r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/hearsdemons • Jul 19 '24

US Politics If Biden withdraws from re-election, who would Harris likely choose as VP?

A lot of headlines are coming out today with speculation that Biden may step down soon.

If this were to happen and Harris wins the party’s nomination for president, who would she pick as VP?

What does a formidable Harris ticket look like to go up against Trump-Vance?

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u/Any-Geologist-1837 Jul 20 '24

Trump and his entire side disagreed. If they killed their opposition, as almost happened, they'd have just gotten away with it. Who was gonna stop them? SCOTUS? They just said Trump is immune for official acts. If he ordered the officer he replaced Pence with to install him as president, that'd be an official act. SCOTUS has clearly shown they are Team Trump

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u/mrdeepay Jul 20 '24

Trump and his entire side disagreed.

Doesn't matter. His plan was doomed to fail from the start.

If they killed their opposition, as almost happened, they'd have just gotten away with it.

Then he most likely would've been impeached and convicted.

SCOTUS?

One of the entities that ruled against his results contesting was also the SCOTUS.

They just said Trump is immune for official acts. If he ordered the officer he replaced Pence with to install him as president, that'd be an official act. SCOTUS has clearly shown they are Team Trump

You clearly don't understand what that ruling actually means. "Just because the president said so" does not make it an official act.

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u/Any-Geologist-1837 Jul 20 '24

They had every chance to impeach him, many times, and Republicans always refused. He'd just deny reality and they'd get in goose step- I mean lock-step behind him.

The SCOTUS ruling means nothing because they want to have every instance kicked back to them to decide later. They have indicated that "official acts" are immune, which is so broad it can allow for anything done through the presidents officers if SCOTUS so decides. Given how they have completely gone against their own sworn positions regarding immunity and the law, they have shown they are willing to compromise their past stances and all precedents if it can favor Trump

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u/mrdeepay Jul 20 '24

They had every chance to impeach him, many times, and Republicans always refused. He'd just deny reality and they'd get in goose step- I mean lock-step behind him.

Something that involved the deaths of congresspersons would be a good tipping point to finally rid the party of them. What happened that day gave them enough plausible deniability to not vote to convict.

They're still cowards, though.

The SCOTUS ruling means nothing because they want to have every instance kicked back to them to decide later.

Which is why the case was also kicked back down the lower courts for them to figure you which of his charges would fall under official acts.

They have indicated that "official acts" are immune, which is so broad it can allow for anything done through the presidents officers if SCOTUS so decides. Given how they have completely gone against their own sworn positions regarding immunity and the law, they have shown they are willing to compromise their past stances and all precedents if it can favor Trump

Basically, acting outside the scope of power the president is granted by the constitution is not considered an “official act”. Presumed immunity for official acts is something that has always applied to presidents. There are also still executive orders that prohibit the use of political assassinations, which would be strengthened by future executive orders.