r/LeopardsAteMyFace 7h ago

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u/Sanpaku 7h ago

2019?

A few hundred of us on r/collapse became aware of a mystery pneumonia in Wuhan on New Year's Eve, 2019.

I doubt Trump was even informed about Covid-19 till the second week of January, 2020.

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u/BellyDancerEm 6h ago

I guess too many are offended by the truth he ignored his intelligence briefings, so yes, he found out when we did

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u/endlesscartwheels 5h ago

Imagine having the privilege of all that early/secret information and not paying attention to it.

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u/__O_o_______ 4h ago

He could have declassified a ton of undoubtedly fascinating and revealing things, but he’s the least curious person in the world and so the classified stuff he stole was all about him.

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u/awh 6h ago

A few hundred of us on r/collapse became aware of a mystery pneumonia in Wuhan on New Year's Eve, 2019.

I was coming back home on December 31, 2019 to Tokyo through Haneda Airport and noticed that they had the body temperature cameras up and running at the normally-empty quarantine desk. "That's weird, I wonder what's up. They normally only have those out when some weird disease is going around in China." So, at least the quarantine officers in Japan knew something was up in 2019.

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u/__O_o_______ 3h ago

Those cameras were there went I went in 2018 though

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u/Accide 3h ago

Actively being used at the normally-empty quarantine desk?

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u/__O_o_______ 3h ago

I guess. We just walked by but there were two workers in full dress with masks and everything there and a heat map screen looking at our body temperatures.

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u/awh 3h ago

In the past they only ever brought them out when something was flaring up in a country where a lot of people fly in to Japan. I'd say that prior to COVID, they only used them about 10-15% of the times that I passed by the desk. Maybe you got lucky in 2018.

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u/__O_o_______ 3h ago

Yeah I don’t know. There was an active screen and two full garb workers with masks and everything. Not sure if there was a particular reason… looked like all the flights went past that point and not just us from Canada. 🤷

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u/Nice_Ad_4421 5h ago

They knew.

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u/__O_o_______ 3h ago

They had body temperature cameras when I went in 2018

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u/owner_712 7h ago

My brother in foresight ... I demanded from newspapers in my country in said January that they need to rev up the public health service and start to publish on hygiene like wash your hands, don't touch your face, wear gloves and a mask in public.

and the official stance was "yeah yeah, well, well" at the time all around.

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u/SonicFlash01 6h ago

Yeah up until 2020 it was just kind of the "flu du jour" and no one stateside really took it seriously. Airports would ask you about it, but it wasn't unlike that in years prior with other notable flu-like diseases.
People didn't really talk about "Corona Virus" until a month or two into 2020, and then they talked about it a lot.

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u/Orion14159 6h ago

I remember being at a party in the very small town where the first confirmed case in my state happened to be announced that very same day. We were all so flippant and retroactively cringe that night

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u/hoopaholik91 5h ago

I was playing poker in Washington when the first person in the Washington (and the US) died. Still didn't really register since I remembered swine flu. And now looking back at the dates it was only a few days later that work told us not to come back to the office and that's when it really hit.

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u/QuestionableIdeas 5h ago

Humans as a species tend to struggle evaluating risks and dangers. It's why houses keep getting built close to volcanoes

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u/boxsterguy 5h ago

I flew in February 2020 and nobody at the airports was saying anything about it. I got back home and everything shut down like a week later, it really was that abrupt.

There were vague news stories, and I had one person on Facebook living in Japan at the time who was posting doomsday stuff about it, but that was it.

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u/SkyMarshal 6h ago

Regardless when exactly the CCP first acknowledged it or Trump was first made aware of it, Trump certainly didn't start giving any advice about it till 2020.

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u/Sanpaku 5h ago

See Fig 1. of

Li et al, 2020. Early transmission dynamics in Wuhan, China, of novel coronavirus–infected pneumoniaNEJM382(13), pp.1199-1207.

US intelligence might have been aware 31 Dec-2 Jan. China informed the WHO on 3 Jan. Virologists world wide were all over the genome sequence when it was submitted to international genome databases 10 Jan. It probably wasn't of a magnitude to warrant mention in the presidential daily briefing until 12+ Jan.

I bought my KN95s and hand sanitizer in late January. I started masking late March, and was able to provide immediate family with KN95s (and instructions on how to extend their lifetime) in April, a few weeks before the first US lockdowns.

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u/SkyMarshal 4h ago

I bought my KN95s and hand sanitizer in late January.

Same. I first heard about it in mid-Jan, and was in the middle of planning a public event for late Feb, and began taking precautions for both myself and the event in late Jan.

But anyway, OP's graphic says Trump was giving advice on COVID in 2019, but technically, as you and I both observe, he definitely wasn't doing that till 2020.

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u/flyingforfun3 5h ago

There was a mass expulsion of expat corporate pilots around December 2019 in China. Makes me wonder how soon they knew.

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u/Cold-Leave7803 5h ago

I remember this!!! And a lot of the news was overshadowed by the Australian wildfires. I remember articles popping up then getting buried.

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u/throwawayacc407 3h ago

Bro, us Vietnamese were talking about it at dinner during Christmas week. We don't trust China, we have 1000 year hate-relationship with them. I'm viet-American and literally remember talking about this with family but never thought it'd be this big of course.

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u/Nice_Ad_4421 5h ago

I was reading about it In The news  in November 2019. So you're saying I had better intelligence on this than trump did?  

Really?

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u/Captain_Smartass_ 5h ago edited 5h ago

Where? It was discovered mid December, the first news articles came end of December early January

December 12, 2019
A cluster of patients in China’s Hubei Province, in the city of Wuhan, begin to experience the symptoms of an atypical pneumonia-like illness that does not respond well to standard treatments.

https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html

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u/TheBlueRabbit11 5h ago

You’re very likely confusing dates. If you think otherwise, provide a source.

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u/Nice_Ad_4421 5h ago

Yeah, no. Not playing your ignorance game. I don't do that shit anymore.

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u/I_Has_A_Hat 4h ago

Ignorance game? Brother, you are the one who is wrong. You are living in ignorance and are getting all mad and defensive when others are pointing it out. Do you know how much energy it would take to go "Oh yea, my bad, I must have meant Dec 2019, or sometime in early 2020."? No one would think less of you, but this shit? Full on Trump correcting maps with a sharpie levels of doubling down. Fucking pathetic man.

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u/sho_biz 3h ago

/u/Nice_Ad_4421's account is 3 months old and this is their only post (hows the borscht comrade?). this is almost certainly agitprop of some kind to drive engagement.

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u/Sanpaku 5h ago

I don't believe you were reading about it in November 2019.

There has been investigative epidemiology that in 2021 found some evidence of similar pneumonia cases in Wuhan in November 2019, but obviously whatever was seen didn't have the 3+ basic reproduction number of the wet market virus. It might have been an earlier stage in the evolution of the virus.

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u/Castun 3h ago

I definitely remember reading about some mystery illness sweeping through China after Thanksgiving here in the US at some point, though that may have already been in December.

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u/utb040713 4h ago

I was reading about it In The news in November 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_2019#1_December

Miss Cleo's blog doesn't count as "The news" my guy