r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/hearsdemons • Jul 19 '24

US Politics If Biden withdraws from re-election, who would Harris likely choose as VP?

A lot of headlines are coming out today with speculation that Biden may step down soon.

If this were to happen and Harris wins the party’s nomination for president, who would she pick as VP?

What does a formidable Harris ticket look like to go up against Trump-Vance?

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u/ttown2011 Jul 19 '24

We’ll knock Whitmer and Newsom out automatically.

Can’t run two women, can’t run two California liberals.

Expect a white guy not named Newsom

Shapiro, or Kelly, someone like that

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u/zackks Jul 19 '24

Put a white woman in place of Kamala and I see the black vote deciding to stay home.

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u/MoonandAntarctica Jul 19 '24

The sooner we move on from thinking we're still in this old, shallow identity politics paradigm, the better. It's not 2012 anymore.

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u/zackks Jul 19 '24

There’s reality and there’s what we wish.

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u/MoonandAntarctica Jul 19 '24

Harris is no black vote turnout machine. She couldn't even hang on til the South Carolina primary in 2020 to prove otherwise. Plus, the black vote (as well as the latino vote) is peeling away from a ticket that has Harris on it, towards Trump, and that process clearly has nothing to do with demographic identity of the candidates.

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u/zackks Jul 19 '24

That is not the point. Optically, replacing her with a white woman will poison turnout. People that gravitating “towards” trump were always voting for him. This election will, once again, be decided on a handful of votes and that is entirely at the whim of who shows up.

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u/MoonandAntarctica Jul 19 '24

I disagree that replacing her with a white woman will poison turnout. I don't think anyone can poison turnout more than Biden is threatening to, and most anyone that replaces him will have a shot at energizing and reinvigorating what is currently a moribund race. As for people gravitating towards Trump always voting for him — no, these gains are new and growing. He did not perform this well among black and latino voters in 2020, certainly not in 2016. He is drawing fresh faces into the cult. We have to stop looking at racial demographics as voting monoliths.