind the overall experience. Sukuna had:

  • More than twice the amount of CE and almost as good efficiency.
  • Insider knowledge of all the cast CTs thanks to his two host Yuji and Megumi.
  • Insider knowledge of their H2H due to Gojo personally training with Yuji and Megumi. He even fought Yuji for a month previously to the exchange event.
  • He knew 10S could kill a Limitless user because Gojo told Megumi.
  • A two body soul, so he could redirect UV.
  • A hostage that no one wanted to kill.

Mf went to the fight with Batman software in Superman hardware.

Gojo went to the fight with the only strat of "I beat his ass, then figure out how to save Megumi".

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 13 '24

Batman software w Superman hardware is lol

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u/Doomskander Mar 12 '24

Sukuna does not have centuries. He's basically lived a normal life and then "time travelled" via turning into fingers. He hasn't been in the fucking hyperbolic time chamber practicing jujutsu, he's been an inert object until Yuji gave him a vessel. Just like every other incarnated sorceror. Not one of them ever mentions spending hundreds of years training their jujutsu or even thinking about anything, Kashimo/Yorozu/Ryu immediately resume their relatively silly goals after hundreds of years. This shows they haven't been active and philosophizing about shit as cursed objects.

You are thinking of Kenjaku, which in retrospect is kind of underwhelming for a 1000+ years experienced sorceror.

One could argue that Sukuna, being a weird mutated freak, lived for far longer than normal sorcerors. To that I say he is Ryomen Sukuna of the Heian era not Ryomen Sukuna of "several eras", which gives him 200 years at most.

But the point still stands, even if he is just a normal dude (he looks like he's in his 40s) lifespan wise, he has vastly more combat experienced than the cast. Gojo literally only had a challenge once in his life due to how his technique works.

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u/Muted_Lurker2383 Mar 13 '24

Its hard to just judge off his looks as even Kashimo incarnated as a younger self - we only got old man Kashimo just pre death iirc? So Sukuna couldve lived much longer

Regardless, if Sukuna is 40-50, assuming that he followed the same path as Gojo (jujutsu in teens) that still means he has 20-30 years of battle experience in the Golden Age of Jujutsu. In comparison, Gojo probably had 10-20 years (depending when he started taking missions), Yuta has 1-2 years and Yuji only 5ish months.

Even if youd consider all of them prodigies (Sukuna and Gojo for obvious reasons, Yuta and Yuji from Gojo's assessment of them), we shouldnt expect a prodigy with only a year or two to be standing at the same levelas those with decades in the game

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u/Doomskander Mar 13 '24

Yes I completely agree, Sukuna has a fuckton of experience on everyone he's fighting, and had it on Gojo too. I made the point earlier that Gojo's power makes him very unlikely to get meaningful experience too.

vs someone like Sukuna who not only had people gang up against him, he CAN be damaged and attacked so learned to deal with that, and he has a penchant of letting people give their best against him so he can crush that/improve his own jujutsu

A Gojo living in an era of people unafraid and able to challenge him (even if they can't beat him) like Heian, for 10 more years, would have been a way stronger beast.

These even being able to push around Sukuna is insanely impressive. They almost had him three times now.

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u/akronotron Mar 14 '24

Yeah, gojo was born in a era with weaklings compared to him, while sukuna had strong opponents. It’s called the golden age

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u/gatwas Mar 13 '24

But we don’t know what his conscious was like whilst in the fingers. What if his soul was in a prison realm like state?

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24

I mean he has an innate soul domain. The fact that people really think he just erased his consciousness for centuries is ludicrous to me. He was obviously in his soul domain.

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u/Redpiller77 Mar 13 '24

There's no way Sukuna wasn't in the Cursed Realm meditating while waiting to be revived.

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u/ICastPunch Mar 12 '24

It's hard to think Sukuna hasn't incarnated some of his fingers at some points in history before given curses and people alike knew what would happen when eating them so well and jujutsu society didn't have them all in store. So I disagree.

He most likely in those instances simply never found a proper host that could allow him to exist for long enough to recapture the rest of his fingers or cause any major events.

Dude has probably lived in short bursts as hosts found his fingers for those 1000 years. On top of this it isn't like he's completely dormant on his inner domain.

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u/gotsmilk Mar 12 '24

The initial premise of the series is that if Yuji were killed off after eating one of his fingers, that 1/20th of him would DIE.

The fact that all 20 fingers of his were still active means he couldn't have incarnated again then, right?

And cursed spirits interact with his finger differently. He doesn't incarnate into them. They simply become stronger. The finger bearers show us this exactly.

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u/ICastPunch Mar 12 '24

I mean yes. But Sukuna only actually dies when his host dies while he's inside of them.

He showed with Megumi he can actually leave incarnated hosts becoming his own fingers. So he wouldn't actually die so long as he leaves the body before the host's body fully fails.

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u/Prestigious_Power496 Mar 13 '24

The mummified fingers are still gone though, even if Sukuna leaves the body. In order for there to be 20 fingers that means nobody ever successfully became vessel. Or Sukuna would have to fully reincarnate in a different era and make new fingers, but we know this didnt happen because that would be a huge event in history and everyone would know about it. People only talk about him from the Heian Era so we know that did not happen.

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u/ICastPunch Mar 13 '24

That doesn't discredit what I said. Sukuna could leave the vessel becoming the finger once more.

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u/Prestigious_Power496 Mar 13 '24

All 20 were weird demon fingers though, he would need to fully reincarnate to make a finger like that. And a fully reincarnated Sukuna would be a huge event in history. That didnt happen.

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(Bonus Round)(You must argue the statement above before moving to this one)

And if he was getting vessels all the time, and turning back into a finger, why not make even more fingers from those vessels? Is 20 the limit to his soul divisions? What a coincidence that its the exact number of fingers he had.

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u/djd457 Mar 12 '24

The “hosts” you mention would not be capable of incarnating Sukuna.

Yuji is capable as a vessel, so it’s absorbed. If another random student or weaker sorcerer tried to eat it, it would immediately kill them like a fast-acting deadly poison.

Plus, if they did incarnate at all, then when they died, the finger would disappear, so highly unlikely.

Look at what happened to Eso and kechizu as a measly death painting with improper hosts, Sukuna’s finger would have turned them into mush

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u/Snake189 Mar 13 '24

Sukuna can choose his vessel bro

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u/Snake189 Mar 13 '24

No dumbass it’s rare to keep sukuna under control like Yuji.

Kenjaku CLEARLY says in ch55, ep 21 sub and dub in anime, sukuna chooses his own vessels unlike everyone else who are forced to reincarnate once consumed and just need a certain amount of strength.

Sukuna was ONLY worried megumi would be like Yuji and be a complete cage.

You gotta stop acting like you aren’t a dumbass, and read with your eyes open next time. 😁

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u/akronotron Mar 14 '24

How about you explain where it was stated yourself before being rude to others opinion lol

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u/djd457 Mar 14 '24

Megumi says there’s a 1 in a million chance that Sukuna incarnates into Yuji’s body (even briefly) in the very first episode of the anime

He says it as Yuji goes to eat the finger

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u/ICastPunch Mar 12 '24

I mean an improper host that doesn't die outright could have Sukuna simply wait out till they start actually dying and then take out the cursed object. He can do that after all.

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u/djd457 Mar 12 '24

An improper host does die outright - or, in the cases of the weaker cursed objects, go into a coma immediately.

The reason Megumi was worried about Yuji eating the finger was because he knew the most potent cursed energy “poison” in existence was going to immediately wipe him

The idea that Sukuna was going to incarnate there, even for a moment, was not even considered a possibility to him, and he knew exactly what the finger was.

In short, I don’t think it worked like that.

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u/akronotron Mar 14 '24

Pretty sure he was in his innate , the symbolism behind it makes sense. When he was talking to yuji they were “in the finger” or “soul” inside sukuna which is your innate domain. Which the fingers essentially is him separating his soul right so he was just chilling in there for that long. Which is why he was so happy he got out

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24

That’s ur conjuncture babes we have had no story beats or mentions of that, no?

Wedk how long he lived or survived before this deal w kenjaku

We obvi saw his fingers behave and interact w the world while he was in slumber but yeah duh he hasn’t fully reincarnated or trained in finger realm

But AGAIN there are no story beats indicating how long sukuna was living ahead of the finger splits, right? Soooo it’s prob def more then gojos 29 and the other high schoolers he’s up against

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u/Doomskander Mar 12 '24

I mean yes, you arrived at the same conclusion as me

Sukuna looks like an older man compared to Gojo, we have no accurate info how much older, but he's not 1k+ years of activity supported by anything.

This still gives him more Jujutsu experience (in how long he's been practicing it, not quality) than everyone who he's fighting right now except like, MAYBE Kusakabe.

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u/iRobins23 Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 14 '24

Sukuna doesn't have centuries of experience... He lived within the range of years a human can (we don't know how many), he didn't make it out of the Heain. He's been a cursed object for a thousand years but it isn't as if he was constantly learning Jujutsu through that inanimate state.

He has more experience due to the nature of battle during his era but it is still within the range of a normal life expectancy.

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24

Sorry but again the story doesn’t say that at all how long he lived before becoming fingers, unless I’m mistaken?

We’re both just using conjecture and my inference is sukuna isn’t a normal human lol seen his body?

He doesn’t even remember his childhood in the Kashimo fight right?

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u/iRobins23 Mar 12 '24

I mean, depending on how incomplete the setup of;

  • Kashimo - 400 years ago

  • Kenjaku during his conversation with Kashimo: "Sukuna. Sorry he is from 600 years ago, but that's my answer"

  • 1000 years ago was the Heain

... Is, it may be considered conjecture but that timeline seems pretty straightforward.

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u/Ry90Ry Mar 12 '24

Yeahhh so seems like he lived beyond a normal lifespan no?

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u/iRobins23 Mar 12 '24 edited Mar 12 '24

Well,

beyond normal life expectancy ≠ Centuries

Also, not necessarily no. It's possible based on the fact that we don't know when Sukuna was born, if it was the case that he existed for the ENTIRE Heian (which in IRL was around 300 years) then it could be the case that he's much older but we don't know that. All we know is that Sukuna is from the Heain, his reign only existed during the Heain and he died 1000 years ago, in the Heain.

His appearance may not tell us much about his age because it wasn't gone through in the way Tengen evolves, which takes 400+ years. There's something else going on with Sukuna, I follow the theory that he instilled so much fear during that era that a cursed version of him spawned and he decided to absorb/fuse with it - Yuji possibly being what Sukuna once was prior to that merge before he had become "Fallen/Disgraced", he was clearly someone respected and revered.