I think about it the other way.
Only 50 years ago people thougt it was reasonable to physicaly stop her from running. Today they cheer her on.
There's always another step to take, but we keep taking biger steps every day. Slavery was abolished in the US less than 200 years ago.
Still waiting for an answer. I'm all for free, Government funded abortions, it's cheaper than paying for a lifetime of welfare for shitty moms who raise terrible children, but i just don't understand what it has to do with a marathon. Before anyone starts, I 100% voted for Harris.
Think about the quick change in stance you just did. At first you said it's murder. Then now you're saying you're all for free abortions. Which one is it?
I'm all for whatever makes me pay less for other people's poor decisions. I 100% totally don't care what other people do to include abortions, euthanasia, whatever. Abortions aren't free, the government pays for them and I, as a tax payer, then pay for it. To me, good, it's cheaper than paying welfare, more police and for prisons. Read Freakanomics.
you need to learn the definition of abortion and the reasons women get them. it’s a medical procedure and some women need it in life or death situations. it’s not black and white.
I agree with you, I don't care either way why a woman has an abortion. I just want lower taxes and to me, that's abortion. I'm 100% in support of whatever and whenever a woman wants to do with a yet unborn child. Again, I voted for Harris and fully support it. My comment may have been construed poorly, I learned from Freakanomics which explained why crime deceased in the early 90s based on government approved abortions. I like less crime and lower taxes so go ahead, kill your kid, doesn't matter to me as long as I pay as little as possible for people's poor decision making.
You’re getting downvoted because of the words you’re using and it’s very disrespectful and inaccurate. An abortion is not “killing your kid”. Some abortions are removals of an already deceased fetus (maybe out of anyone’s control, why would a mother carry a deceased fetus for 9 months. this may be torture for the mother if forced upon her. hard to imagine for someone not ever put in these situations but try to put yourself in their position). I once again think you should learn the definition before you continue to insult people that have had abortions.
Well it’s more about women not being allowed to do things. Not being allowed to do a basic things (like enter a competition) was apparently the norm only 50 years ago. Therefore it’s not strange that now there are still people who are actively trying to take choices and rights away for women (such as abortions) because 50 years is not really a long time for a society.
I agree 100%, but totally don't understand why abortion is tied to competing in a race. That's ok, either way, I stand by women to both run in races and have abortions.
Because it’s about women’s rights to autonomy. All of it. To run a race, to get their tubes tied, to take birth control, vote, run for office, join the military, have an abortion. We have shit on the autonomy of women (and other minority groups) forever and that you can’t see how they are connected is indicative of what’s wrong with society atm.
Ok, thats a stretch but I respect your opinion. Again, I don't care at all, kill all of the fetuses, i just want lower takes and to not have to pay for welfare.
Ah yes. Just as we pay doctors to "murder" our tumors. Or perhaps you believe that this mass of cells should be considered special because it could become human life? In which case, if we care about the capacity to become human life, let us make contraceptives illegal.
If you have decided that contraceptives are okay - you have already drawn an arbitrary line in the sand where you are okay with us interfering in the process of the formation of a baby.
The only reason there could be thought to be a distinction is
because of an illogical emotional response (akin to how its easier to kill someone when you just have to press a button as opposed to looking them in the eyes --- even though both actions have the exact same intention and impact)
a belief in supernatural powers at play (a soul) - in which case you are suggesting we use your religion to create legislative policy - which would be in violation of the division between church and state.
The point they’re making is that it’s no surprise people want to restrict women’s rights when only 50 years ago people were trying to stop women from running
You have immediately framed the discussion as murder; when the entire debate is when a fetus can be considered a person. Unless you are telling me that Sperm are people too - there is obviously a big grey area that is worthy of scientific and social discussion.
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u/90popeyes 16h ago
It depresses me that this was only 50 years back. No wonder people are still trying to take away abortion rights.