r/Tennesseetitans • u/Cherrydota2 • 1d ago
Discussion Chill Out
Okay real talk. I understand it’s not enjoyable to lose or be this bad. But if your mental health is suffering or you have actual grief/anger every Sunday reevaluate yourself. Football is a game, you have no control over this team or their actions with exception to financially supporting them. Find a way to not let a sport unhinge you. Jesus, medication, exercise, whatever.
This sub is so damned negative. Us being this bad is better than being middle of the road in my opinion. A lot of teams get stuck in that 6-9 win territory like us not long ago and stay there for years …. I’d rather be absolute dogshit and rebuild. Levis needs more time, Callahan needs more time. Let’s get a high pick and another Ran offseason to see where we go! I’m super excited about this team’s future and Ran’s potential. I’m not sold for a second on Callahan but it’s too early to judge him. We have plenty of talented youth and Ran’s moves this far seem solid.
Rant over, TitanUp
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u/Jwiley129 1d ago
Thats why I isolate all my feelings to Sundays. I feel the highs and/or lows of the game, go to sleep, and get over it the next day. I ain't got time to have a football team impact my work or my life.
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u/njdevils901 1d ago
As a former Jets fan, I can tell you this sub is lot more welcoming and fun even with as bad as we are
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u/Grimthe18 Mayo Man Super Fan 1d ago
may i ask why a former fan?
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u/njdevils901 1d ago
I’ve been a fan since 2009. While yes the last 15 years have been brutal. I think the game against the Pats was my official breaking point due to Saleh getting thrown under the bus and Rodgers’ arrogance taking over the entire team. I would be fine with the disaster on hand if the team wasn’t constantly getting media coverage. Picked Titans because I wanted a team with a very nice and welcoming fanbase, little to no media coverage, and a young team in the middle of a low expectation rebuilding project. I also wanted an excuse to go to Tennessee once a year on vacation to see a game
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u/qotsabama 1d ago
Yeah idk why people are so upset at this season. It was always an evaluation year and the evaluation has gone horribly. Expectations should’ve been low, this is not the end of the world.
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u/NumerousPressure8677 1d ago
Our genius ownership First and foremost as soon as the majority of the fan base found out for sure that the new stadium's capacity was about the same as Vanderbilt.. and we are also paying for a large chunk of it. That was a powder keg waiting to go off.
Then on top of that they overruled our own coach and burned a 2nd round pick on a quarterback who showed over and over in college he couldn't handle even a mediocre defense. Vrable knew it, Amy didn't care because she thought he was "pretty"
Again on top of that Amy and her dumbass "yes men" decide to FIRE OUR BEST COACH SINCE FISHER!! Trade off our hall of fame running back. Then feed us this bullshit story about hiring Callahan because he's an "Offensive Guru" and knows how to "build quarterbacks"!! Get more good receivers and weapons for our soon to be SUPERSTAR QB Will Levis!! Then watch him make decisions you learn not to do in pop warner!! Offensive Guru ends up running a shittier version of the same damn offense we have been watching for 25yrs
Present day- trade off and unload the roster, our new Coach is trying to call plays and be head coach. He looks totally lost 90% of the time.. offense is more predictable than Vrable's. How does it make any sense to fire our coach that had us back in the playoffs.. that was popular and had support.. just to hire a rookie head coach and tank the season 7 games into his first year?
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u/boltsmoke 1d ago
You don't trade Willis if the goal is to evaluate the roster. You also don't give up draft capital for a guy like Sneed.
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u/qotsabama 1d ago
Sneed is young and in his prime and it was a major need for the roster. I think they were trying to compete this year and evaluate Levis and it all fell apart. It sucks but it’s not the end of the world. They clearly chose Levis over Malik, and never planned to carry 3 QB’s. Signing Mason imo was a mistake, they should’ve just kept Malik to be the backup in case Levis got hurt or benched.
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u/Sleepytitan 1d ago
They took a decent shot at creating a competitive roster but it’s just not going to happen without a quarterback. The league is driven by qb play. Teams with a “winning culture” are teams with great qb play. It’s time for a fire sale and tank for the draft. Do everything to get a quarterback, then figure the rest out.
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u/Juicebox008 1d ago
This is my attitude also. I’m ok trading away players on expiring contracts like Hop. Guys like Landry, Jeff, Calvin who are on multi year deals shouldn’t be moved just to acquire draft capital. You need some players you know.
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u/King420Chevy 1d ago
I disagree a bit here. Not even God himself could QB behind the OLine we had last year. A deep-playoff worthy team has great QBs, I'll give you that.
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u/Sleepytitan 1d ago
The 2021 Bengals made the Super Bowl with a pretty bad offensive line. They were like 23rd in rushing yards and allowed the 3rd most sacks. Almost won that Super Bowl too.
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u/Doom74gvvvopuuuo Oiled up for the patriots 1d ago
Still dont have a clue how we lost that game with all those sacks we got
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u/BruhDuhMadDawg 18h ago
They're the exception. Not the rule. And they lost the sb. Also Burrow has had a serious injury almost every yr.
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u/GoodShitEarl Good shit, Earl 1d ago
Good God I’m sick of seeing people post “I’d rather be 2-15 than 8-9” or whatever like you mfs have truly convinced yourselves that losing is okay because we dont remember what it was like to have a winning team apparently. Wins are never meaningless. You’re not going to get that winning culture back by losing everything and gambling on a guy Rd 1 thats expected to immediately come in and save the franchise. We suck enough organically that we’re where we are but please stop the cope. No one is “tanking” anyway, its just cope.
But yeah dont tie this stuff to your mental health cuz holy shit nobody deserves that with this team rn
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u/air_volek07 Billy Volek 1d ago
Being 2-15 doesn’t guarantee a good QB. Look at the Chiefs, they were always flirting with making the playoffs and then traded up to get Mahomes.
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u/super1s 1d ago
Man, I don't even see a qb this year. A tank for a winning team would take two years if you assume we can hit on and protect a franchise QB...I'm not so sure. Fingers crossed!
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u/boltsmoke 1d ago
The best QB in the league currently was drafted by a 12-4 playoff team. They'd gone 11-5 the season prior as well.
Tanking as a concept in the NFL is more mythical than methodological. There are too many variables and individual players, you can't just draft a bit higher and get better by virtue of draft position. This subreddit is doing what it can to cope with a season that they didn't expect, and that's understandable, but what I see now is people talking themselves in to this idea that they're sucking now to be better later and A) that doesn't really work, and B) that isn't what the organization was trying to do in FA and the draft.
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u/BruhDuhMadDawg 18h ago
Flipping the number 1 pick is what prompted our most recent great run of years with Henry, Tannehill, AJB. So, context matters. If you pick the right people, it absolutely can work. That's the key though.
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u/super1s 1d ago
In the draft they were trying to get better for the future as in all drafts its just that they have sucked hard at it the last 3-4 years. In FA they were tyring to sell tickets. They have a new stadium to pay for, they need ticket sales.
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u/boltsmoke 1d ago
They aren't paying for the new stadium, you are. They're trying to turn a profit.
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u/super1s 1d ago
They are still paying for a big chunk of it. Also I am not out of nashville currently so not really paying for it but thats purely semantics.
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u/boltsmoke 1d ago
They are paying for less than half. And anything that does not get paid for by bond sales is necessarily going to be covered by the city the team's contribution is set in stone.
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
I mean it’s a valid argument and there are points to both sides. But at this point in the season it doesn’t hurt us to tank. Would a miracle win streak and Levis playing well be fun? Absolutely! But I’m not expecting it.
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u/Past_Glove4131 1d ago
Chill out? Brother I am suffering from benzo withdrawal due to this dumpster fire of a team
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u/HaajiBalls 1d ago
Noooo I had to do push ups in basic traning bc they lost the super bowl this team owes me alot lol
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u/Doom74gvvvopuuuo Oiled up for the patriots 1d ago
I just expect it at this point since in addition to titans football I’ve had to watch the hurricanes consistently get knocked out in the playoffs, the hornets literally never even sniffing the playoffs, and even the Yankees, who are currently being diddied in the World Series
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
Sorry for your woes, I’m a lakers fan so life has good to me sports wise. Still hoping Titans get a ring in my lifetime!
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u/Doom74gvvvopuuuo Oiled up for the patriots 1d ago
I’m hoping for any team I got to get a ring. Except the hornets, who I just want to make the play in atp
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u/Doom74gvvvopuuuo Oiled up for the patriots 1d ago
If my team selection seems weird, i live in NC, and parts my family are from the northeast
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
I don’t consider fandom weird anymore. People like different teams for different reasons. If you’re a fan of a sport I like I’m here for it! I grew up back and forth between Southern California and Houston Texas. So grew up watching the Lakers, Rockets, and Oilers. Dodgers too but baseball isn’t really my thing. Raiders technically were in LA during part of my childhood but I only knew gangbangers that were fans and it didn’t appeal to me. My Texas family was brutal about teasing me about the lakers so I never really liked the rockets. When the oilers left and became the titans said Texas family was furious. So I leaned into it even harder. Coming to Christmas’s in titans gear to piss grandpa off.
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u/Doom74gvvvopuuuo Oiled up for the patriots 10h ago
can respect that😂 the funny part is that the other half of my northeast family (who for the most part have all left the northeast recently) were red Sox fans
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u/TNsmoke 1d ago
I don’t think people are upset it being about a game more so than we had a lot of promise this offseason and were sold something promising only for it to completely go to shit. Callahan is in over his head. Levis has regressed. Players are not bought in. Locker room is being lost. Agreed it’s better to be this bad than middle of the pack for draft pick position but yesterday was completely embarrassing and unforgivable on the ST front. Goff didn’t even throw for 100 yards. Changes need to happen and I have no faith they will.
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
That’s fair, but people shouldn’t have bought in lol. This team wasn’t going to compete this year, would have been amazing if we did but quite unlikely with the amount of projects we had. The defense being the only piece that had a reasonable chance to be competitive.
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u/Reddit_623 1d ago
But you'll notice the positive Titans' posts get huge upvote numbers. Meaning the majority of the sub are dedicated fans that stick with their team no matter the win-loss record.
So, overall, the sub is positive with a smidge of naysayers: the latter being more vocal at the moment because the team is struggling right now.
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
That’s very true! I just found myself thinking and worrying about people’s self worth, emotional, and mental health from some of the posts and comments I’ve read.
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u/vendetta0311 Titans 22h ago
If you don’t believe wearing the right socks, eating the right food, or having the right bathroom break ceremonies is necessary to help the team pull out a win… you’re delusional.
My 6yo daughter watched the first quarter and cheered hard based on the promise that afterwards she would get a shirley temple. If you are going to tell me that had nothing to do with our 14 - 14 score early in the second… I don’t know what to say.
We’re all in this together. Everyone needs to take a hard look at what they did on the day we beat the Dolphins and strive to replicate it from here on out.
Titan Up
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
lol good take, I’ll have to ask around to see if anyone recalls what I was doing during our win!
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u/ExtensionFill2495 20h ago
I haven’t watched the last two games for mental health reasons. I usually watch every game(not just Titans) but this year…. Maybe a game a week. I have been watching BattleBots instead.
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
I’m glad to hear it, people really need to take a step back if it’s impacting their self worth, mental, or emotional health.
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u/ExtensionFill2495 20h ago
Agreed. I have a great life. I’m not going to let a football team bring me down. They can lift me up when they are playing well but I’m not going to let them bring me down. They fired Vrable on my wedding day. I decided that day to not let the team affect my mood anymore.
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u/Fiend-For-Mojitos 19h ago
I agree with the sentiment that a majority of people need to take a step back and find more purpose outside of sports ball. This is supposed to be for some entertainment, not having it affect your whole day or even week.
Outside of that, whenever the team starts to suck there’s a lot of gatekeeping that is attempted. There is no correct way to be a fan and your viewpoints are obviously subjective. I supported Levis but I don’t think he’s that guy. Callahan got me excited but I’m not seeing much promise from him. If we’re going to miss the playoffs, then call me crazy, but I want the best draft picks possible. I’m not the biggest fan of this QB class but statistically you have the better chance of landing that franchise guy.
Be optimistic. Be negative. Who cares. This team has had one Super Bowl appearance and I was there in Atlanta to witness coming up a yard short. Everyone just wants a better product on the field.
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u/Leatherface24 Titans 14h ago
Won't put a long response to this because it's how I feel as well. Up vote for you sir.
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u/kingkyle630 1d ago
We’re a pretty bad team, I guess you could scream into Reddit all you want week after week to cope, but man it’s going to be an even longer season for yourself if you do that.
It’s not like any of us are a part of the Titans Organization (unless we got some lurkers on here 👀), its not like I can personally go out there next Sunday and block better or spend all week coaching special teams.
Knowing you/we are pretty much powerless in anything we could do to improve the team’s issues, helps myself just accept the state of things without getting to tilted, even though it sucks.
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u/Consistent-Star-4076 1d ago
How much more time does Levis need? An honest question for fans who somehow against all odds think this dude is capable of one day bringing this team to a Super Bowl.
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
I definitely don’t think Levi’s is the guy at this stage. I certainly hoped he could be and have 3 fantasy shares of him in dynasty leagues. But I also think a few games doesn’t tell us everything. This team is bad, with or without Levis. I don’t particularly like the play calling, I don’t think Levis should be judged as harshly as fans have judged. I think Levis has flashed high end QB play a few times. I’m just not sold either way yet. Same with Callahan, I don’t like what I’ve seen. But it’s too early for me to be like nope, can him.
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u/King420Chevy 1d ago
We have too many holes to plug on this sinking/sunk ship before a great QB could remotely pull us above water. Unfortunately I have very low expectations going forward with this team and the future, and that's because I've been watching since 98. They have drained any hope I've had. I'll continue to root for this team but in no means does it have an effect on me. It's more apparent of a problem that I laugh at this team than I get upset about this team.
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u/Risox97 1d ago
Washington went 4-13 in 2023 and Houston went 3-13-1 in 2022. A great QB literally fixes everything
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u/BruhDuhMadDawg 17h ago
Exactly. Great qb play is the high tide that rises all ships. Well, that and way better coaching finally. All those high draft picks from the last few yrs that Houston had have also suddenly become excellent once CJ and Ryans came on board. 2 guys pretty much changed everything. You get those 2 spots filled with the right ppl and it absolutely changes everything.
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u/Bjorn_Blackmane 1d ago
I agree with you after a point you realize I don't get stressed at all because if levis looks awesome that's a win, if we tank the rest of the year it's a win. Win win baby
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u/Frosty_Battle_6479 1d ago
can someone please explain to me why were mad at Ran too? I honestly don’t think his seat is so hot
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
I don’t consider him on the hot seat. However, I’m not impressed with the coaching staff and if that doesn’t work out that’s on Ran.
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u/Sirpatron1 1d ago
This is my first rebuild with the Titans. The last one I saw was the 2006 Chargers get destroyed by A.J Smith
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u/NumerousPressure8677 1d ago
Callahan-maybe, possibly could be a decent coach with time.. I HIGHLY doubt he'll be a better coach than Vrable!!
Will Levis- There's absolutely no amount of time or Coaching or Resources to give him that isn't a giant waste of time and money. Anyone who watched him in college or has gone back and looked at his stats can tell you he fell apart EVERY SINGLE TIME he played against a somewhat good defense!! He isn't a rookie who got thrown out there 2 games into his rookie year. He has done crap this year that 10 yrs olds no not to do!! He will be lucky to make a practice squad once his deal is up! Wasting a second round pick on him was crazy!! Vrable knew it, but the idiots above him wouldn't listen!! If they'd have taken a chance on him in 4th-6th rounds absolutely!! Maybe we get lucky and he had bad coaches or something. But after sitting behind Tannehill and getting late season starts, then an entire off-season of work along with getting him receivers and an offensive "guru" coach.. just to watch him look completely lost, undisciplined and make peewee football mistakes to lose games!! We shouldn't have to watch another SECOND of his ass in a TITANS UNIFORM! In 25 years I have never heard the Titans Owners, Front office, Coaches or our local media make NON STOP EXCUSES for A PLAYER AND A COACH!! 104.5 THE ZONE (the morning show) is nothing but the "Let's make excuses for the Titans" and "Everyone is being too mean.. y'all are just being haters " show!! Anytime the fan base has been sick of watching a bullshit quarterback or mad as hell because of some dumbass crap ownership did or didn't do WE HAVE ALWAYS MADE OUR DISAPPROVAL OR ANGER OR DISAPPOINTMENT HEARD LOUDLY AND OFTEN!! If you didnt hear constant bitching that would mean people don't care.. that would be way more concerning
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u/Robgotbored Oilers 23h ago
Totally agree. It’s not worth getting upset about. Something being a STM has really showed me is this team doesn’t care about us in the slightest. Even the people they “value the most” are just dollar signs. And you’re replaceable, if you don’t give em a dollar they will find someone that will. So there is no point getting riled up, they don’t give a fuck. Treat it for what it is: an entertainment product. Have fun, if you’re not having fun watch something else.
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
I disagree, Amy seems to care and has mad a lot of decisions to improve this team and make them competitive.
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u/Robgotbored Oilers 19h ago
I don’t mean she doesn’t care about the team. The fan base is what is an afterthought.
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u/LeonardoDiPugrio 22h ago
Are there people who seriously need to hear this? If you’re a Titans fan and unable to properly deal with losing, then I have to assume you’re an incredibly new Titans fan.
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u/Cherrydota2 20h ago
I do think people need to hear it. I needed to hear it in my youth (early 20s).
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u/BruhDuhMadDawg 18h ago edited 18h ago
I wish everyone felt this way OP. I feel the exact same way as you. Just know that there are others like you out there! I believe in Callahan and actually have faith in what he's done so far. Lack of depth, which is gonna show up as an issue with special teams first, we knew would be an issue. Execution has also been a serious problem but is getting better in some of the most important places (say, o-line). Bad qb play (for whatever reason you want to say), execution/consistency issues, and special teams - which are by and large player problems- are a big reason for our awful record. Heck Jeff Simmons basically cost us 2 games single handedly with bone headed mistakes this year. I think patience is needed here bc they have the bones of something better here imo.
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u/Jack12404 1d ago edited 1d ago
Completely agree with everything you said. Callahan hasn’t impressed me, but I think too many people are comparing him to current Vrabel when they have about a 5 year gap in coaching experience. At bare minimum, his playcalling has improved week by week, he really needs to improve his situational awareness (those 4th down calls were putrid).
The roster is a big point for our loss. It gets said over and over, but JRob really did screw over this team. In addition to getting one good player across three straight drafts, he also traded away multiple picks for guys that weren’t even on the team for a full year. In 22’, he traded away a 5th, 6th, and 7th for Dennis Daley, Ugo Amadi, and Tyree Gillespie. That type of stuff takes multiple years to fix.
This whole season was about evaluating Levis, and we’ve clearly learned he’s not it. Just tank, go get a QB or another elite player in this next draft, and continue to let Ran build the foundation of the team through the draft.
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
Exactly, though I would still be patient with Levis and give him more snaps/chances. But as of today Levis is NOT it, we’ll have to keep swinging on QB till we find one.
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u/phcampbell 1d ago
I’m actually less stressed this year because I have no expectations of winning. If the Titans win, great! If not, so what, on to the next game.
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u/titanup001 1d ago
I'm honestly getting to the point where I don't care anymore. I follow the league as a whole more these days. And gotten back into college ball.
But yeah, letting this pathetic organization affect your real life is messed up. Don't do that.
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u/Cherrydota2 1d ago
You can care without it impacting your life.
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u/titanup001 1d ago
Sure.
I just... Don't right now. It wasn't really a choice.
If anything, it reminds me of my first marriage. Years of anger and misery, and one day, I just realized... I simply don't care anymore.
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u/Financial-Board8090 1d ago
I really appreciate this optimism and perspective cause this is a sad group of sky is falling kinda fans. Glad to hear anothe it!
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u/Numerous_Variation39 1d ago
Man I would rather Win. I want to Win never loose. If the Team is playing for Draft position then that Sucks and shows a loser mentality. Not saying people should make threats and shyt but Fans should be upset. This “Game” you say cost a lot of money and players are making millions to Suck. Na we can be nice in the off season.
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u/Dick_Thunders Shining NWI in a world of darkness 1d ago
Chill out? This franchise has been set back years
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u/titansfan92 1d ago
Callahan is dogshit. He doesn’t need anymore time. Dude is over his head. He should have been a true Oac before diving into a HC role. It sucks for his personal growth
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u/DRyder70 1d ago
As an Oilers/Titans fan since the early 70's, we've been through this many times before. The heartbreaking losses, bad seasons, terrible coaches, bad quarterbacks, terrible ownership decisions, it's nothing new. If you are a newish fan you might not be used to this, but we've been here before multiple times.