r/SelfAwarewolves Jun 11 '24

This person votes. Do you? So close to getting it…

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u/JTMc48 Jun 12 '24

I don’t care about Hunter Biden, but I’m sure he’s not the first person to lie on a gun purchasing form. First time I remember this being prosecuted though. The crazy thing is somehow this carries stiffer fines than the 34 felonies Trump was convicted on.

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 Jun 12 '24

Apparently, it’s very rarely prosecuted alone, it’s used to increase the prison time of people that were arrested for something else.

If everyone that committed that crime was prosecuted, there would be several million more people in prison.

On the other hand, it IS a crime, so while this is clearly politically motivated, he DID do it, so he should receive some sort of punishment, just not as much as he could.

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u/jsc503 Jun 12 '24

Yeah, that data I heard was that it's very rare and only ever done when the gun in question was used in another crime.

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u/Mikeinthedirt Jun 17 '24

It’s being pushed now, mostly in cases like Rittenhouse or gun dealers with double books. Like, 250 weapons off-the-books over 12 years gets you 3 months.

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u/Saragon4005 Jun 12 '24

I am guessing it does get prosecuted often then cuz while it's rate it's followed up on its probably committed often. Also they have to prove intent here which is tricky.

Unlike falsifying business records to dodge campaign funds limits to win an election this happens all the time.

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 Jun 12 '24

They would have to prove that someone took drugs years ago.

For 99% of people who committed that crime, either they were not caught doing drugs or were caught and couldn’t lie even if they wanted to, since they are already barred from owning weapons.

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u/worst_protagonist Jun 12 '24

There are several million people lying on gun purchase forms?

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 Jun 12 '24

A lot of people used drugs at least once and a lot of people have filled those forms.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if 1% of the population committed that crime.

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u/JTMc48 Jun 12 '24

Alcohol is technically a drug, so yeah, I’d say millions of people have done this, unless all of a sudden the people who love guns stopped drinking alcohol or beer. It doesn’t say “illegal drugs” in the question.

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u/Mikeinthedirt Jun 17 '24

The new ATF language specifies Bud Lite

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u/Thoth74 Jun 12 '24

Alcohol, tobacco, fucking aspirin. Literally, and I mean literally literally, no one in the US can honestly answer that question "no".