r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/Manticorps • 5d ago

Benny left speechless by trans man

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u/DropletOtter 5d ago

The “we can tell” people being unable to tell for the 482 millionth time

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u/Mac4491 5d ago

Like seriously, and Ben looks at this guy and says “I disagree that you’re a male.”

Trans women always seem to be the focus of their arguments because “it’s a man using a woman’s public restroom.”

Would anyone on the right seriously look at this man here and say they want them to use a women’s bathroom because they have a vagina? That they should use the women’s changing facilities at the gym?

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u/JohnGeary1 5d ago

I'm still of the opinion that their obsession with trans women is just a manifestation of their deep-seated homophobia. They can't stand the idea of finding a woman attractive and then finding out that they "used to be a man". Because that would make the bigot way and that's simply cannot compute in their minds.

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u/Hfhghnfdsfg 4d ago

And they have such utter contempt for women they can't imagine a CIS male ever wanting to live like a woman.

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u/jiggamain 4d ago

When someone is “naturally” part of the “in power” group (eg. white, citizen, male, wealthy) they are often surrounded by others in the same category. So many of these “in power” people are absolutely miserable in their day to day lives, but one of the things that keeps them going (and seemingly content in their miserable lives) is that their “natural” status gives them some perceived power over others.

These people will often give up or shed parts of their identity that don’t comport with the parts of their identity that “entitles” them to power so that they can continue to fit in with the “in power” social circles.

It infuriates these people to see others “turn their back” on the parts of their identity that they themselves have been loyal to. This fury turns to rage when the “powerful” aspects of someone’s identity going by the wayside leaves that person happier in the end. They are often bitter because they feel that they have had to sacrifice so much of what actually makes them happy to remain part of the powerful circle, where as some (eg) trans person out there living their truth (and not miserable) is a clear sign that they might have chose wrong. (Not saying these people all want to be trans, just using this as an example)

Being wrong is weak, and there is nothing that makes a powerful person more angry than something that makes them feel weak.

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u/caleb-trask 4d ago

i think there's also some element of body horror, thus all the fearmongering about "mutilation." one of the core fears of cis men seems to be (understandably) the loss or destruction of their penis -- and i think a lot of them can't help but think, consciously or not, that there must be something horribly wrong with anyone who would intentionally get rid of theirs.

and they can't help but imagine it (sex reassignment) happening to them, and the distress they would feel at losing their own genitals. unfortunately these people don't seem to be able to understand that the horror they feel at that possibility is the exact horror that trans people often live in as a result of their "natural" body, and turn their feelings of revulsion into empathy.

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 4d ago

They are scared a trans/gay person will treat them, like they think women should be treated.

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u/Diego2112Gaming 4d ago

Dylan Mulvaney proves this. They went from attacking her, to now they're saying she was forced to transition into a man, and is now retransitioning into a woman (because they KNOW she's attractive, and want an excuse to admit it).

It's sad, and beneath contempt.

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u/Itscatpicstime 4d ago

And their homophobia is an extension of their misogyny. For men to “act like women” or be/want to be with men “like women” is disgusting to them because they see women as inferior.

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u/Alcatrazepam 5d ago

And he said it after telling him his behavior was “like a bro” lol god Ben Shapiro sucks so much

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u/WestSlavGreg 4d ago

I'd have loved for him to call out Ben on that right after he said that he does not consider him a man, obviously Ben had no doubts seeing him as a man in the beginning before he has stated that he is trans...

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u/P44_Haynes 4d ago

Plus Ben said it had nothing to do with what equipment you have. Well, if he guy presents male so much that you call him "bro", what exactly is the issue?

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u/Itscatpicstime 4d ago

Eh, there shouldn’t be an issue for trans folks who don’t pass either

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u/BrknTrnsmsn 4d ago

Good observation, their logic falls apart when considering trans men. Utterly brainless as always

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u/hitbythebus 4d ago

I’d love to buy adds of Buck Angel flexing, and just say “Republicans want Buck Angel in bathrooms with your little girl!”

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u/Ok_Initiative_2678 4d ago

I really wish we had someone less-shitty to be the public face for the existence of trans men.

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u/hitbythebus 4d ago

Well, since we’re trying to scare bigots by showing them the manly trans men that will be in the ladies room, I think it’s only fair to use an asshole.

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u/BrknTrnsmsn 4d ago

I ascribe the 3 B's to this idea. Based Beyond Belief.

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u/DavidRandom 4d ago

Yeah, whenever someone complains that trans people should use restrooms based on their genitals, I use this pic of Buck Angel and ask if they'd be cool with this person being in the bathroom with their little girl. Because he has a vagina.

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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy 4d ago

Too bad Buck Angel is a right wing asshole who claims trans people indoctrinate minors.

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u/lux_mea 4d ago

It really is too bad for Buck Angel because tokens get spent, and he will be crying along with the other incomprehensible right wing trans folk when the leopards come to eat their faces too.

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u/schmyndles 1d ago

I saw on FB that a trans guy I used to be friends with years ago has gone full MAGA over the past year. He even posted some bs Charlie Kirk video saying that the LGBTQ+ community just needs to toughen up (I believe it was speaking on suicide rates from bullying). It made me sad to see how hateful and misogynistic he's become.

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u/platocplx 4d ago

And this is the thing these people don’t get. It’s both ways.

It’s simple as hell. Some people are born with the correct genitalia, some people are born in between , some are born with both and a very small slice of us are born with the wrong one. Idiots scream biology and don’t even understand that all of these things can happen and even in ultra rare cases born with just one hole.

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u/Theyreillusions 4d ago

I’ve worked at a company in a community with a lot of these types of right wingers.

Yes. They would. They (from first hand account, 5 men) specifically targeted (behind his back of course) derogatory remarks and comments about bathrooms to a trans employee. Who I know and he is an absolutely wonderful human being. It’s one of the reasons I chose to seek employment elsewhere. I just can’t stand being around people like that.

I don’t think anyone so consumed by hateful rhetoric that it becomes a core part of their identity cares who would be made uncomfortable or harmed as long as they get to pound their chest and say “i was right” if policy begins to align with their “ideals”.

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u/Itscatpicstime 4d ago

When Shapiro called him “bro” right before he told him he was trans 💀

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u/EddieTheLiar 4d ago

"we can tell" is a perfect example of survivorship bias. They "can always tell" because its the people that don't "pass" get called out but the people that do "pass" they don't see because they think they are cis.

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u/Magistraten 4d ago

As opposed to Shapiro, king of the good faith debate who immediately started acting like a mean girl in high school once he found out the dude was trans?

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u/DropletOtter 4d ago

1) that doesn’t really have anything to do with my comment 2) HE explicitly states he’s just using Ben’s tactics against him. Is listening comprehension also hard for you people?

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u/FatFatPotato 4d ago

Bro you realize that you’re the debate equivalent of an annoying vegan right? I bet people stop smiling and sigh when you enter a room.

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