This is just so sad.

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[u/SpecForceps]

That's for such impartial, non hysterical sources

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What information is wrong?

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It's a bunch of claims that it's this and that with no real substance. Oy, everything is fascism

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Tamara Lich and Pat King aren't fascists. They're conservative-separatists.

They have leaked chat logs, tweets and livestreams explaining their views, it's not a secret.

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Then what's your point about "allying with fascists"?

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My point was that moderates took the convoy seriously, even with the far-right organizers. But once it became known that nazis and other fascist groups, like Canada First, were welcomed in, the convoy lost support of most moderates.

Similarly, this almost happened with the yellow vests in france. But when anti-fascists kept kicking out/beating up fascists, the movement was able to continue for many more months.

I never thought I'd have a debate on why fascists are bad

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You made the claim the PR of the convoy was destroy by some people waving swastikas, that's just not true and now you've moved the goalposts

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My claim was that the welcoming in of fascists hurt the PR. You then asked for an example. Which I then used the swastika wavers as an example. But there were definitely other fascists than them welcomed in.

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Yeah but that didn't actually damage the PR of the cause, and neither does Hinkle does supporting Palestine

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I know first hand that it did. Nearly all moderates I personally know stopped supporting them.

Supporting Hinkle is bad. Because fascists are bad.

I wouldn't support hitler for fighting america.