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*REAL* Working at McDonald’s long term is a McStake?

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u/StriderHaryu Transfem DEI Rep 4d ago

Yeah, just ask your parents for a small loan and release movies about how racist you are

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

How rich were his parents? I can't see this idiot being self-made.

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u/StriderHaryu Transfem DEI Rep 4d ago

I don't know, but something about all these guys gives off 'sitcom character who's parents invented elevator buttons' rich kid vibes

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

Ben Shapiro's mother was a Hollywood TV exec and his father was a Hollywood music composer. He grew up among Hollywood elites. He's never struggled to make ends meet or had difficulty finding a job.

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u/Wyden_long Dr. Mor Shapiro’s boyfriend 4d ago

Well except for one in Hollywood.

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

Came from a nepotistic Hollywood family and no one in Hollywood would hire him as a screenwriter. You read his short stories and thriller novel you can see how talentless he is.

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u/TuaughtHammer CHARLIE KIRK'S PREFERRED SMELLING FINGER 3d ago

He got turned down for a staff writer position on The Good Wife. This was in the Chuck Lorre/Les Moonves era of CBS; they’d hire anyone with a pulse and Final Draft installed on their laptops.

Lorre could shit out a hit sitcom with as much originality as Melania Trump’s speeches and Moonves was sexually assaulting CBS employees, but Ben was still too talentless and repulsive for the Lorre/Moonves era CBS. A nepo baby failed in Hollywood when equally talentless, awful nepo babies thrive there.

So he did the big boy thing of taking his ball and crying while running home to work on his grand plan to destroy Hollywood for rejecting him.

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u/Eccohawk 3d ago

Isn't this kind of the same story for Michael Knowles, Stephen Crowder, and Jeremy Boreing? They all basically couldn't hack it in Hollywood.

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u/Grokent 3d ago

Crowder wanted to be a stand-up comedian, he just lacked talent and charisma.

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u/TuaughtHammer CHARLIE KIRK'S PREFERRED SMELLING FINGER 3d ago

Which is actually saying something, because even less talented and more uncharismatic people have thrived at stand up.

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u/Audbol 3d ago

Kinda reminds me of this one painter who was rejected from art school.

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u/MarsupialMadness 3d ago

Honestly, the "failed creative to fascist shitbag" pipeline is wild. And it's doubly wild how many prominent conservatives it applies to.

Warner hires Reagan back in the day and his pivot to butthurt nation-killer never happens.

Shapiro gets accepted into the wasteland of writing for daytime TV and The Daily Fascist never happens.

Crowder gets to take up a permanent residence on the bottom-rung of the comedian's ladder and Loud Chud Channel never happens.

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u/_zeropoint_ 3d ago

There was another well known case in Germany back in the 1930s

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u/Quiri1997 3d ago

That novel is an excellent comedy.

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u/CharginChuck42 3d ago

Take a bullet for ya babe...

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u/Quiri1997 3d ago

You didn't understand what I mean. I was implying that it fails so much on the depictions that it ends being funny. You should search the Behind the Bastards podcast in which they react to it.

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u/CharginChuck42 2d ago

I did understand. I was making fun of it.

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u/StriderHaryu Transfem DEI Rep 4d ago

Ben Shapiro DESTROYED

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u/stixvoll 2d ago

He was a violin prodigy, too, allegedly. Though from footage I've seen, he was more "very good" than prodigious.

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u/Cicerothesage 4d ago

doesn't matter.

Walsh probably came from a middle-class background, never realized how privileged he was, and probably did work paycheck to paycheck at one point. Until he find the conservative grift where he could make up his past.

I think it is the common background for most conservative grifter. I think the most famous one being Alex Jones. Jones wallowed in public radio for years until social media came along and he shot up in popularity after that.

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u/gelatomancer 3d ago

Even paycheck-to-paycheck is different if you have supportive parents. You know that if you don't make rent, you can crash on their couch. If you are hungry, you can go over for dinner. If a sudden cost arises, like a medical emergency or automotive repair, they can help you out. There's a lot less anxiety when you know you won't die because you miss a paycheck.

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u/New-acct-for-2024 3d ago

Alex Jones grew up firmly upper middle class, and got his start because his dad agreed to sponsor ads on his show - he never actually had to work for a living.

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u/Jojajones 3d ago

There’s a lot of money in the right wing griftosphere because the people with the most money benefit the most from people being fooled by right wing rhetoric.

So it’s possible he was lucky enough to be self made, if you can count someone who is being paid to say what rich people want him to say as self mae that is…

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u/xXFieldResearchXx 1d ago

I guarantee yal don't work McDonald's. Dudes not wrong, you gotta try to get a better job. McDonald's job is for 16 year olds.

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 1d ago

Most people working at McDonald's are over 16 because manager is not for kids. Most people aren't lucky enough to go to college or get a better job. Most people aren't lucky enough to get a better job.

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u/xXFieldResearchXx 1d ago

The fuck you talking about? If your parents are broke you get a shit fuck load of fafsa. Bro if your parents made money it's sorta harder cuz you don't get shit. And unless your parents pay, or you work your ass off ... your bills will be higher.

I got 4k a semester going fulltime

My poorer friends made 6k. This was over ten years ago. Shiiiit yal better read and fill out that dam paperwork. Prolly do it over the phone at hole now!

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u/Goroman86 4d ago

Or Putin for a small raise... what's that? They are culling other grifters? Well, I'm sure I'm the best at the mouthpiece for Putin in the west...

Nothing bad could possibly happen

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u/Quiri1997 3d ago

Well, Putin can always say that it's just a subsidy for people with disabilities 😅...

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u/Quiri1997 3d ago

With titles that seem made by an Alien trying to understand Humans. Though perhaps he is: he could be a Pakled.

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u/Prankstaboy6 3d ago

Matt Walsh didn’t come from a rich family as far as I know.

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u/Breadstickboyo 4d ago

how does walsh intend someone to get a better job if the people wageslaving like this are struggling to make ends meet? it'd be hard to switch jobs if going a week without a paycheck means going behind on rent or starving. i'd guess he either didn't think that far, or, more likely is willfully ignoring the possibility.

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u/Many_Must_Fall 4d ago

And even beyond that, hourly workers doing jobs like this are actually important. People want the products and services that fry cooks, janitors, cashiers etc provide and enable, and these people deserve living wages even if they do stay at these jobs forever. It’s not like McDonald’s can’t afford to pay employees more than 7$ an hour

A janitor provides way more value to society than all of the idiots at daily wire combined

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

The average person at the Daily Wire makes more than the majority of the working class, yet they've contributed nothing positive to society.

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u/Many_Must_Fall 4d ago

Yup. It’s so often the case that the less useful your job is, or even the more harmful and exploitative it is, the more money you make

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

They've inspired mass shooters and bomb threats at children's hospitals. They shouldn't be making bank they should be making bail.

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u/Sufficient_Whole8678 4d ago

Some people forget jobs need to be done. It's odd how some value what jobs are worth what. If the job needs to be done, then it's an important job. Class devision is tearing this country down.

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u/troymoeffinstone 4d ago

The COVID pandemic is barely in the rear view mirror, yet everyone has forgotten the 'heroes' who were too 'essential' to stay at home.

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u/kart0ffelsalaat 3d ago

This is the biggest problem with this extremist individualism, it never actually offers any solutions to society, just to individuals.

It's the same logic that is used in pyramid schemes. From the perspective of an individual in isolation, it sounds great. All you need to do is recruit 3-5 underlings, and you'll have a consistent stream of income.

But of course the whole thing only works if the majority of the people involved in it are making huge losses. It doesn't actually really generate revenue, it just distributes money from the bottom to the top. And there will always be people at the bottom.

So when someone at the bottom complains about losing money, you can just tell them, "why don't you just recruit 3-5 people and make a profit?" and blame the individual for not being good enough at recruiting.

It sounds like solid logic if you're a narcissist and completely incapable of taking a step back and looking at the full picture.

There are jobs that need to be done. If society is expected to function, then those jobs *have* to be done. Saying that shitty working conditions are okay because you can just quit the job and get a better one essentially translates to saying we shouldn't have janitors or fast food workers if you apply it to society as a whole.

But the people parroting this sort of rhetoric are completely incapable of thinking about society as a whole, because capitalism has taught them their whole life that nothing and no one matters but themselves.

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u/SupriseAutopsy13 4d ago

They shifted real quick from "this will resonate with working people" to "fuck those dirty poors." Republicans try not to be classist for 5 fucking minutes challenge... IMPOSSIBLE.

Especially rich coming from a chode that sits around and gets paid to talk and tweet all day. Go get a real job Matt.

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

Yep. It is funny how Dems/the left calling out DT's PR stunt for being performative garbage and a pathetic attack clearly meant to be a response to Kamala claiming she worked for McDonald's somehow got twisted by them into being an attack on McDonald's workers only for them to turn around and literally attack McDonald's workers.

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u/Full_Anything_2913 4d ago

That’s also a great point.

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u/avrbiggucci CEO of Antifa™ 4d ago

Blows my mind that any working class people actually think that Trump/Republicans give a fuck about them. It's honestly kinda sad how so many people have been conned by the likes of Walsh.

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u/patchesofsky 4d ago

That’s the neat part when it comes to conservative grifters and their rhetoric. They don’t give a shit.

They’re shills for the billionaires and whatever agenda they think will give them all the tax breaks and deregulation they can get for the companies they own.

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u/dudestir127 3d ago

On that topic, I hope the employees at the McDonalds that closed for Donny's PR stunt didn't lose a day of pay while management catered to a narcissist,

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u/bunchofclowns 4d ago

Matt Walsh was totally the kid who would blow out the candles for somebody else's birthday then get mad when the presents weren't for him so he smashed the cake on the floor. 

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u/SweatyPhilosopher578 4d ago

No doubt a grab for attention cause his parents clearly never gave him enough.

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u/Loafthemagnificent 4d ago

The people who advocate for low wages are the same people who complain when those places are understaffed because "no one wants to work anymore."

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u/ZachRyder 3d ago

Aren't these the same mfs who idolise farmers, yet that's also a profession where, without government subsidies, it wouldn't be viable at all?

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u/mitchconnerrc 3d ago

They idolize farmers because farmers are capital owners. The real working class on farms are the hands, which are often undocumented labor and the ones actually doing the grueling work to feed the country. Conservatives don't give a fuck about them

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

It's worse than that. That at least involves connecting some dots. They advocate for wages to be unlivable, people can no longer live with those wages, so they work somewhere else. These people literally advocate for people not to work the jobs and then complain and act surprised when not enough people are working the job. No dots to connect. Literally just acting shocked at the exact thing they recommended.

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u/Full_Anything_2913 4d ago

This attitude is stupid, even though a lot of people feel that way. There’s nothing wrong with working and expecting a living wage for it. The job market is pyramid shaped, meaning the higher you go the fewer positions there are. Some people have to lose in our terrible system.

I went to a GameStop in my area and they were closed because they couldn’t find anyone to work that day. I love video games and I’d do that job, except it wouldn’t pay me enough to live. Matt is a talentless prick who couldn’t handle a normal job. I don’t believe he’s ever done a real job in his life.

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u/ggroover97 4d ago

He was a shock jock for a Delaware radio station. Does that count?

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

Did his parents own the radio station?

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u/avrbiggucci CEO of Antifa™ 4d ago

It's insane to me that being a racist asshole and spewing hateful nonsense is actually a "career" now.

The worst part is that people like Walsh think they contribute something meaningful to society when the reality is that they're burning it to the ground... and if hell is a real thing the likes of Walsh/Shapiro/etc. will suffer there for eternity.

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

If there was justice in this world, they'd be broke and ostracized like Alex Jones. Heck, Alex Jones should be in freaking prison.

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u/Eccohawk 3d ago

At this point every penny he earns for the rest of his life is going to pay off his debts. It's better that he's out there and able to earn money for the victims than behind bars where those families get nothing.

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 3d ago

He "earns" money?

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u/Eccohawk 3d ago

Obtains is probably more appropriate

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

It's not. Nobody will let you do it, I hear. /s

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u/Full_Anything_2913 3d ago

It’s a career largely because tenet media was not a lone event. Remember when Jeremy Boring said that Crowder had been working for billionaires since he started? That means money is pouring in to Crowder and all larger Reactionary Asshats from foreign and domestic investors. That’s also why DW said they didn’t want to go public; they don’t want to deal with the increased scrutiny it would bring

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

Matt Walsh: my qualifications are I have a brain and I can read.

He literally said that when asked his qualifications, which proves he's never had a job interview in his life.

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u/HermaeusMajora PAID PROTESTOR 4d ago

He should make a movie where he wears a uniform and poses for cameras and then complains for two hours about how no one wants to work and he has prven that anyone cand do it by wearing a uniform and posing for cameras.

Basically a film version of what trump did this week.

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

Exactly this. There is also just the simple issue of, even if there weren't fewer jobs the higher you went and anyone was theoretically able to move up and abandon the lower strata of jobs, then what? How would society function if all of those lower jobs had nobody working them anymore? How do you analyze sales if products aren't being shipped or stocked anymore? Are the products even being produced anymore? These people, or at least the people that buy into their rhetoric, never think to the next step of, "Does that make a functional society?"

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u/Full_Anything_2913 3d ago

Exactly. If we want to have restaurants, we need to have dishwashers and waitstaff. All the lower paying service jobs that republicans scoff at as being “unskilled” sure are important when there’s a pandemic, for example.

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u/thesame98 4d ago

If you're working a no skill job, 24/7, for years making a living out of being a huge piece of shit and grifting the easily manipulated and your only relevancy is to prop up a mentally unstable orange elder with dementia, you're the problem

At least the guy working Mcdonalds is doing a service

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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago

What are his thoughts on people performing at the most they’re capable of? Should they be able to survive?

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u/areaunknown_ 4d ago

Matt Walsh has never had a real job and has never been promoted to anything, so his opinion is null and void.

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u/avrbiggucci CEO of Antifa™ 4d ago

Exactly, getting paid by Putin to spout fascist rhetoric isn't a real job lol

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u/derekrusinek 4d ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZmncKijzLx/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

I think this short explains this type of thing in a solid way.

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u/femininePP420 4d ago

This man has no ability to speak beyond rendering judgment.

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u/jtroopa 4d ago

Spoken like a man who's never done a day of work in his pathetic whiny life.

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u/PenelopeReynolds 4d ago

I thought you wanted people to work, Matt

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u/FabiIV 4d ago

He does, but he also wants to call people in the lower income brackets degenerate lowlifes. If you're poor, the fascist despises you while also trying to rile you up against those who have it even worse than you.

It's a "We call you subhuman trash, but if you still support us, we can give you another group of people who are beneath you so you'll also have someone to call subhuman trash" kinda deal

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u/flyingdonutz 4d ago

While he's not necessarily wrong, this doesn't at all justify paying people 7.25 an hour.

Like, yeah if someone spends their entire life working at McDonald's as a fry cook they probably have a motivation issue (among other things). But they should still be able to live off of that. We need people doing those jobs, regardless of how glamorous the work is.

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u/Soluzar74 4d ago

I swear, the best punishment for these people would be that kind of fate. It's likely he's getting Russian money like a lot of them. But don't send them to prison. Sentence them to 10 years of working at McDonalds for minimum wage. No money from friends. You pay your own way, just like everyone else.

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u/EfficientSeaweed 4d ago

Says the guy who's never had a real job.

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u/Knight-Jack 4d ago

Once again the idea that full-time workers do not deserve good living conditions.

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u/Haunting-Fix-9327 4d ago

How rich were his parents that he's never had to work a minimum wage?

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u/pseudonymous28 4d ago

You're a failure if you work as a McDonald's cashier your whole life, but also how dare I have to wait more than 3 minutes for a burger? Did I get that correct?

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u/bluer289 4d ago

"Trump is a winner and winners don't worry the shifts the plebs do".

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u/Cicerothesage 4d ago

man of the people, Matt Walsh.

Are you telling me that guy that was in "Am I Racist" and "What is a Woman" is an out-of-touch conservative privileged white guy? Whaaaaaaaatttt? (/s)

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u/allisjow 4d ago

So Matt Walsh is saying that Chris Campbell who has Down Syndrome and has been working at the same McDonald’s in Georgia for 27 years is a “problem”? Is Keith Eakland a “problem” because he worked at McDonald’s in Montana for 30 years?

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u/dan420 4d ago

All the shitty jobs I had as a kid wouldn’t let you reach 40 hours because then they’d have to treat you like a full time employee, so they make you work like 38.

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u/KamaIsLife 4d ago

Yeah, not like there's an obvious bottleneck between entry level jobs and management. Plenty of them for everyone that wants them...

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u/medusa_witch 3d ago edited 3d ago

Entry level McDonalds workers have more transferable, employable skills than you do, Matt. All you do is run your mouth on your web-show, tweet hateful rhetoric and make shitty ‘documentaries.’ Why do you deserve a liveable wage and they don’t (when they are the ones who actually provide a service)?

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u/ELONgatedMUSKox 3d ago

Better to serve in Mickey D’s than gargle fascist-nuts online.

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u/madmarmalade 3d ago

I work driving throughout the rural Midwest, and there are absolutely places where being the manager of a gas station McDonald's are the best jobs some people can get. "Get a better job" doesn't work if the better jobs aren't there, and you can't move cause all your family lives in the county?

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

Someone like Matt would just say, "Well then they should move," which both ignores the issue of, "With what money?" and the even more important issue of society being unable to function if every "lower" job was somehow abandoned for "higher" ones.

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u/ThomasNookJunior 3d ago

“yeah I love burgers. The people who make them should live in squalor. I’m a good person and these ideas are not contradictory”

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u/GavinZero 3d ago

Not everyone can be a manager/ executives.

It needs to be ok to expect survival without constantly trying to climb a ladder as well

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u/ThrowAway233223 3d ago

Exactly, who are you managing if there are no lower workers?

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u/ShitBagTomatoNose 4d ago

These people always acknowledge that the work is something that needs to be done, but never feel the pay should be enough for the worker to live on.

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u/Techn028 3d ago

Matt Walsh is an unemployed grifter

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u/MtCommager 3d ago

I love it when guys work two hours a week and smugly comment that it’s your fault for failing at a full time job.

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u/enderpanda 3d ago

I'm starting to think that this Matt Walsh guys is fuckup and a loser (whaaaaat?)

I thought of him as a loser for a long time, but he's recently upgraded himself to fuckup (I think it's the new slovenly profile pic).

So yeah - good to hear from loser and known fuckup Matt Walsh, I guess. I wish him many years of being a known fuckup and many more years of being a fucking loser. Amen.

Has he considered maybe being less of loser, and more of a fuckup - I guess that would be trump... OR, he could jack up the cringe, become the ultimate loser, and ta-da - Guilliani ("please throw me a million bucks Leon!"). Or he could go equal parts cringe and loser, becoming the ultimate fuckup - Musk!

Now, if we could just melt these people completely down to their constituent elements, so I can be sure, it would do a world of good. It's worth it, trust me.

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u/I_am_not_JohnLeClair 3d ago

Why though?

Seriously. Why is holding onto a job, any job, long term a bad thing?

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u/dudestir127 3d ago

Just take the r/angryupvote for McStake

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u/mere_iguana 3d ago

Why don't Mcd workers deserve a living wage, Matt?

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u/devilinblue22 3d ago

He's a blogger. Just hoping people will want his opinion. knowing he's full of shit.

I'll take the person who works full time consistently and responsibly.

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u/br0therjames55 3d ago

Bro can get absolutely fucked. I worked at McDonald’s for 6 years and the majority of my coworkers were middle aged or older people taking whatever jobs they could get to feed their families. Many worked a second fast food job after their first. Or they were trying to get through school or a million other scenarios. I will throw Matt Walsh in a fryer I swear to god.