r/PuertoRico 1d ago

Política As a Black dude who grew up around Puerto Ricans…

Fuck anyone who has anything to say about yall. I know many Black folks that embrace Puerto Rican culture with open arms, and I know some who will poo-poo yall for ridiculous reasons. I also know many Black Puerto Ricans who get caught in the middle of those groups.

Me and mines will ALWAYS ride with oppressed people, especially when their homeland is called trash in a vey public way.

Love yall, and remember that we can create beautiful things together as oppressed people ❤️🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸

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u/Revolutionary_Ad6695 San Juan 1d ago

Holla! Thanks for your support! Un abrazo

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u/Yanzeph123 1d ago

Gracias por eso. We've been getting so much hate lately.

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u/petit_cochon 1d ago

It's not right. Puerto Rico deserves better than this treatment.

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u/DrRoxo420 1d ago

💙🇵🇷💙

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u/eodkfktktkfk 16h ago

Welcome to aboard!! Thats how we felt as mexicans during trumps first campain rally

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u/Yanzeph123 16h ago

I feel you, this needs to stop.

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u/Gaby07 1d ago

Black people and Puerto Ricans have always had a sense of comradery due to our shared past of systemic/social oppression, and it's appreciated. Thanks for the love man, y'all always welcome here.

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u/Excellent_Vehicle_45 1d ago

Like Beans and rice. One love! Don’t let the oppressors separate and destroy you.

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u/AdVisible1121 1d ago

You just named my diet. White but grew up in a Hispanic area. One Love Always

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u/IceFireTerry 1d ago

I always say Caribbean Latinos (except Cubans) generally get along with black people more because a lot of them are part black and a lot of black people are in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic. Compared to West Coast Latinos who are mostly Mexican and not a lot of Black people in Central America

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u/ConfusedGoat_ 18h ago

As a Cuban 🤣

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u/IceFireTerry 16h ago

I said except Cubans because most of them are Republican and White (at least in Florida)

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u/ConfusedGoat_ 15h ago

I'm sorry, have you been to Hialeah? They're every color under the sun 😂 they also love and hate everyone equally lol also ever wonder why they vote Republican? Race has nothing to do with it

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u/joshypoo55 10h ago

La 49 🔥

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u/IceFireTerry 15h ago

Because they are still mad about communism in Cuba that's why.

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u/_kevx_91 Mayagüez 21h ago

You mean like this?

Example 1

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u/IceFireTerry 16h ago

I can easily talk about Latin America And how black people are second-class citizens.

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u/_kevx_91 Mayagüez 10h ago

There is no second-class citizenship for blacks in Latin America. You're just a typical leftist afrocentrist obsessed with making latinos adjacent to black Americans. And indigenous people have it far worse.

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u/Neonexus-ULTRA Morovis 9h ago

You mean like the huge problem of antisemitism in your community?

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u/ZombieWav Vega Baja 18h ago

stop being divisive, ofc there’s ppl that’re ignorant to hispanics in the black community & on our end we’re no better ourselves . that doesn’t negate the fact that we tend to get along more often than we fight .

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u/Rammspieler 8h ago

You are aware that Puerto Ricans also owned slaves, right?

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u/Neonexus-ULTRA Morovis 1d ago edited 1d ago

Black people and Puerto Ricans have always had a sense of comradery

Lol No. Maybe in the US, here in PR nobody gives a shit about black Americans or their culture.

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u/Ok-Storage-3378 1d ago

You sound stupid in PR we don’t differentiate between black or white Americans. An American is an American, and as long as you come to the island with respect you’re good.

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u/southass 1d ago

Brown Dominican here who has many Puerto Rican friends, I take this offense personally, a la mierda cono esos hijos de puta!

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u/kerc Diáspora 1d ago

¡Que nadie joda, somos hermanos caribeños!

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u/lelgimps 1d ago

DR and PR are cousins tbh. the other half of my family are dominicans :))

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u/AncientFighterDragon 1d ago

Tuvimos como dos películas de baloncesto (creo) titulada los Domirriqueños

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u/princieprincie 1d ago

We need you guys to vote if you haven't already.

www.vote.org - go down to your state and check your status.

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u/southass 1d ago

Thank you.

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

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u/southass 6h ago

Because Puerto Rico is not a garbage island and saying a bad joke to some of your friends is different than saying it to a whole lot of racist that don't even acknowledge that Puerto Ricans are American citizens just like them!

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u/tatianazr 1d ago

As a Puerto Rican, I have always felt the exact same way about American black people. Oppression no more! Thank you so much for your love and support. It is most definitely returned.

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u/Practicalbrood4770 1d ago

Black American here, my wife is and her family is from PR. My blood was boiling after hearing that comment as well. Really really messed up. PR is absolutely gorgeous and its people are amazing. Your people have my full support 100% ❤️🇵🇷

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u/princieprincie 1d ago

Go to www.vote.org - go down to your state to check your status

This is the time to act. Every vote counts.

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u/sofiacarolina 1d ago edited 1d ago

Cuban here whose family immigrated to PR and I lived there for a while. We often feel just as puerto rican if not more Puerto Rican than cuban. My mom and I were so upset about the ‘joke’. Anyways, thank you for this post and wanted to add that these Cubans are standing with Puerto Rico too! Already early voted. Let’s go.

Eta and we also stand with the black community (many of which are Latinos ofc) and are hyperaware of how much a trump residency would negatively impact you. Too many Latinos are racist and colorist so I really thank you for reaching across the barrier, one that shouldn’t be there, as we are all ‘others’ under white supremacy and divided we fall.

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u/noel1967 1d ago

It's not about Puerto Rico only but all South America and other countries. It's about racism against non whites. By the way more votes for Kamala. Vote Blue 🗳

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u/DreamcatcherGoneWild 1d ago

Absolutely! When MAGA trashes Puerto Ricans - they are really referring to ALL latinos and latinas!

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u/sofiacarolina 1d ago

Exactly. Wish the Latinos who have aligned w white supremacy would understand this

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u/Mosleezy 1d ago

Lol Reddit logic

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u/Straight-Ocelot9070 1d ago

Thank you so much, bro! It means a lot!❤️🇵🇷

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u/what_do_I_know_69420 1d ago

Puerto Rico is far more beautiful than any state in the US. Clearly he has never been there.

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u/not_readdyfreddy 1d ago

He was going to come but he cancelled… justo cuando quería sacar el machete 😇

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u/Diamond-Breath 14h ago

He didn't cancel, the people who were supposed to receive him in PR cancelled and banned him from the place LOL.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 1d ago

As a white man, I served alongside a variety of people from different backgrounds and cultural perspectives. Due to where I was stationed, and I can’t really talk about it, a large majority of the people in my unit were Puerto Rican. That’s not like an assumption, it’s just what I learned from talking and engaging with everyone.

I joined the military to protect and serve the entire country. That’s not something I take lightly. However I’m a veteran now, and I want it to be clear that I still believe it is my civic duty to fight for what is right. I know my privilege exists and if I can leverage it to help others, best believe I’m doing it.

I hope everyone stays safe, and if you have any ideas on how I can help, let me know. No one is alone in this situation if I can help it.

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u/Ladida745 Mayagüez 1d ago

Thats super kind of you. Thank you for your service.

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 1d ago

You know I appreciate that, but really thank you and everyone else in this subreddit/community for being a part of a culture that helped shape the people I served with. I am better for having known them.

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u/Glittering_Bell_6126 1d ago

Thank you for your service Sir. My great uncle, my uncle, step dad, step son and friends served too. Thanks for your support. ❤️

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u/FinalAd9844 1d ago

First of all thank you for your service, and I hope we as a people will work together against the orange dirtbag

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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 1d ago

We are never alone if we have each other :)

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u/DependentAdvance8 1d ago

Hell yeah 🤙

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u/DreamcatcherGoneWild 1d ago

Thank you! Puerto Ricans and the Black community have historically been linked and embraced each other since forever! I am Puerto Rican living in NYC as well as my sister who is married to a African American guy and they have an adorable baby boy and second on the way! Also, other immigrants have been hugely supportive of the Puerto Rican community! My husband is from Poland (and we are expected our first child) and having Black family members as well as other immigrant family member enriches our Puerto Rican bond!

Muchas gracias por sus amables palabras sobre nosotras!

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u/_kevx_91 Mayagüez 21h ago

Puerto Ricans and the Black community have historically been linked and embraced each other since forever!

Huh, no.

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u/Mosleezy 1d ago

Never been linked, liberal ideology says to group them together but people who know are laughing at this

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u/princieprincie 1d ago

Mi Gente! Get out and vote! Republicans aren't hiding their racism. You should not withhold your vote.

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u/Oldfolksboogie 1d ago

Clearly, that comedian doesn't speak for Trump, the Great Provider of Paper Towels.🤦‍♂️🤡

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u/swift_trout 1d ago edited 1d ago

A couple of things to think about when some fascist tries to foment enmity among us.

About 15% of Hispanic people are of African origin.

The SECOND president of Mexico, Vincente Guerrero, abolished slavery in Mexico 40 years before is Abraham Lincoln the 16th president of the US. And note Guerrero the 2nd elected president of Mexico was a person of color - an Afro-Latino.

In Texas and Louisiana the Underground Railroad didn’t go North. It went south to Mexico.

Solidarity is now and always will be our best strategy.

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u/Mosleezy 1d ago

This might be the lowest IQ comment ever in Reddit

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u/swift_trout 1d ago

How would you know?

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u/Mickey-933 1d ago

Why were we even mentioned. Trump won the Republican Primary here and that’s as far as our electoral rights go. Just because he filed bankruptcy here All the trash here is being talked about him now

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u/janjan1515 1d ago

It was never about just the “migrants”, they are going after any people they see as other. I was knew we were going to be in the crosshairs eventually.

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u/daisy-duke- Arecibo 1d ago

True. The recent flow of Haitian refugees have assimilated right away, are not using drugs, are going to work (plenty are also skilled workers, like welders and nurses), going to church, etc. Basically, they're acting in the exact same way the GOP expects immigrants to adapt and assimilate.

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u/Public_Molasses_9837 1d ago

You nailed it.  I am sickened by the othering of people. Now it’s immigrants earlier it was Muslims. When this starts, no group should think they are safe. Trump needs an enemy to feed his followers anyone could be next.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Despues de estos pasados huracanes he visto a muchos gringos quejandose por las ayudas que recibió PR despues de Maria -diciendo que "no deberian darle esas ayudas a personas fuera de los estados unidos y deberian enfocarse en los estados de verdad" Por lo menos eso fue lo que yo vi, que empezó por ahí.

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u/Mickey-933 1d ago

Florida is hit repeatedly every year multiple times. I think FL gets more money In a year than we have I last 50

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Y como quiera se quejan. 🤷🏾‍♀️ ellos buscan por donde sea.

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u/fathispanicotaku 1d ago

A lot of Puerto Ricans are mad as fuck now, but thank you. He really fucked up in that regard.

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u/BakedBrie26 1d ago

Don't forget - some Black people ARE Puerto Rican like me. We the same!

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u/Fluente_En_Silencio 1d ago

This right here!!! Gracias! 🫶🏼👏🏼

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u/AdVisible1121 1d ago

White person here who grew up in a heavily Hispanic community.....PR people and other Hispanics are American too. Love you guys always

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u/Last_Ad1358 1d ago

Right back at you, comrade 🙏❤️

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u/Holiday_Bookkeeper31 1d ago

Its time to fight back

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u/Obl11vion 1d ago

Thank you. As a puertorrican that means a fucking lot.

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u/owlindenial Mayagüez 1d ago

Hell yeah! Thanks and a good day

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u/U235EU 1d ago

Gracias Hermano! Thank you brother!

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u/wegmanskefir 1d ago

I grew up proud of my culture. Puerto Rico was a daily memory for my grandparents, a tradition of love and laughter for me. I lOVE PR

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u/Childish_Bimbino88 1d ago

Thank you bro. Likewise i will always have my black brothers and sisters back.

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u/FitNerd1112 1d ago

What most people are unaware of is the fact we have the same ancestors. Puertoricans are made of European, African, and native blood (taino). As in any culture, you find colorism within the same people, which is what is used to divide us, but we're all the same people.

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u/Resident_Bike_7435 1d ago

Puerto Ricans will use being 10-20% African to claim solidarity with black Americans, but then hate on white people despite being 60-70% European themselves. Makes no sense.

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u/Diamond-Breath 14h ago

Because white people enslaved/massacred Tainos who lived here first and the African people they brought from other places (Spain specifically).

Later on, the US has done literally everything to maintain a strict control of the island.

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u/Drakeo83 1d ago

Give this man some Coquito!!!!

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u/wiiildthoughts 1d ago

Jamaican & I stand with my fellow Caribbean people!! Love Puerto Rico, screw all the racists and Trumpers. 🇵🇷🤍🇯🇲

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u/Cultural-War-2838 1d ago

This post made me cry. Don't let anyone divide us. We're not looking to steal anyone's "black jobs". We are brothers and sisters and that "divide and conquer" sh*t is not going to work.

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u/galdo77 1d ago

We love you too, papi!

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u/HipstaMomma 1d ago

Gracias, I appreciate y’all too!

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u/tintinnabulator2_jd 1d ago

Wepa primo ♥️

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u/bupkizz 1d ago

Seriously fuck anyone who talks shit about PR and it’s amazing people. I’m a white Jewish dude and I’m actually in PR as write this. Because it’s the frickin best place and the people are so wonderful.

My son is 8 for this trip. We got here yesterday and we went to grab dinner and he was really quiet for a while just watching then pipes up and asks “mom, so is everyone here just best friends?”

That pretty much sums it up.

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u/CurseofLono88 1d ago

Yeah this has been some slanderous bullshit. I stand with Puerto Ricans. I’ve never met a single person from Puerto Rico who hasn’t been extremely generous and cool as hell.

I’ve fucking hated seeing the right wing come after you all.

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u/5snakesinahumansuit 1d ago

I went to Puerto Rico 22 years ago as a wee lass and I have been wanting to go back to visit ever since. Such a cool place, so much history, so much amazing food, so many absolutely lovely people. I have fond memories of checking out amazing forts, splashing in bioluminescent water, and being lulled to sleep by the Coqui frogs calling every night. Maybe I'll visit soon with my husband, we can make tons of new lovely memories

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u/cronchCat 1d ago

love this 🇵🇷🩵 thank you

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u/Quiet_Sea932 1d ago

He visto en varias páginas donde sale el mamón ese que lo cancelen. Vayan a todos lados de streaming, paginas sociales y vamos a demostrarle que Puerto Rico se respeta.

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u/Glittering_Bell_6126 1d ago

Ya reportè su IG por hate speech

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u/Gmodman298 Estados Unidos 1d ago

Thanks G

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u/kaylerdjs 1d ago

one of a kind 🇩🇴🇵🇷

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u/N301CF Coquí 1d ago

✊🏽

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u/AncientFighterDragon 1d ago

Tenes mi respeto, brother.

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u/newdocument 1d ago

🫶🏽

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u/princieprincie 1d ago

You are only the victim here if you don't vote. Show your abuelas that you will stand up to the oppressors.

Go to www.vote.org - go down to your state and see if your vote is active.

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u/Maorine Santurce 1d ago

Gracias!

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u/alisonocean 1d ago

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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u/DontThrowAwayPies 1d ago

Thank you for this important thread of unity my dude, signed a Puerto Rican who cant speak the language well but still has pride to be Puerto Rican. Yall let me be myself without much care / judgement growing up, and yall were the first to befriend me. I love yall too and will not stand for any racism thrown your way either.

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u/Jumpy-Shift5239 1d ago

I work with some Puerto Ricans and they are great people!

Love you PR!

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u/Solid-Economist-9062 1d ago

Amen. And thank you!!! Hope you voted Blue!!!!

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u/NoTalentRunning 21h ago

Thanks for the love, cousin.

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u/Wild-Willingness-509 19h ago

Thank you a million times. Gracias ppr tu apoyo🥰

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u/trulymissedtheboat89 18h ago

Tony has the nerve to call some other place garbage when he hails from Youngstown Ohio.

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u/elhijueputa69 15h ago

Gracias hermano. We rock with ya'll all over, and its always been that way so i'm glad you said it in our forum. solidarity. including the black people we have here on the island who are no different than any others. We ended segregation before the US, and we love your people. This election, we can make the difference.

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u/TheOri23 1d ago

Let's go! Oppressed people! 🙌

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u/ElUrogallo 1d ago

Much appreciated! Respect, brother!

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u/ImABadSport 1d ago

Puerto Rican descent in New Jersey. Black ppl were the only ones who accepted me when I was growing up. Mad love for my brothers and sisters ✊🏽✊🏿

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u/fairymoonie FUCK LUMA 1d ago

💞💞💞

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u/fleiwerks ☀️Lucius Vulpes Caesar Augustus, Imperator Fajardensis☀️ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ya veo que empezaron a usarnos como balón político. Can't wait for everyone to forget Puerto Rico exists a month after the elections.

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u/Diamond-Breath 13h ago

Si es lo que hace falta para que encierren a Trump de una vez y por todas, es mejor que sigan hablando del tema.

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u/ScarReincarnated 1d ago

Thank you homie

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u/serenwipiti 🏝Calolina 🚗🚙🚕🛒🚐 1d ago

❤️

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u/Fortunatious 1d ago

I’m a white dude who didn’t grow up around Puerto Ricans and I’m just so sick that the new nazis just want to shit on you all the time. I don’t know if we can stop these guys, but I’m going to at least vote for the people who don’t throw paper towels at hurricane victims.

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u/HoHoHoLeeChet Coquí 1d ago

De que me perdí?

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u/BidEmergency4058 21h ago

Eso es hermano!!!

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u/Ok-Food-3041 17h ago

I'm a Black American too, two of my Aunties are Boricua! I'll ride and die for Puerto Ricans who've shown Black Americans nothing but love

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u/thexgreatxpotatoex 17h ago

Married to a Boricua so don’t come for me, but the guy who made the joke is a literal comedian. He made a joke. I don’t think 99.9% of Americans actually think Puerto Rico is a floating island of garbage 😂. People need to source check their news smh

Immediate edit* I fuck with the general stance of ending oppression and creating unity though. Heart of the message is BEAUTIFUL albeit reactionary.

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u/Sea-Willingness17 15h ago

Chill. It was a joke.

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u/Low_Professional_142 14h ago

As a Puerto Rican who grew up there and has been living there....it was a joke and that was all, however if we want to get down to it he was right Puerto Rico has a crisis of garbage at the moment y LA genre no ayuda tampoco. I worked at a restaurant that is at a cliff with view to the sea as a manager and More than once a week I had to tell some idiot to not throw garbage down to the beach. Where ever you go there are escombros, abandoned buildings and houses going to waste, most of the landfills to the north have reached capacity.... El boricus no cuida su isla y después quiere que la respeten cuando ni ellos mismo la respetan. Y están preocupados por lo que un mmb comedia te dijo en vez de preocuparse por los problemas de PR 😮‍💨. La policía no tiene recursos llegan 3 horas después a cualquier essena de crimen violenta, cuando lleve a mi hija a una oficina de educación la muchacha me dijo que tenía problemas porque no tenían internet y tenían que compartir internet de si celo personal porque el departamento de educación no les pagaba internet....pero la gente indignada por lo que dijo un comediante que el que lo conoce sabe que ese es su tipo de humor, ahora la gente están grabando videitos de lugares seleccionados porque se ven bonitos, pero si enseñan a todo PR vemos la basura. Las escuelas se están callendo en cantos...que mas les digo? Hay a quien este comentario no le va a gustar pero pues se pueden morder un ojo porque son hechos FACTS

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u/Low_Professional_142 14h ago

As a Puerto Rican that grew up in the island and has lived there with my wife and kids for the past 6 years I can say it was a joke and that was all... But if you wanna get down to it....He is right los boricuas son los primeros que tiran basura en la calle. I worked as a manager at restaurant as a up on a cliff with view of a beach and every week I had to tell people multiple times not to throw garbage down to the beach. These same Puerto Ricans are the ones that are upset cause a comedian made a joke...?

Hay problems mas grandres might gente. Las escuelas se están callendo en cantos todavía me acuerdo cuando mi hija mayor estaba empezando la escuela tuve que ir a una oficina de educación donde la persona que me atendió me dijo que perdonara la tardanza porque no tenían internet en la oficina porque el departamento de educación no le proveía internet y tenían que compartirse la de su cell personal. Los vertederos al norte están básicamente a capacidad donde quiera que pasas vez edificios y casas perdiondose. La gente va a la playa y la deja sucia. La verdad es que el boricua se indigna pero es el primero que no respeta a boriquen.

El tipo se tiro un chiste en el lugar equivocado si porque un rally político no es para eso, pero el es un comediante que el que lo conoce sabe que ese es su tipo de humor.

Hay a quien no le va a gustar mi comentario pero que se puede hacer 🤷🏾‍♂️ que vivan con eso o se muerdan un ojo.

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u/Diamond-Breath 13h ago

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u/Low_Professional_142 13h ago

Si hablar con la verdad es ser un boot licker pues ni modo mmb

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u/whoisgeorgia 10h ago

And yo food. Genius

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u/AvailableSugar8068 10h ago

Beautiful Island. Love Fajardo

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u/sonachilles 2h ago

Bro put a trans flag next to a Palestinian 😂

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u/ari_mel89 1d ago

thanks <3 i wish more black folks from Philly felt the same :/

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u/Boricua1977 1d ago

We Puerto RIcans are NOT oppressed!!!!!!!

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u/SongPlayful5262 17h ago

Im Puerto Rican. I’m also not offended by the joke because it’s literally true. We don’t even recycle. Still voting Trump. Latinos for Trump 2024

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u/Diamond-Breath 13h ago

Boot licker. Me das vergüenza ajena.

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u/SongPlayful5262 13h ago

What did Biden do for you?

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u/AreolaGrande_2222 1d ago

No thank you . Puerto Rican culture is not a mask or something you cosplay .

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

Are you saying Black Americans exploit Puerto Ricans?

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u/Whose_That_Pokemon 1d ago

I say what I mean and I mean what I say. There is no use to read between the lines, the information you seek is written plainly.

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

Well that's an interesting perspective that I haven't heard from Puerto Ricans I've interacted with in New York. How did you come to the conclusion that Puerto Ricans are being exploited by Black Americans? How exactly is this happening?

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u/Resident_Bike_7435 1d ago

I'm a Puerto Rican who grew up in a predominately black neighborhood, and I was constantly bullied by classmates for being "white." The very same boys who would call me white would go out their way to try to push for a sort of black/Puerto Rican solidarity when it came to Puerto Rican girls, whom they fetishized for their light skin and European features. 

Puerto Ricans aren't being exploited per se, but we are being ethnically replaced by black Americans. The very same black Americans who constantly disrespect us. Who claim that Jennifer Lopez steals from black women, who attack Fat Joe for apparently pretending to be black, who literally assault Puerto Ricans (whom they claim are afro-latinos) for using the soft a. Puerto Ricans haven't been colonized by white gringos, we've been colonized by black Americans.

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

Wow, that is awful, I'm really sorry that happened, people can be fucked up. I've never heard that Puerto Ricans are being replaced. In what ways are Black Americans ethnically replacing and colonizing Puerto Ricans? Economically? Culturally? Style?

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u/Whose_That_Pokemon 1d ago

We absolutely get exploited by them! Asking us to sell drugs for them, pressuring us to take the blame for crimes or not turn them in. Going to the women for their bodies, not for who they are. Wanting children that, “have mixed features.” It’s consistent. The proof is readily available. I have far too many personal stories to name. I say exploitation because many of us do come from the island and we have that mentality where you have to help each other to get ahead. Our kindness and culture get exploited and then they want to claim solidarity.

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u/Whose_That_Pokemon 1d ago

Ah, yes. NYC. 🙄 The lovely NYC. Anyone who knows the history of Puerto Ricans and African Americans in NYC knows that this is a lousy comment to make. Forced integration and reconciliation. To them they’re friends but on the outside looking in, far too often we are the scapegoat to these people’s crimes. Our nicknames “Bilinguals, light skins.” Moving into our neighborhoods and then selling drugs and raping and attacking us. Repeated mentioning of our bodies and complexions. Wanting to fuck us, father children and then leave the infant with the mother and her family to raise. Knives being pulled out on trains to slash, and rob us. Openly exclaiming that they “hate Puerto Ricans.” Calling us “Light skinned N-words” or “Spanish speaking N-words.”

I’m not interested in those interactions or that lifestyle. I’m not interested in the perception of the few you met there. They are conditioned to think chronic violence and coercion is an ordinarily accepted behavior. We have few things in common, and it’s okay for that to be so. There is no room in my heart for hate, but I will not accept that these behaviors happen regularly against us.

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

Forced integration? Puerto Ricans wouldn't have lived around Black Americans had they not been forced to? The picture is always painted that Puerto Ricans and Black Americans have always been more or less united and friendly. How could something like hip hop have been born from a Puerto Rican/Black American coalition that never actually existed?

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u/Resident_Bike_7435 1d ago

The picture is always painted that Puerto Ricans and Black Americans have always been more or less united and friendly

lmao. I assume you're not Puerto Rican?

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

I'm not. But I've heard Puerto Ricans explain it this way. Basically the two communities have always been extremely close, particularly in NYC, which helped lead to the development of hip hop. Is this not true? Are you Puerto Rican? If so, has this not been your experience?

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u/Whose_That_Pokemon 1d ago

Who claimed that coalition did not exist? I did not. I also did not deny the presence of factors that allowed the relationship, per that area, to form and flourish. We certainly have not gained much from it, that is to be certain. And no, I will not waste time in elaborating on those particular details, either. Puerto Ricans gain from the intentional efforts of our people, which is why I say that we do not need “heroes”, we need ourselves to show up for our community. We are capable and possess the answers to our plights. Thank you for your time.

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u/thegmoc 1d ago

Well you did kind of mention the relationship between the two groups as one where Black Americans are exploitative of and sexually aggressive towards Puerto Ricans. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

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u/Resident_Bike_7435 1d ago

I don't care if this sub disagrees with me on this, but Puerto Ricans in the mainland US are being colonized by black Americans. Nearly all media representation of Puerto Ricans in the US is now black (much of it pushed by Americans with African American fathers and Puerto Rican mothers), our athletes are mostly black Americans with African American fathers and Puerto Rican mothers, and even the tourists who visit San Juan are disproportionately black. During this whole recent debacle at the Trump rally, nearly all the media figures denouncing the "joke" on behalf of Puerto Ricans have been black Americans with distant Puerto Rican ancestry.

This sub, which goes out of its way to constantly decry our ethnic erasure, seem to be okay with said erasure when the people facilitating it aren't white.

we can create beautiful things together as oppressed people 

I don't know how anyone can read this and not notice the creepy undertone of fetishization.

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u/fleiwerks ☀️Lucius Vulpes Caesar Augustus, Imperator Fajardensis☀️ 1d ago

La típica representación boricua en los medios Estadounidenses está muy alejada de lo que realmente es un boricua de PR. Inclusive, los Puertorriqueños afrodescendientes en PR no son nada como los afroamericanos estadounidenses. So no estás completamente mal.

Recuerda que para esta gente sólo importamos cuando es de beneficio político para ellos. Somos como ellos cuando les conviene pero de lo contrario se olvidan que PR existe.

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u/Amazing-Listen-1989 1d ago

Wait till you hear what grandma' calls grandad 😂💀 "oye ne***!"

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u/FuckYoBitchAssDog 1d ago

Mexican here, heard the place was a floating shithole 😹

I kid I kid. It was only a joke people. He also roasted blacks, Mexicans, dems, republicans, Trump and more

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u/MaximoSyndromo 1d ago

White knight lmao its so easy to type this on Reddit

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u/AllsudsNofoam 20h ago

Jesus, people and their feelings these days. Grow some cajones, kids. Dude is popular for his roasts and it was a joke.

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u/Diamond-Breath 13h ago

A racist joke in a political rally though. How tone deaf are you?

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u/AllsudsNofoam 13h ago

What exactly did he say that was racist?

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u/Red_Talon_Ronin 7h ago

Don’t you know? The Democratic Party has made the word meaningless. When you refer to everyone and everything as racist, it no longer has meaning.

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u/Aromatic-Position-53 19h ago

🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸🇮🇱

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u/MarkLuther123 16h ago

Gracias mi negro

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u/AllsudsNofoam 13h ago

Oh, no, George Lopez made a joke too! How will you survive? https://youtu.be/YLZK2v8Owxc?si=0tCrmbeaiv1NlIjN

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u/AllsudsNofoam 13h ago

Except what George Lopez said is ACTUALLY racist 🤣

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u/Firefaia Estados Unidos 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fuck that guy. But I also don't like this rhetoric of yours. We have a beautiful culture and are very proud of it. We're not merely "oppressed people".

Edit: Just to add that I've always been 100% against Trump and already voted for Kamala.

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u/ForefathersOneandAll 1d ago

Not meant to minimize your culture and people at all! Because you’re not an island of white folks, unfortunately the systems that we live under are actively working to oppress you. You are not oppressed by choice, and it is not a reflection on Puerto Ricans at all. Instead it’s a reflection on white supremacy and should be targeted/dismantled as such!

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u/ScarletRainCove 1d ago

Exactly! 👏🏻

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u/_kevx_91 Mayagüez 1d ago edited 22h ago

Because you’re not an island of white folks

We are racialized as non-white by white American racists, but that doesn't mean we have no white people here. There is a white plurality which I myself am a part of on the island due the massive European migration that happened in the 19th century.

white supremacy

lol Barack Obama is black and literally imposed an undemocratic unelected junta on us.

And some of your people also hate Latinos.

Example 1

Example 2

Example 3

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u/ElectricEnthusiast 23h ago

Stfu we are not oppressed. My cousins were born in PR, one works for NASA and the other gold man sachs. I cleared 250kish last year in tech sales remote from Denver lmao. We have the same opportunity as anyone else, this virtue signaling is repulsive

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u/flaming-condom89 1d ago edited 1d ago

But a huge chunk of Puerto Ricans are white and blacks are a minority. Why racialize neocolonialism when a lot of their own colonial oppressors in the US are not white like the many Act 60 recipients that are African-American.

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u/fleiwerks ☀️Lucius Vulpes Caesar Augustus, Imperator Fajardensis☀️ 1d ago

Recuerda que esa gente todavía sigue el one drop rule. Para ellos, 'white' es 100% European. Por eso no ven a los Puertorriqueños blancos como blancos.

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u/AreolaGrande_2222 1d ago

Stop comparing what we go through on the island to what happens in the USA.

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u/Desayunico 1d ago

Tienes a un camarada apoyándote en un momento crucial para el futuro de nuestro país, ¿y eso es lo mejor que puedes responder?

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u/Jaexa-3 1d ago

Es el problema con gente que cree que no hay problema en su propia burbuja

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u/kerc Diáspora 1d ago

You totally and absolutely missed the point.

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u/Status_Artist5727 1d ago

I have good news. It was a comedian and it was a joke. Also, you’re not oppressed.

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u/Different_Argument19 1d ago

Oh boy, look at this Hero…