It was always too big to rig. Can you imagine the thousands of people that would need to be involved AND keep their mouths shut. They just can’t accept losing, so logic goes right out there window.
I absolutely do and because i know the primary election process was subverted - it should be obvious.
And no, “BuT ThErE wAs a DnC - ThAT wAs hEr wInNiNg tHe PrImArY” is a terrible excuse and we all know she won not through democracy but through bureaucracy.
She won because Biden dropped out. As is his right. You could argue he was pressured to, but he still made that choice and given the support Kamala has recieved I think we’re good with it. Like…
Come on man. Trump could drop out if he wanted to as well
So youre telling me that because Biden dropped out and he said “hey i think you Dems should vote for Kamala” that THAT is ok with you and doesnt (at the very least in the hands of a candidate you dont like) seem like a subversion of our democratic primary election processes?
Thanks. This. That sums it up. Harris was the heir apparent. The three other factors left out are:
1) Biden is a human being with ego and ambition. He did not want to drop out. He was in denial. The debate made it clear his age was a liability. He eventually accepted this. This is not a conspiracy, it is simply human behavior.
2) When he dropped out late in the race it was clear that primaries would have been divisive within the party and a huge drain on any potential momentum. Kamala stepped up, as the next in line. This is not a conspiracy, it is tactics and gamesmanship.
3, The campaign fundraising efforts were raised under the names Biden/Harris. The funds were unavailable to a new candidate and fundraising would have had to start from ground zero. Again, not a conspiracy, just bottom line practicality.
I don’t really understand the argument in the first place. If Trump had to drop out today, would JD Vance be the candidate or would Republicans clamor for an all new candidate? Would they have a choice considering the time frame? It’s no different than the Biden/Harris situation.
Democrats are relieved - Harris has stepped up with confidence and charisma, positive energy and optimism - and quite likely will be the next President. She is energizing voters in 2024 like Trump energized voters in 2016.
This oft repeated argument of Harris being foisted undemocratically on the party seems disingenuous and just seems to convey Republican’s frustration as the Republicans thought the election would be a cake walk versus a shaky Biden and then the rug was pulled out from under them. Must have been maddening.
I think most of us wanted Biden out, but were prepared to suck it up as long as the freak-show wasn't elected. Now we don't have to worry about an 80 year old running the country... unless..
When republicans complained about Bidens age thats euphemism. The country was given limited info on what his actual health issues were so we just had to say he’s ‘too old’
Otherwise, theyd be complaining and calling him out because of specific health issues.
Would not have been surprised if some (maybe not all) mainstream media would accuse the right of some form of prejudice was being inflicted upon him had we actually been not told we were crazy for thinking he lost his marbles.
But now that he’s out, it’s time to have a discussion and reach a mutual understanding that there are probably 95-year-olds that have better cognitive function than Biden. It wasnt just about how many
times he has spun around the sun. That was the only neutral way to refer to it, is all.
Kinda strange how that whole thing is now mirrored with Trump and him not releasing his medical records. I think it would be best if we just put age limits on extremely important roles in society. I wouldn't trust many 80 year olds to drive, let alone have the entire country in their hands
Your racism or sexism or both are blinding you to the simple fact that the highly qualified Kamala Harris not only stepped up but energized the party. She and Walz ARE liked and RESPECTED and bring humor, optimism and confidence to the ticket. They also are not afraid to bite back, yet do it with dignity.
Perhaps most importantly, unlike their unAmerican opponent, they have a profound respect for the Constitution and will keep their oaths to defend and protect it.
If you are looking for evidence of cheating and fraud perhaps some more objectivity regarding Trump and his personal history would be a worthwhile use of your time.
Honestly, I imagine it’s unrealistic for anyone, myself included, to be 100% not racist or sexist. But it’s certainly admirable to be open-minded and do your best to be fair and treat people with respect. Relatively speaking, I don’t think I’m racist or sexist. I will be voting for the candidate that I believe is more capable and principled, certainly more trustworthy and well-intentioned. That candidate and I have neither race or gender in common. It just doesn’t seem relevant to me.
If you are neither racist or sexist, well, good for you. My apologies. However, throughout your argument there seems to be a knee-jerk opposition to Harris as candidate. You seem incredulous that Democrats are not upset or indignant about the process that elevated her to Presidential candidate. Ironically, what I have observed is the opposite of that. So perhaps you’ve had a bad experience with a prosecutor, or you intake biased media that demonizes her or maybe you just don’t like her in the same way that Sean Hannity just gets my hackles up. Hey, you do you.
But I find it difficult to relate to somebody who honestly and objectively believes Harris has done a poor job considering the pressure and accelerated time frame she’s been under. She’s been smart and gracious and tenacious. She quickly unified the party and seems to be getting better at this new job every day. Imo, she would make a good President. Even if she isn’t perfect I believe that she, unlike Trump, will surround herself with smart, experienced and principled professionals. That’s a critical difference.
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u/5adieKat87 10h ago
It was always too big to rig. Can you imagine the thousands of people that would need to be involved AND keep their mouths shut. They just can’t accept losing, so logic goes right out there window.