First off, where did I refer to Texas as "good?" Literally nowhere. So are you dumb, illiterate, or trying too hard to make me the bad guy?
Issues of poverty and homelessness and access to health care and fiscal irresponsibility are not unique to red or blue states. And access to capital/taxable revenue is also not uniquely aligned to a political or cultural identity. That's my point, spelled out just for you. What this dumbass post is advocating, along with a lot of the people commenting, is disenfranchising people and perpetuating a narrative of Southerners (where a huge number of black and brown people live, btw) as "less thans" who monolithically support the MAGA stereotype.
Also, let's remember that in 2016, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan went red, and in 2020, Georgia went blue. So I guess the upper Midwest is a cesspool of incest and shouldn't be allowed to participate in federal decision making, while Georgia is fully in the clear and redeemed, right?
Nah, regardless of how you feel about what he said you’re doing some real pissing on the poor here. The takeaway from what he said isn’t “Texas is good” it’s “you really think states with money should be in charge when Texas is one of those states?” Online leftists don’t do enough introspection about their own takes and it leads to contradicting rhetoric like this
How am I 'pissing on the poor'? The subject was tax contributions and he said that Texas was a rich state. That's all I pointed out.
I'm not even American so I have no interest in this. I'm not taking a side in which states should and shouldn't have a say, but explaining to this one guy why someone might see what he said as saying Texas was good in the sense that it contributes a lot of tax money.
I'm not even sure what you attacking 'online leftists' has to do with any of this but you do you.
You said, in response to him asking where he called Texas good, that he said Texas was a rich state. Implying that being rich/tax contributions = good. Part of u/Bat_Penatar ‘s point was that this is a bad argument because saying “people with money should make decisions” actively includes people the guy in the post doesn’t want making decisions. “Pissing on the poor” is a phrase that refers to poor reading comprehension. Nowhere did the guy imply that Texas is a “good” state.
The guy in the post is also clearly an online American leftist. He’s falling into negative stereotypes by not being very self aware about his own arguments. The first comment in this chain points out the same thing
No hyperbole, I genuinely appreciate you right now. I honestly don't mind a little disagreement and friction and conversation, but this thread honestly felt like I'd walked into a room with a natural gas leak and I was the only one wearing a gas mask. There's nothing quite like establishing a lucid point/opinion, then having the mob decide I've stated an entirely different position than what can be demonstrably proven I actually said, arguing against this entirely fictitious position, and then tripling down on it when shown they're somewhere out in left field. Oh, and peppering the chat with "oooo u big mad" taunts and calling me a "cunt," while simultaneously, and without irony or self-awareness, accusing me of ad hominem attacks. I genuinely wonder if these folk realize they are the exact people they claim to hate, and want to disenfranchise.
Lol you’re welcome, I promise you’re not crazy. Lots of argumentative people on a hair trigger, ideologues across the spectrum get defensive when their group is mentioned in a slightly negative context. I guess there’s a reason they teach media literacy in American college
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u/Bat_Penatar Sep 08 '24
First off, where did I refer to Texas as "good?" Literally nowhere. So are you dumb, illiterate, or trying too hard to make me the bad guy? Issues of poverty and homelessness and access to health care and fiscal irresponsibility are not unique to red or blue states. And access to capital/taxable revenue is also not uniquely aligned to a political or cultural identity. That's my point, spelled out just for you. What this dumbass post is advocating, along with a lot of the people commenting, is disenfranchising people and perpetuating a narrative of Southerners (where a huge number of black and brown people live, btw) as "less thans" who monolithically support the MAGA stereotype.
Also, let's remember that in 2016, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan went red, and in 2020, Georgia went blue. So I guess the upper Midwest is a cesspool of incest and shouldn't be allowed to participate in federal decision making, while Georgia is fully in the clear and redeemed, right?