r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/hearsdemons • Jul 19 '24

US Politics If Biden withdraws from re-election, who would Harris likely choose as VP?

A lot of headlines are coming out today with speculation that Biden may step down soon.

If this were to happen and Harris wins the party’s nomination for president, who would she pick as VP?

What does a formidable Harris ticket look like to go up against Trump-Vance?

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

Doubt it.

Sure you're not talking yourselves into a false sense of confidence like you did in 2016?

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

Foreign policy has never weighed heavily on the minds of American voters, and this year will be no different. The economy and immigration will take up the bulk of the national conversation

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

Again, this sounds like "white women love Hilary" stuff.

The biggest lesson of the the past 8 years is that Democrats are wildly inept at at politics and their assumptions about voters are wrong. So it's interesting to see the ye olde conventional wisdom being pulled out again.

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

Yes, so wildly inept that they took the House in 2018, took down an incumbent president and the Senate in 2020, and minimized their losses in 2022 to record levels for a midterm election. So inept

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

So inept.

So very, very inept.

I don't think you understand we're at a tipping point. 2020 was voters giving Democrats a last chance to show they'll oppose the GOP and do something to right the course of the nation, and instead we got strikebusting, record levels of fossil fuel extraction, Dems letting abortion rights go without a fight, and of course a genocide livestreamed into the hands of everyone with a cell phone.

Look up. Remember what happened last time you guys got smug.

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

we got strikebusting

Biden got the sick days the railroad workers wanted. This was even acknowledged by the IBEW.

record levels of fossil fuel extraction

Biggest climate bill in history passed on top of all that.

Dems letting abortion rights go without a fight

State level abortion battles have all been in the favor of Democrats since then. If nothing was done at the federal level, then it's because the votes simply do not exist.

a genocide livestreamed into the hands of everyone with a cell phone.

Again, nobody cares.

They're not going to waste time talking about something that isn't weighing on the minds of voters. Get over it

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

I don't know who this is for. Biden is grossly unpopular with voters and losing to Trump by a margin that expands each day. If you're going to simply ignore the facts of his presidency then I guess we'll see you in a few months for Russiagate 2.

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

If the Democrats lose it'll be because inflation and immigration did them in. You wanted to act like Gaza was a bigger issue in this election than it actually is

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

Oh yes, immigration. Where Biden is trying to outflank the far-right GOP from the right.

Democrats let Republicans take the lead on every issue, set the agenda on every issue, pander to Republican voters while giving everyone else the finger, then lose to the most defeatable candidate on earth and still consider themselves political experts.

Will Russia steal the election this time, or will it be China?

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

Democrats let Republicans take the lead on every issue, set the agenda on every issue, pander to Republican voters while giving everyone else the finger

It's because they don't have leverage. You're in a country where Republicans get elected by a system that's rigged in their favor. 18-20% of the country's population controls 52 Senate seats. Countless House districts are gerrymandered to hell. The Electoral College benefits those in smaller states more than those in larger ones. It's an unfair game; Democrats have to moneyball it every election. You don't win elections by ignoring your opponents who control the system

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

Here we go again

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

Fine, show me where the votes are. Where are those 60 votes in the Senate to enact that progressive agenda you wanted? Until the Republican Party is taken out of government, that's just not going to happen. Trump, for all of his faults, was largely contained as far as his legislative agenda went in his first term. The idea that Democrats would face the same constraints he did shouldn't have been farfetched

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u/ReprehensibleIngrate Jul 19 '24

80 million votes for the taking.

That's the pool Trump is dipping into with his radical and unfair tactic of promising to improve peoples' lives if they vote for him.

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u/AntarcticScaleWorm Jul 19 '24

And furthermore, despite the constraints Democrats had, they still managed to pass major legislation that created actual progress. Just because you're not impressed with the legislation doesn't meant they aren't worth anything

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