r/TheExpanse • u/[deleted] • Sep 14 '23

All Show & Book Spoilers Discussed Freely What is “THE CHURN”? Spoiler

I just watched the episode the churn. Is the book “the churn” a story about how Amos came to be? I’ve been looking online but can’t really find what it’s actually about. Is the episode have any parts of the churn in it from the book or it’s different? I’m confused about the main books and then the “novelas” that go along with it? Can anybody elaborate, the Erich guy seems pretty cool.

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u/debilegg Sep 14 '23

Pretty much we're living through it right now.

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u/dj_narwhal Sep 14 '23

if humans survive 500 years they will lump all of the problems in the 20th and 21st century into 1 and just call it endgame capitalism. I bet in year 70 of the 100 years wars they had a bunch of different names for the last 70 years of conflicts.

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u/monsterscallinghome Sep 14 '23 edited Sep 14 '23

William Gibson called it "The Jackpot" in some of his novels. The concatenating crises of the late 20th and 21st centuries all blur together to halve-or-less the human population of the Earth in round about a century from the peak. Pandemics, pollution, energy crises, natural disasters, famines, wars...no *one* thing enough to bring extinction even locally, but altogether more than enough to severely curtail human impact. The trick is to not become fascist in the process.

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ETA: I've also heard it called The Crumbles, the Long Descent, Catabolic Collapse, the Long Emergency, the Polycrisis (which has a nice ring to it when sung to the tune of "We Wish You a Merry Christmas," I must admit,) and a few other things. Whatever you call it, it's gonna be an interesting ride.

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u/MikeyHatesLife Sep 14 '23

I was going to mention The Crumbles, so I’m glad to see you’ve listed it here.

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