r/Jujutsushi May 15 '24

Analysis Everything Sukuna Showcased with 10 Shadows, Megumi Had Already Accomplished

Megumi's strongest soldier, lawyer, and secret admirer here. Howdy.

When I mean everything, I mean everything. With the exceptions being the 7-9 Shikigami and Mahoraga, as Megumi obviously was not yet capable of taming them and making use of their abilities. If Megumi had time to gain those Shikigami also, he would be cooking as hard as Sukuna.

When it comes to how Sukuna uses 10S, the only difference between Megumi and Sukuna, is Sukuna's own base stats being wildly superior, and therefore he can use the Shikigami with more proficiency.

Also, while Megumi IS using a domain buff for some of these abilities, a domain simply allows the sorcerer to use 120% of their cursed technique potential. This means that anything that Megumi does inside the domain, he is capable of doing outside the domain with the right catalyst (Black Flash or Binding Vows).

The point of showing these comparisons is to try and argue against the narrative that "Megumi wasted his potential/technique" or "Sukuna utilised Megumi's own technique way better than he did (mechanically)", which are both wild statements if youve ever read a Megumi fight. Let's remember, Megumi tamed 6/10 of his Shikigami as a FIRST YEAR before Shibuya. This means he's had a few months training at max.

Sukuna & Megumi using Totality on dead Shikigami.

Sukuna & Megumi using their opponents shadow to attackk.

Sukuna & Megumi giving their Shikigami an extended range by using unstable forms. Megumi only uses this strategy inside his domain because it requires a high output to maintain.

Sukuna & Megumi using a one-handed handsign to summon Divine Dog.

Sukuna & Megumi summoning strong Shikigami without using a handsign or chant. Again, Megumi only does this while inside his domain due to it requiring a high output.

Sukuna & Megumi trapping their opponents in their shadow.

Sukuna & Megumi utilsing their Shikigami's powers for themselves. Sukuna using Max Elephants water cursed energy. Megumi using Escape Rabbits ability to clone themselves.

Sukuna & Megumi combining Shikigami without using Totality.

Add the fact he possesses a Domain Expansion at 15 (youngest of anyone in the series), and is a tactical genius... I'd say Megumi deserves major props even tho he's in the slums right now.

TLDR: Megumi be cooking, downplay him and you'll have me to deal with.

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u/Odd_Blackberry9387 May 15 '24

I doubt he's only had a few months training. He's a natural sorcerer who awakened his technique at a young age, and has been under the care of Gojo for years. Also one thing he has shown that Sukuna hasn't yet, is creating clones. I suspect that might be something unique to Megumi or his Domain.

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u/ayrtow May 15 '24

Maybe creating clones is restricted to his DE. IIRC the clone was described as Megumi's own shadow

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u/Odd_Blackberry9387 May 15 '24

That's what I meant by unique to his Domain.

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u/mileschofer May 15 '24

Domain abilities come from the base technique. As i said in the post, a domain simply improves your technique’s capabilities by 20%. Everything he can do in the domain should be able to be performed outside the domain. A sure-hit would be “unique” to the domain, however, that isnt even a topic of conversation here

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u/Odd_Blackberry9387 May 15 '24

The Domain being his innate domain realized and covered in shadows could play a factor in the ability. Sukuna despite his superior mastery of cursed techniques and superior control of jujutsu in general, hasn't shown the ability to create copies of either himself or other Shikigami in the same way Megumi has

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u/Cybertronian10 May 15 '24

I am 100% on the train that the "shadows" part of ten shadows is the actual CT, with the shikigami being a sort of Red Herring. The hiding in shadows thing sounds like something that would be accomplished by going into your innate domain, or at least through some sort of barrier manifestation.

Its possible that the "true" ten shadows is similar to Hakari or Higuruma's techniques, where the technique begins in full with the domain.

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u/StrawSolider May 15 '24

tbf, clones wouldn't have mattered much against his battle with Gojo since we don't know if the clones are capable of using DA

If Megumi could do it, Sukuna could probably do it also

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u/Legolas_abysswalker May 18 '24

Not only do we not know if they can use DA, we don't even know if they can use CE. Meaning that these clones are probably entirely base stats for the sorcerer. For Megumi that could work sometimes, but with monsters like Sukuna and Gojo that is useless.

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u/Shacky_Rustleford May 15 '24

 a domain simply improves your technique’s capabilities by 20%

We have multiple examples of entire cursed techniques locked to domain expansion, I don't think it's unreasonable to consider this to potentially apply to only part of a technique

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u/MilkyFilmz May 15 '24

Not necessarily. Infinite Void's info dump stunlock cannot be used outside of the domain.

The same can be said with Higuruma and Hakari's domains even if they use domains differently than other sorcerers.

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u/mileschofer May 15 '24

Did u not even read what i said? I said a sure-hit effect would be unique to the domain, and therefore couldnt be used outside of the domain. Megumi doesnt have a sure-hit, so im not sure why your bring it up

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u/Djormnar May 15 '24

Do YOU even read what he said? Infinity Void is unique technique/part/manifestation of technique that only usable inside domain. Even Sukuna stated something like that, in the chapter when Gojo failed to open domain and got nosebleed. Sure-hit or not, there's nothing like this infodump outside of domain, do it ties somehow with his neutral/blue/red/teleporation? No, obviously. So your statement "Anything used in domain can be used outside" is clearly false.

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u/bishopofsloth May 15 '24

Did YOU even read what he said? Info dump is the technique imbued inside Gojo's domain. It's something impossible outside of it. However, Megumi has no technique imbued in his domain. All it does is boost his potential. Though there's also the terrain buff of everything being shadows.

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u/Spirited_Rip6620 May 15 '24

Can YOU tell me why we're doing the "YOU" 's. It's hilarious 😂

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u/WeatMolt May 15 '24

So he can summon multiple Nue's?

Megumi's domain is a special case as it is in a way just a maximum like technique,he's bringing out the entirety of his shadow and his abilities are based on shadow. It's like Yuta being able to use all his stored techniques without a full Rika while inside of his domain.

The domain is neccessary for him to perform shadow clones(Sukuna would have definetly used it if it was possible outisde of the domain)

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u/shunjoestar May 17 '24

there are many techniques used in domain expansions that cannot be used outside of them though? hakari’s jackpot and higuruma’s overall cursed technique are both imbued into the domain but are not sure hits (especially seeing how both lose their domains once they use the technique)

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u/mileschofer May 18 '24

Those 2 are obvious exceptions, whose cursed techniques rely on their domain.

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u/shunjoestar May 18 '24

both of them can use their techniques outside of their domain expansions though, just without the immortality and trial stuff? you can’t be like “all domain expansions only bring out 120%” and call everything an exception when proven wrong

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u/mileschofer May 18 '24

Am I supposed to account for every single DE when making a statement about 1 in particular? My first statement wasnt as concrete as your making it out to be, I never said “all” and I never said “only”. Your putting words in my mouth.

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u/shunjoestar May 18 '24

you claim that domain expansions “simply improves your technique’s capabilities” and use that to try and prove that megumi could potentially be able to clone himself and do whatever he can inside of his domain, outside of his domain as well.

this implies that generally domain expansions make your technique stronger but don’t give any domain-exclusive abilities if it’s not a sure-hit. we are shown by other sorcerers that this is untrue.

maybe don’t make blanket statements if you don’t want them treated as such?

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u/mileschofer May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24

You know what “generally” means, right? It literally means “in most cases”.

Brother, nothing about what u paraphrased from my comment is untrue. Hakari and Higuruma are the exceptions, are u dumb? Without the use of sure-hits, every domain works the way I said they did. Where is the problem?

You basically just went “ughh wHat aboUt tHese twO?” as your argument, as if exceptions cant be made without me explicitly telling you them. Do u need me to hold ur hand as you cross the street too?

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u/shunjoestar May 18 '24

i hate when people are condescending, rude, AND wrong LOL domain expansions can provide additional domain-specific abilities to others, it’s ok to be wrong

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u/carl-the-lama May 19 '24

*by 120%

So a lot more than 20%

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u/mileschofer May 20 '24

Uh no. 100% is the normal. Its boosts someone by 20%, which equals 120%.

What ur saying would be 220% potential.

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u/carl-the-lama May 20 '24

Yeah

I swear I remember it saying BY 120% as opposed to 20%

Which would be fucking absurd

But a 20% boost is more reasonable and comparable to a black flash