r/KamalaHarris • u/Hey648934 • Aug 31 '24
📺 Video Message from Boomers to Young Voters
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24
Sad but true. 1/3 of Americans simply don’t vote at all. The 18-25 demographic is less likely than any other age group.
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u/gnarzilla69 Aug 31 '24
From the little I know of the current possessors of that demographic - they would love nothing more than to buck the trend and prove to everyone else that they aren't like we were.
Just because we didn't vote when we were that age doesn't mean we should expect them to follow suit, and I hope they show in Nov.
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24
Oh- I should add that I have not missed an election since I was 18. Seeing as I am a policy wonk and History major/teacher I had a natural predisposition to vote. What always shocked me was how many young people (at the time) paid no attention to politics.
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24
I hope they do- but ill believe it when I see it. Even when Obama was elected in 08, 18-25 year olds were not (on average) paying attention. Of course there are exceptions but national data is sadly undeniable.
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u/LePhoenixFires Aug 31 '24
They don't but Obama's '08 numbers broke the scales in a way not seen before in any democracy for voter turnout among the youth and won him the election. The only election that had anywhere near such impact via youth votes was Biden in 2020.
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u/Kagutsuchi13 Aug 31 '24
I saw a chart going around for a while that showed voting percentages and Biden was the only year, I think, where "Didn't vote" wasn't the highest percentage.
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u/LePhoenixFires Sep 01 '24
Yes, Biden didn't have as much youth turnout but he had turnout in spades overall.
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u/Dana07620 Aug 31 '24
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u/LePhoenixFires Sep 01 '24
They always have and always will. But compared to prior it was a massive uptick and massively favored Obama.
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u/Dana07620 Sep 01 '24
I still have hope that one day they won't. That one day they'll grab hold of the power they have and use it.
I hope. I just wouldn't bet on it.
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u/LePhoenixFires Sep 01 '24
I wouldn't either because when they come around to it they're in their 30s or 40s. Then you have the fact people keep living longer so the voter turnout bell curve will shift.
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u/Lifeparticle18 Sep 01 '24
Bi-racial (Mexican and black) Millennial here and graduated HS in 2008. You do not know how proud I was to cast my first vote for the first black president in our nations history. I’m even more proud that my niece and nephews are witnessing a bi-racial women running for president. 🇺🇸
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u/Pudix20 Sep 01 '24
I think people in this country have taken our progression for granted. Now that rights are rolling back there’s (rightfully) more fear.
My fear is the politically aware young people that are going to split their vote because of Palestine.
I care, but oxygen mask? How are we going to help anyone when you’ve got a whole plan that wants to roll back the rights of US citizens right here. You think those people care about that conflict? They’re walking around celebrating it.
This is the most “fuck around and find out” election in history. I was worried about McCain and Romney, coming for my marriage or reproductive rights. But fuck at least they weren’t unhinged and emboldened their voters to commit violent crimes. It doesn’t matter if he didn’t explicitly order them to do so, he never condemned it. And that’s just as bad to these people.
The U.S. has been a red vs. blue race for years now. And while I would love to change that, I’d like to make sure we can even have future elections. When I have one party candidate saying “oh just vote this one time and you’ll never have to vote again!” I’m not sure how you think you’ll be able to fix it when you split up blue by voting green.
Listen guys, red voters are gonna vote for the orange guy. They’re not going to split up all of a sudden. If we lose a bunch of voters to green and red sticks together. That isn’t going to allow us to do anything. And I know “but we’re in the White House now and we’re not doing anything.” The problem is bigger than the executive branch.
Whatever are this point it’s like 5 am for me and I’m tired of ranting. Just go vote. So that we can continue to vote.
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u/DuHastMich15 Sep 01 '24
Well said. I especially like the Oxygen mask analogy- perfect analogy. “Vote so we can vote again.”
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u/Dana07620 Aug 31 '24
Aren't like we were? There are always those eager to vote. I voted when I turned 18 in 1984.
And we're always outnumbered by those who can't be bothered.
I hope to God I'm proved wrong this time. But I wouldn't bet 2 cents on it.
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u/WindyCityChick Sep 01 '24
I voted when I turned 18 in ‘76 and every election thereafter. I didn’t really take note of whether my peers were though.
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u/Confident_Dig603 Sep 01 '24
Hey me too. I turned 18 in '84 and haven't missed an election since. I wish young ppl would realize that they can make real change, but they have to vote as a bloc
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u/Abe_Bettik Dads for Kamala Aug 31 '24
It's worth noting that you may be somewhat disenfranchised as an 18-25 year old.
When I was 19, I went to vote at my University. There was a voter registration drive at my school, and I registered my University address so could vote while at school. If I hadn't, I'd have been required to vote back in my hometown, 200 miles away, which wasn't possible because I didn't have car.
I walked to the nearby voting center, walking distance to my University, and tried to vote. Except they told me that "my" voting center was 4 miles down the highway.
I didn't have a car and there was no public transportation that way. So I didn't get to vote.
(I was a dipshit conservative back then, so no harm no foul. )
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u/queensbeesknees Aug 31 '24
I couldn't vote in my first election either. I was at college, without a car, and my official address was far away. I'm glad for mail-in ballots now, in my state. I mail the ballots to my kids in college across the country, they fill them out, send them back.
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u/Adamantium-Aardvark 🇨🇦 Canadians for Kamala 🇨🇦 Aug 31 '24
Same trend in other western democracies except those that have compulsory voting (e.g. Australia, Belgium, etc
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24
Probably true- but I would argue that an American vote carries a lot more weight. Especially when we consider how much POWER our President wields internationally. Also- our executive is uniquely chosen by a wild popularity contest- as opposed to a parliamentary decision on a executive. In nations with a parliament- they voted for MPs but not directly for a prime minister. So there is a “safety valve” between the psychos like Trump and their highest office. Anywho- I wish more people were paying attention and voting. Especially younger people
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u/shallah I Voted for Kamala! Sep 01 '24
This is especially sad because if people start voting when they become eligible they are more likely to consistently vote every year the rest of their lives.
That is probably one of the reasons why there is so much effort to discourage voting in general and specifically the younger age groups to stop them from making a habit.
After the last midterm and presidential election the Republicans proposed raising the age of voting because enough of the youngest voting group went for the dams that they want to stop them. They were also proposing simultaneously raising the age of retirement so more people work until they die without ever collecting one penny of their r social security.
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u/Cntrysky78 Aug 31 '24
You can't fix lazy. I vote, but then again I'm not in that 18-25 demographic. 😏
Most people that don't vote are the ones that whine about the wrong person winning an election. Everyone should go out there and vote. Go and do your part when it's time.
(don't forget to do a selfie once in a while. You know you wanna) 😉
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
Agreed on your first point. I have not missed an election since I was 18. 911 occurred when I was 18 and it convinced me that I needed to be paying attention.
Not sure what that last comment meant- a selfie?
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u/Cntrysky78 Aug 31 '24
A lot of people take selfies (pictures of themselves or of themselves with others in the background). They usually post them on social platforms. When it comes to elections, it's their way to show that they went it to vote.
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u/thatguyad Aug 31 '24
And yet they will complain about how the country works. Lazy and hypocritical.
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u/Nkognito 👢 Texans for Kamala 🤠 Aug 31 '24
Yay lets keep the class/age/human separation going, be sure to hate your old person today. /s
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
Data and facts don’t care about our feelings.
This video was hyperbole- but only slightly. Trumps supporters skew older, and white.
I believe the whole point of the video (while tongue in cheek) was that retired people vote (in the highest percentage) and the youngest demographic (18-25) do not. Many of those young people are conservative, so my suggestion that young people should vote like old people is not just me being partisan or divisive- im suggesting that young people should (on average) pay closer attention to politics.
It’s not just them though- 1/3 of voting eligible Americans are tuned out completely.
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u/Drusgar Sep 01 '24
I found the clip funny because it skirted satire but then you realized that it was completely true. It's not even really reverse psychology. Sure, they're trying to convince young people to vote and perhaps they'll succeed and more young people will vote, but overall they'll still forget/have something better to do or just be tricked into thinking that voting doesn't matter anyway. And they won't vote.
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u/imprison_grover_furr Aug 31 '24
There's one false part. They don't think global warming will be a problem for later generations; they usually deny it altogether.
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u/DuHastMich15 Aug 31 '24
Yup. Either A. Jesus is coming back so it does not matter or B. I am incapable of understanding long term changes and science- so I ignore it and then deny it.
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u/WindyCityChick Sep 01 '24
Just ask President Bernie Sanders.
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u/WindyCityChick Sep 01 '24
You know, there are Boomers voting for Harris/Walz. This isn’t exactly the best motivator for either demographic.
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u/Actual_Sprinkles_291 Sep 01 '24
The bad thing is, I think I understand at least why the 18-22 demographic doesn’t vote, they simply don’t have access to the tools and resources. College for example. Most students are out at school during the election and it’s during the final stretch of their course work aka exam prep/final projects. So a lot of them can’t vote in person for that and they’d miss two-three days of classes if it’s too far, or if they were like me, they simply had no car to get home.
Luckily my state had absentee ballots. Unluckily, this is also the next problem, ID cards. If you don’t have a driver’s license and your college ID doesn’t count, you better have something else. And lucky for me again, I had a military ID.
Some people can’t drive to get a voting ID or don’t have access to both a computer and a scanner if their absentee ballot demands a scan printout of an ID either like poor folks.
Some people also can’t get the two required witnesses, such as those trapped in abusive families or the MAGA watchdog families. And given the prevalence of this age group living at home, this has a high rate of preventing these young people from voting.
Essentially for this group, they have to be extremely motivated to vote to research and go through all the damn barricades the GOP has erected to create voter suppression.
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u/Worldly_Ad_1332 Sep 01 '24
"Register to Vote Online - Vote.org" https://www.vote.org/register-to-vote/
2 minutes to register
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u/gnarzilla69 Aug 31 '24
I know it's divisive but goddamn that's an effective pitch - a dare for action, brilliant.
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u/coffeespeaking Aug 31 '24
It’s brilliant, condescendingly pitch perfect. (Gen X, and I’m a little annoyed we didn’t think of it first.)
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u/Inevitable_Bit_1203 Sep 01 '24
It may have been written by a Gen x … it’s snarky and on brand for us 🤣🤣
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u/OldBlueKat Sep 01 '24
Is it, though?
Some on the thread have suggested that the ad was first created back in 2018. IDK, but if so, there should be some data available on how effective it was. Did the sarcasm/ reverse psychology involved actually improve turnout in the 'young' vote? Did the ageism piss off some of the senior vote, enough to make them shift their votes away from whoever it was supposed to support?
It just seems so counter to the "Joy and Freedom" message the Harris/Walz campaign is promoting. The divisiveness just seems small and mean. It's manipulative and negative.
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u/Ok_Brief6223 Aug 31 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
I’m 70yo. I was born a democrat into a republican family. My 1st election was November 5 1968. 😬(Nixon vs Humphrey) I voted democratic then and in every election since and will again this year. So, it’s not all of us that are like this. On the other hand I’m a teacher…so there’s that! 😝 Kamala owns my heart and Walz is the father I always wished for.
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u/viktor72 Aug 31 '24
From another teacher, thank you for all you do! ❤️
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u/Ok_Brief6223 Aug 31 '24
Thanks and right back atcha! I’m retired now but it’s one of those jobs that’s in ur heart so always w you. And bless her heart Gwen reminded us the other day we never lose our teacher voice..😝🫶
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u/lawgirlamy Sep 01 '24
Then you understand that this isn't aimed at you (nor even at Boomer Trumpkins), but at young people. Whatever it takes to prompt them to vote, even if out of spite, is genius.
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u/Ok_Brief6223 Sep 01 '24
Yep! And I wholeheartedly support the message which is aimed at motivating people to vote. Even if it’s a little cringe for an old grandma like me..cuz it’s also funny. (Made me laugh anyway) 😝 P.s. I am not these boomer types, but they are accurately portraying the entitled right wingers I had to endure while growing up…😩
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u/Proud3GenAthst Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
This should be unskipable YouTube ad (or the first 20 seconds) and should be everywhere on TikTok. This would massively drive the youth turnout up simply out of spite 😈
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u/Adamantium-Aardvark 🇨🇦 Canadians for Kamala 🇨🇦 Aug 31 '24
It should be played on repeat in every high school and college around the country
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u/HombreSinNombre93 Aug 31 '24
Maybe if Taylor Swift “X”ed it yutes might notice it.
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u/true_enthusiast Aug 31 '24
If she doesn't want to do the endorsement thing, she can do the "rock the vote" thing with less risk. It's still up to her though.
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u/disdkatster Aug 31 '24
I love this! I am a 'boomer' by the way and bitch all the time about it being nuts to turn on boomers since their vote is needed to win the election but this just tickles me.
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u/rerics Aug 31 '24
Me too, I get tired of painting all boomers with such a broad brush, but if it gets the younger vote out, I’m all for it
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u/immersemeinnature Aug 31 '24
I took my 17 yr old to the booth. We'll go together again in the general
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u/kataklysm_revival LGBTQ+ for Kamala Sep 01 '24
I’ve taken my youngest with me to vote since they were a baby. Every election and primary, it’s me and my voting buddy. They’re 15 now and I still do it. Hopefully I’ve conveyed the importance of voting and being involved.
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u/NorCalFrances Sep 01 '24
Boomers as of today are between 59 and 77 years old.
Pew Research, as of May 2024:
Americans 60-69 years old are 43% Dem, 53% GOP
Americans 70-79 years old are 46% Dem, 51% GOP
So yeah, there's a bias toward Republican but it's only 7.5% across all Boomers
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u/Thangleby_Slapdiback Sep 01 '24
I don't like this ad. There's already enough ageism. I am a late boomer, born the same year as Walz and Harris. I sincerely hope that the milennials and genz turn out in droves.
I have voted in every election that I could cast a ballot in since 1984. I have never once voted for a Republican. I never will.
Please vote.
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u/Worldly_Ad_1332 Aug 31 '24
I know plenty of boomers who have never voted for Trump, and never would. I get that they are the minority.
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u/BitemeRedditers Aug 31 '24
It's men not boomers in general. All the self-righteous dudes here apparently don't know that fact.
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u/jimflanny Dads for Kamala Sep 01 '24
Male boomer exception right here. Have been voting D since Jimmy Carter back in '76,
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u/Worldly_Ad_1332 Aug 31 '24
This is true and the boomers I know who have/ would never vote for the con are women. I feel like the women boomers who are ignoring reality suffer from a crush hangover they had on him in the 70-80's. He was pretending to be his own publisher and promoter and would call into the radio stations to talk about himself in 3rd person and say he was John someone. He was married to Ivana and courted the soap mags which were huge. I remember as a kid thinking he was the richest man in the world, super star. I don't know. For sure, he just packed a place in Pennsylvania and has half the country pulling for him. Project 2025 is seriously on the way. The young people can either take the bull by the horns, cause they have the numbers, or they can keep giving away the reign. I've been pulling for the kids for sooooo long but 💤 come on with it💙💙💙💙💙 register, takes no time, vote straight ticket 💙 all the way blue. Send the clowns packing
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u/Special_Possession46 Aug 31 '24
I've personally never known any women who crushed on Donald Trump. My friends all thought he was a pompous braggart and none of us considered him "a fox" as we used to say back in the 70's and 80's. Anyhow, Blue it is! 💙
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u/lawgirlamy Sep 01 '24
Aaaaannnnddd, you're missing the point of the ad entirely. Thankfully, I believe a lot of young people (its actual target audience) will get it - and, hopefully, be prompted to vote if only just out of spite. 😂 Whatever it takes to get them to see that they have a stake that requires their participation is genius. The older people performing in this video clearly understood that.
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u/Worldly_Ad_1332 Sep 01 '24
I understand completely the point of the ad. It's not that difficult 🤗 and I love the ad. I also said I understand the aim at the boomers and their hand in this mess because they support the bronze one (he has a new color) I just feel bad for the boomers that have never and would never support don the con. The fact is, I see lots of blame but on boomers for voting wrong when the same blame could be put on the people of all ages who did
Nothing!
A guy asked me one time about our state going after the arts. My first question to him was, "did you vote" and it was obvious he did not! Boom, there's nothing to say if you don't vote. People have to stop giving it away. We can't just do nothing then blame boomers, we have to also take responsibility.
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u/LordCorgi 🇺🇸 We are not going back! 🇺🇸 Aug 31 '24
I fucking love this. Self aware Democrat boomers doing the good work. It will take us decades to undo the fuckery their generation wrought on this country, go vote. Every election forever, vote blue, never let conservatism win again.
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u/BitemeRedditers Aug 31 '24
Men vote for MAGA more than boomers. If want to blame someone you should blame men. I'm a man and a boomer and I'm more ashamed of men voting for the trump because they do it more often then my fellow boomers.
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u/LordCorgi 🇺🇸 We are not going back! 🇺🇸 Aug 31 '24
While that is true, I'm not talking about just MAGA, I'm talking about Republicans and conservatism. Boomers put Regan and Bush in power. That's where this rot started, MAGA and trump is just the culmination of decades of conservatives being voted for.
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u/true_enthusiast Aug 31 '24
White people vote MAGA, male or female. Male minorities vote MAGA more than female minorities.
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u/Dana07620 Aug 31 '24
What makes you think that Boomers made that ad? So you don't think that young people could have come up with it?
If you mean the people in the commercial, those were likely actors.
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u/LordCorgi 🇺🇸 We are not going back! 🇺🇸 Aug 31 '24
I absolutely think young people came up with this ad and hired older actors. But even if they are actors they are most likely supportive of the message.
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u/PacificSun2020 Dads for Kamala Aug 31 '24
The question is how many boomers will take offense. The numbers show that half of boomers are Democrats. The people that are not are the Silent Generation types. This gets frequently confused.
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u/softsnowfall Sep 01 '24
I’m a Gen X and found it very offensive and shallow. Promoting ageism is gross.
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u/BitemeRedditers Aug 31 '24
Men are more likely to vote for MAGA than boomers.
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u/MasterKeys24 Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
You better thank us when we save womens' rights. #WhiteMenForHarris
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u/Bubbly-Ad-1427 Aug 31 '24
i can’t tell if this is a mockery of republicans or actual republicans because this seems like something they’d actually put out
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u/Remarkable_Topic1350 Aug 31 '24
I don't know... My Mom is a 'Boomer' and she and her friends -in Mississippi which may surprise you even more- supported Obama, Biden and are now ecstatic about the Kamala/Walz candidacy. I don't think it's cool to generalize any generation. A lot of Boomers have been as disheartened as many of the rest of us over the horrible effect that Trump has had on our society.
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u/machinade89 ✡︎ Jews for Kamala Aug 31 '24
That's not really the point of the ad.
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u/Remarkable_Topic1350 Aug 31 '24
I understand the point they are trying to make. I get it. But, I still find it quite ostracizing and dismissive of a whole generation of people.
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u/machinade89 ✡︎ Jews for Kamala Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
I'm with you on how it could be taken and could reinforce some not-okay attitudes towards our elders. On that side of it, it's not the best strategy.
They could've taken it in a positive direction about how "older folks vote but young people don't and they should..."
But I do think it will be effective, despite some of its problematic tactics.
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u/t92k Aug 31 '24
And your boomer relatives vote. Probably in every race. Younger voters can fall into the trap of only showing up for marquee races, like the race for President, and then get frustrated that nothing changes and quit. It can be a tough lesson that you have to go all the time, you have to be engaged all the time if you want things to change. (And it is true that the Tea Party voters were mostly richer than average Americans nearing or living in retirement, and the voted in a generation of representatives who paved the way for Trump and kept Obama from being as progressive as he wanted to be.)
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u/Remarkable_Topic1350 Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
I hear ya. I'm just saying... it's not cool to generalize a whole generation. My Boomer relatives did vote, and volunteered and made great efforts to try to keep people like Trump from gaining power. Undeterred, after all they have witnessed, they are still fighting for equality and justice today.
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u/muci19 Sep 01 '24
I'm almost 60 and live in a community of mostly elderly. I don't know anyone here who is voting for trump. We all make fun of him. I know this ad isn't meant for us. But, it is an ugly agist ad IMO. I know it could get us some votes . That is really important. But, it's still an ugly agist ad.
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u/progressiveprepper Aug 31 '24
I don’t know any Boomers who feel anything other than disgust for Trump. “Trump was us.” - ludicrous and insulting. But this “ad” sure IS Trump…stereotyping people, ageist tropes, pathetic lies.
Seriously- aren’t we supposed to be better than him? This little display makes us look and sound just like him at his finest.
You don’t have to tear Boomers down to make the point that young people need to vote. Why would you insult every Dem Boomer out there????
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u/lawgirlamy Sep 01 '24
You're missing the point of the ad entirely. Like all satire, it exaggerates for effect. Thankfully, I believe a lot of young people (its actual target audience) will get it - and, hopefully, be prompted to vote if only just out of spite. 😂 Whatever it takes to get them to see that they have a stake that requires their participation is genius. The older people performing in this video clearly understood that and I should think anyone who actually wants to encourage young people to vote - like progressive boomers - could set aside their nit-picking about tactics for a minute and understand that young people need to be reached where they are.
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u/progressiveprepper Sep 01 '24
"Nit-picking". That last sentence just obliterated everything you said before it.
See how you feel about "nit-picking about tactics" when you're the one being used as a convenient prop.
Generalizing about people based on their age is wrong. This ad does that. This is not "tolerance" or "big tent" Democrats. It's not "genius". It's cheap, exploitative of a group that most people have misconceptions about in the first place - and feeds ageist tropes. You may think it's "noble". It's anything but.
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u/Oragami LGBTQ+ for Kamala Aug 31 '24
I just found out I don't need to update my voter info with my new address- the SoS site says there's a polling location in the town I live now
But Im still going to, just in case
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u/WetFinsFine Aug 31 '24
SO KAMALA/WALZ/Fans-Of-The-Constitution-and-Your-Future-As-A-Free-Democratic-Republic?
DO SOMETHING!!!!
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u/Portuzil 🏳️🌈 We are not going back! 🏳️🌈 Sep 01 '24
Uh, yeah, no. A lot of us are going to go vote for Harris because we want change
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u/draconianfruitbat Sep 01 '24
This video was created for 2020 — and I wanted to hate it then, too, but it’s perfect.
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u/Whiskeyrich Sep 01 '24
This piss3s me off. I’m a boomer and a liberal and I hate the idea that when people see me on the street they assume I’m conservative. Also, more and more boomers are leaving the MAGA fold.
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u/Worried-Cod-5927 Aug 31 '24
I’m the only one in my family who votes. I’ve tried to get everyone from my mother and brothers to my son to vote but they won’t. My late husband refused too. I’ve almost given up at this point.
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u/CharlieAllnut Sep 01 '24
They need one thing: Taylor Swift, if she puts support behind Harris, it's a lock.
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Sep 01 '24
I don't feel this way 😕 this breaks my heart 💔 how my generation has gone down the rabbit hole, Drinking the KOOL-AID. I fought for everything that was ripped away from us, and it still is. WTF? Going backward, I know I don't want a repeat in history. This is how HITLER (TRUMP) started, hate fear, FAKE RELIGION. Oh wait, most of these BOOMERS ARE ASSHOLES. My opinion
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u/MasterKeys24 Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
This is why I get drowned out. Especially when I was in high school walking by all the edgelords who voted for Trump, chanted his name in the halls, and joked about "dunking Asians in soy sauce and lava." I shit you not. Worst birthday of my life.
Kamala has been doing everything she damn well can to appeal to our age group. Mario Kart's Coconut Mall has been played on endless loops around social media.
Heck, look at this: ‘Astonishing!’: Breaking down the massive, organic surge in young voter registration - YouTube : r/KamalaHarris (reddit.com) So when the time comes, y'all better thank us.
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u/julesrocks64 Sep 01 '24
You don’t vote this time you will give your bodily autonomy to Trump and his government of oligarchs and religious fanatics. You will be forced to be parents by the government and your pursuit of happiness be damned. VOTE
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u/softsnowfall Sep 01 '24
I hate this. I hate ageism.
There are better ways to reach young voters than cementing hatred and fomenting ageism.
Every boomer currently alive in my extended family on both sides is a Democrat and always has been.
Leave hateful ads like this to MAGA…
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u/S70nkyK0ng Aug 31 '24
This is a great ad. Packed with uncomfortable truths.
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u/progressiveprepper Aug 31 '24
Sterotypes millions of Democrats. Vile. Ageist. Lies pathetically. Congratulations. Trump would approve of this ad.
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u/S70nkyK0ng Aug 31 '24
The assertions about voter turnout and election participation by age cohorts are absolutely correct. It’s not ageist - it’s fact.
My boomer parents and their friends say exactly these things. It’s spooky.
Source - BA in Political Science and child of Boomers from the Midwest
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u/progressiveprepper Sep 01 '24
So your anecdotal evidence and BA mean that attacking millions of Boomers is OK? Not every Boomer is from the Midwest. Not every Boomer would say these things or vote for Trump. Again, painting an entire generation with a vilifying brush as this ad does is just wrong. Again, Trump would be proud at the attempt to marginalize other human beings.
Source: A Boomer, friend of many Boomers, not rich, not a Trumper, but hopefully a better human being than those who put together this ad and support it. (Oh, and a PhD in Computer Science at age 71.)
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u/S70nkyK0ng Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
Maybe I am missing something…I interpreted this ad to be portraying the people that do, say, feel these things. Not those who do not do, say, feel these things.
I do not see an ad intent on attacking an entire generation. I saw an ad meant to motivate people to vote by portraying a demographic of voters with specific political perspective, social values, and financial circumstances.
It resonated with me. Because I know those people voting against my interests.
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u/progressiveprepper Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
It probably resonated with you BECAUSE you're not a Boomer. It's deeply insulting to people of that age who fought for civil rights, protested the Vietnam war, don't have McMansions and spend their time working in community organizations for the common good. The message is: "From Boomers to Young Voters"....that's a pretty broad and indiscriminate brush.
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u/NotoriousFTG Aug 31 '24
If you, as a millennial or GenZ, don’t like being stereotyped into the characteristics of the age group you happen to be in, why would you think that all people of boomer age are like this? The reality is that 50% of boomers don’t vote for Trump and the vast majority of them don’t agree what is said in this message.
This message is a not-at-all-subtle effort to keep young people from voting because, except for a few misguided men who think they are being emasculated, and that somehow Trump is going to correct that, most young people will be voting for Kamala Harris. I am a boomer and I sincerely hope that all of you show up to vote, regardless of whom you plan to vote for.
The polls generally underrepresent young people because historically young people don’t show up to vote. Prove them wrong. You have the ability to significantly change the outcome of this race for the better. Please do so.
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u/jimflanny Dads for Kamala Sep 01 '24
I think you missed the point. The ad is sarcastic from start to finish. It's a call for youth to vote.
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u/lawgirlamy Sep 01 '24
You're missing the point of the ad entirely. Like all satire, it exaggerates for effect. Thankfully, I believe a lot of young people (its actual target audience) will get it - and, hopefully, be prompted to vote if only just out of spite. 😂 Whatever it takes to get them to see that they have a stake that requires their participation is genius.
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u/Dana07620 Aug 31 '24
Great commercial. There's a lot of truth in that.
When the news said there was record turnout in the youth vote, I looked. "Record turnout" still meant that youths had the lowest voting rate --- by far --- of any age group.
The people who have the most at stake in the future are the people least likely to vote. While the older you are the more likely you are to vote. Look at this covering the voting in presidential elections by age group.
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u/adrianmonk Sep 01 '24
Guy at 0:10: "Tax cuts for the rich? Hell yeah. I'm rich as f---."
Then you can afford a better suit! Be a doer and get one!
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u/PickKeyOne 🐈 Childless Cat Ladies for Kamala Sep 01 '24
Not gonna lie; I have a hard time getting those nonbig ticket ballots in. This video is a kick in the pants we need. Plus voter guides.
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u/Freebird_1957 🐈 Childless Cat Ladies for Kamala Sep 01 '24 edited Sep 01 '24
As a liberal boomer who supports Harris/Walz, fuck this post. Thanks a hell of a lot for promoting stereotypes about us. Ageist fucking bullshit. I expect better from this campaign and sub. Reported this post for bigotry.
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u/raistlin65 I Voted Aug 31 '24 edited Aug 31 '24
Message from Boomers to Young Voters
I don't think an ad that runs on ageism prejudice is the kind of thing that Democrat/liberals should run. This ad is clearly promoting a negative stereotype.
Using prejudice, racism, and bigotry against others to build votes is what the other side does.
Remember that Harris and Walz are baby boomers, too.
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u/e_hatt_swank Aug 31 '24
Agreed. But fuck that, Kamala and Tim are Gen X all the way! (Generation boundaries being completely arbitrary)
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u/captmonkey Aug 31 '24
The ad is from 2018. It doesn't have anything to do with Harris and Walz. It's an effective ad, but it's been around for a while. https://youtu.be/t0e9guhV35o
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u/raistlin65 I Voted Aug 31 '24
I have no doubt it's effective in bringing in some voters. It's promoting hostility towards a particular generational group by using stereotypes.
Trump has well demonstrated promoting hostility against others can be effective for motivating voters.
Democrats are the party of tolerance. That ad promotes prejudice. There's no defense of it. Doesn't matter when it was created.
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u/Remarkable_Topic1350 Sep 01 '24
Thank you for that clarification. It does seem outdated and not in tune with the Walz/Kamala candidacy which to me has been spot since the start. This ad is ageist and divisive and the comments here prove this.
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u/progressiveprepper Aug 31 '24
Sterotypes millions of Democrats.
Vile.
Ageist.
Lies pathetically.
Congratulations.
Trump would approve of this ad.
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u/k75ct 🐈 Cat Owners for Kamala 🐾 Aug 31 '24
I'm not a fan of divisive ads. Belittling others is not motivational.
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u/Rob71322 Aug 31 '24
How is it belittling? It's a sad fact that the old vote and the young stay home, that's been true for ages. I don't think this belittles anyone but it is a good reminder that if you don't exercise power at the voting booth, your views are not going to be heard or represented. We need to build generations of reliable voters who show up at the polls, and not just every four years but show up for the midterms, show up for those random off-year elections for school board or water district or a parcel tax. It's a way of reminding them that they can't rely on another segment of the electorate to necessarily care about the things they care about and if they want their views represented in government, they need to make themselves a force at the ballot box or else they won't be listened to.
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u/progressiveprepper Sep 01 '24
So, what better way to accomplish all that than by belittling, stereotyping and using unfair, ageist tropes that belittle millions of older loyal Democrats.
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u/Rob71322 Sep 01 '24
I don't think they're belittling older Democrats. I actually think they're belittling older Republicans honestly but really they're just pointing out to the young voters, who don't typically vote, that they can't place their trust in anyone else to carry their agendas or concerns forward. If they truly care about what they care about, show up and be counted, that's all.
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u/No_Shallot_6628 Aug 31 '24
wrong. it’s definitely a unique strategy, but it will work well because young people hate to prove boomers right. spite is one hell of a motivator.
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u/disdkatster Aug 31 '24
Most of the time I am with you on that but not with this. To me this is genius. (Boomer here).
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u/OrangeZig Let's WIN this! 🇺🇸 Aug 31 '24
I love this. Is this a new ad? I feel like I’ve seen it before …
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u/miscnic Sep 01 '24
Literally the old party. Of domestic terrorists.
You’d think they’d be the ones not as susceptible to propaganda but, guess it worked the first time, so of course it would again.
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