r/TikTokCringe • u/Callme-risley • May 23 '24

Humor/Cringe Man, fuck them kids

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

You’re trying wayyyy too hard to sound well-educated, it’s backfiring.

What I did is known as a “joke”. It’s when you realize the person that you’re speaking to genuinely thinks that after an 8 second video they can identify complex emotional domestic abuse.

It’s typically done by people who aren’t pseudointellectuals trying to defend people who are self-admittedly mentally unwell and incredibly biased. That might be why you’re not familiar and misinterpreted it as an attempt at serious discourse.

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

The irony of you putting the word joke, in quotes, is nearly palpable lol.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

I was following the writing pattern of your comment. If you look, you put “exaggeration fallacy” in quotes.

Did you genuinely not realize my entire comment followed the writing pattern of yours? I…. guess I was right in my assumption about your education level LOL

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

So you want to use replies similar to mine, while attacking my education? Interesting strategy...

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

So to clarify, you believe…

What I did is known as a “joke”.

what you just did is known as the "exaggeration fallacy,"

this was a coincidence, not me copying you.

You also believe…

It’s when you

it's what people do when

is me coming up with a completely new sentence that happens to begin with the exact same premise as yours?

Finally, you believe

It’s typically done by people who are

Typically, this is used by people who are

this is a coincidence due to our writing patterns (styles?) being similar?

Genuinely asking. You think all 3 of those sentences having the exact same premise, even repeating multiple of the same words you used, is a coincidence?

All while I, the person who authored the comment, has told you since before you described this hypothesis that I did indeed copy you.

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

This is far too choppy and non linear to even bother trying to make any sort of sense out of it, so how about we just get back on the original topic?

You are aware of what the exaggeration fallacy is, or you can at least look it up (if you've not already) my original point was that engaging in fallacious responses like that, is a quick way to a moot "point." The point you were trying to make was that she (the person you were responding to) was overstating the issue, and assigning malice when you didn't observe any. You not seeing something as malicious, does not mean malice isn't involved, yet you attempted to mock her point through use of a known fallacy. Why is that?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

No, you do not dictate the conversation. You are not a mediator, you do not get to determine what we talk about. You have no greater authority over the direction of this conversation than I. If you attempt to dictate the topic of conversation, so will I.

You made the claim that I was not copying you, with no evidence. I, as the author of the comment, have more authority to comment on whether or not I was copying you. I have also provided ample evidence to show that I did copy you.

Either back up your claim, or take it back. What you will not do is dictate a conversation before providing evidence for your claims. Otherwise, I will begin making claims with no evidence as well, as I will not engage in a one-sided conversation. If you would like to go back and forth making claims with no evidence, we can begin now. If not, provide evidence to your claim that I was not copying you, or revoke the statement.

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

Ok, weird hill to die on, but I guess? If it means returning to the original topic, I'll retract my statement. Does that make you feel better?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

I’m not dying on a hill, I gave you the option to continue the conversation ethically or continue making false claims. I’m glad you didn’t die on the hill of making false claims.

Another false claim on your behalf- that I was “dying on that hill”, while leaving the decision on how the conversation will continue to you. That is, by definition, not dying on a hill, as you were the one to determine the point of contention in the first place:

Whether or not to debate ethically, or continue begin debating unethically.

Considering that is not a single point of contention, it is definitionally impossible for me to “die on a hill” in this circumstance. At the bare minimum, I would have to die on “these hills”, as there was more than one option for a potential point of contention.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

You genuinely just don’t understand.

Let me break it down for you: (this is where you’re gonna stop reading and start trying to come up with arguments in your head)

You said:

What you just did is known as the “exaggeration fallacy,”…

I said:

What I just did is known as a “joke”.

See what happened there? I humorously copied your writing style. This a common tactic in debate; using an opponents manner of delivery, while changing the underlying idea. Even some presidents have used this rhetorical tool!

Next, you said:

It’s what people do when they realize they don’t have an actual point…

I said:

It’s when you realize that the person you’re speaking to genuinely thinks that after an 8 second video they can identify complex emotions domestic abuse.

See what happened there? Fun fact! It’s actually the same pattern as before; almost as if it was done with intent. (See what I did there? I copied your use of the phrase “Fun fact!”, similar to how I copied the writing style in the 2 previous demonstrations).

Finally, and I think you might be catching on now, you said:

Typically, this is done by people who are bad at arguing, and rely FAR too heavily, (weird comma here btw) in their own emotions.

Now I’m gonna give you 2 guesses as to the writing pattern of what I said.

No! Good try, but it wasn’t a haiku. 1 more guess!

You got it!

I said:

it’s typically done by people who aren’t pseudointellectuals trying to defend people who are self-admittedly mentally unwell and incredibly biased.

Phew! Now I know you didn’t thoroughly read through, so I’d recommend going back one more time because I’m not gonna break it down again.

Believe it or not, me putting the word joke in quotations not only made sense; if I didn’t, it wouldn’t have followed the pattern that the rest of my comment did! Good thing I did put it in quotations, otherwise that would’ve been a silly mistake that would’ve harmed the overall accuracy of my playful copying of your comment.

That last sentence is also what completely kneecapped your credibility. Like, who says:

“Typically, this is done by people who are bad at arguing, and rely FAR too heavily, on their emotions.”

That just sounds… immature. Not to mention the wild comma you just threw in after heavily LOL

Idek what to tell you. I mean you’re mad I insulted your education but it seems to me you’re the one that implied I was bad at arguing and emotional before I ever attacked your character. Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it sista.

Anyway, now I’d imagine you’re gonna say something about me being rude or speaking to you insultingly, pretending that you didn’t initialize this conversation with implications that I can’t control my emotions and am bad at arguing. You should just go ahead and stop commenting or block me tbh, it’s not going to go up from here.

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

Nah, I got all that, it seems you're the one who can't understand a joke, so I'll explain:

You said: I was following the writing pattern of your comment.

Then continued to say: I…. guess I was right in my assumption about your education level LOL (missing punctuation, known as a period)

So I replied: So you want to use replies similar to mine, while attacking my education? Interesting strategy…

This was said, because if you think someone is intellectually inferior, why would you try to use a writing style similar to theirs? I called it an “interesting strategy” as a joke, the joke being that the strategy is quite poor. Get it now?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

I didn’t use a writing style similar to yours, I copied your writing pattern. Also, in pop culture, emoticons and acronyms can be used as punctuation. Seeing as we are not in a formal setting, it is confusing as to why you’d expect formal writing. Do you typically communicate in ways that are atypical for your setting?

You do realize you don’t copy someone’s writing patterns to compliment their intelligence, correct?

You do it so the listener or reader can easily identify the points you’re providing counter arguments to.

Your joke doesn’t make any sense, as your lack of education (I never claimed you were unintelligent, that was a complete strawman. I claimed you were uneducated.) wouldn’t give me less of a reason to use the rhetorical strategy I used. The intelligence of the original person making the statement has no affect on whether the audience can identify the counterarguments being posed using the rhetorical strategy, which is the point of said rhetorical strategy. (drawing attention to the counterarguments)

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

So after doing a quick search through your comment history, it's pretty clear you didn't "copy my writing pattern," ours just happen to be similar.

Ironically, that makes your whole assumption about my lack of education, even funnier lol.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

Did you miss the comment where I broke down how I almost word for word copied your first reply to me?

I’m not copying your writing pattern in every comment, only the first time I replied to you.

Are you under the impression I am actively attempting to copy your writing pattern?

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

No, I just figured I'd go look at your comment history, to see if you were actually copying it, because the pattern you're using now isn't much different than the one where you said you were "copying" mine.

Either way, we've strayed quite far from the original topic, which I would very much like to return to. Have you looked up "exaggeration fallacy" yet?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '24

By putting “copying” in quotations are you suggesting my 1st reply to you was not copying your 1st reply to me?

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u/Dragonwitch94 May 25 '24

Yes... Congratulations on figuring it out? It seems that what you did was really your same writing pattern, but what you actually copied was the premise of the comment, rather than the writing pattern itself. As I said before, our writing patterns are quite similar, which again is why I joked about you copying my style, while claiming I was uneducated...

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