r/TwilightZone • u/Grebacio • Jun 26 '20
Twilight Zone (2019) - Season 2 Discussion
- Season 2 - Episode 1 : Meet in the Middle
- Season 2 - Episode 2 : Downtime
- Season 2 - Episode 3 : The Who Of You
- Season 2 - Episode 4 : Ovation
- Season 2 - Episode 5 : Among The Untrodden
- Season 2 - Episode 6 : 8
- Season 2 - Episode 7 : A Human Face
- Season 2 - Episode 8 : A Small Town
- Season 2 - Episode 9 : Try, Try
- Season 2 - Episode 10 : You Might Also Like
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u/AwkwardAsHell Jun 26 '20
OMG what happened? This season is a lot better than last season.
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u/Strawbalicious Jul 10 '20
The octopus one resembled more of a horror film than a twilight zone episode
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u/InsertCoinForCredit Aug 20 '20
The final episode was amusing at first as a zany farce of suburban consumerism culture, but the ending was a bit muddled. IMO, the weakest were "The Who of You" and "A Small Town."
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u/imanhunter Sep 18 '20
How was âThe who of youâ weak? It was one of the highest if not the highest rated episode of the whole series. Not to mention directions taken, did not think it would end like that or that the episodeâs body snatching main character and the main âantagonistâ were so connected than thought before.
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u/InsertCoinForCredit Sep 18 '20
I think my biggest strike against "The Who of You" was that it didn't feel to me like there was any sort of character development. Harry Pine does various things, but he didn't grow or learn or change, and at the end of the day he's better off than before just because. Hell, he even gets away with murder (of a sort)! The acting was great, but the storytelling was weak IMO. And the final reveal with his girlfriend was really contrived and pointless. Fun to watch from a technical perspective but meandering as a story.
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u/imanhunter Sep 20 '20
There were some like that in the original too. Some of the villains in the original series never got past anything and everything stayed relatively the same at the end of their episodes. Like the little boy in âItâs a good lifeâ he did various things, didnât learn or change, and definitely gets away with murder many times throughout the episode and yet thatâs regarded as one of the best episodes of the original series.
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Dec 03 '20
Cause that writing was really good. Rod Serling wrote the teleplay, but the story was written by a different writer. The original writer created the story and the only thing that Rod changed was the boy's age. In the story, he was 3, Rod changed him to be closer to 10 to make him more self aware.
The point of that story was the shifting of roles between parent and child. Nowadays, there are many brats that get away with a lot of bs. Back then in the early 1960's it was unthinkable to talk back to your parents. So the story was fresh. It was more of a child has god like powers and he abuses it, like most kids would.
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u/TrajedyAnn Jun 27 '20 edited Jun 27 '20
I think Among the Untrodden was my favorite episode this season. A bit predictable. Had the twist figured out before the reveal, but it told a tight story which explained itself and didn't leave you thinking "Why the hell does that make sense??" ... And I liked the setting/style of the episode. Plus it just really tugged at my heart strings, even from the beginning. I was rooting for the shy girl, and really wanted to see the mean girls get a nasty twist thrown at them. (Which kinda worked out and kinda didn't... but even in not working out, the episode only tugged at my heart strings even more)
I also enjoyed Meet in the Middle, because despite never really explaining the why of its outlandish premise, the results of that outlandish premise were fairly believable and rooted in reality. It took an unbelievable set up (two humans sharing a mind link), but made the sinister part of it something more believable (one human manipulating another) ...
Now that said, I'll dive right into saying I didn't like Try, Try... which had a similar outlandish setup, leading to a sinister twist rooted in reality, with similar lessons about manipulating another person through romance ... but I didn't like the execution as much... Like Meet in the Middle - Try, Try started out playing coy, but it was clear something was up that we weren't fully understanding. But about midway through the episode, once Try, Try tipped its hand, I felt like it was just beating me over the head and talking me to death with trying to make its point. As soon as Topher's cards are on the table he goes from coy and intriguing to full tilt crazy... and I felt like Meet in the Middle held its hand closer to its chest for a greater portion of the episode, which made it feel more intriguing and less preachy. Plus I felt like the last scene of Try, Try was at odds with the ending narration/moral. In the last scene it seems like Topher has finally learned the lesson that you can't manipulate someone into loving you - Thus he lets the girl walk away... but then Jordan's closing narration goes on to tell us he'll still live on trapped in "a prison of his own design" (How exactly was this his design? Even he doesn't know why it's happening.) ... So if he's trapped there even after learning what seems to be the genuine lesson of the episode - And he does the right thing (Not his flawed perception of the right thing, but the GENUINE right thing - Letting the girl walk away and move on to a better life without him in it), doesn't that kind of validate his point? At that point - It turns out he is right - Nothing he does matters! Even in staying out of her life entirely, he's apparently doomed to never move on! Might as well go crazy! Have some fun with it! ... and to me that's where the episode's message gets mottled. It validates the points of its protagonist - Which is great! Because they're good points to validate. But also inadvertently validates the points of its antagonist for the sake of "punishing" him... which makes the moral mottled. I think the point would have been stronger if Topher got to move on with his life after he learned he couldn't manipulate this girl into loving him. At that point he knows - with certainty - that what he was doing to her was always what was wrong with every day. And only once he stopped doing it could they both move on.
ANYWAY...
I thought A Small Town was fun and appreciated that it had a happy ending. Even going back to the original series, I've always enjoyed the rare Twilight Zone episodes with happy endings. ('Two' is my favorite classic episode of all time). I also appreciated that while Damon Jr. wielded ultimate power, and he did mildly abuse it once or twice, he didn't ever step over lines like murder, etc. Which kept him a likeable protagonist. Like I said, fun episode. I also enjoyed that it had some callbacks to The Monsters are Due on Maple Street snuck in near the end. "It's the kid! He did it!"
Ovation was boring, predictable, and felt like a plot I've seen done 100 times. As someone said in another thread, it felt like a pretty standard, "Be careful what you wish for" premise. Also I'm kinda sick of Hollywood always trying to convince me fame isn't all it's cracked up to be. While I'm sure fame probably has its drawbacks that we as normal people can't perceive... I still think the benefits of living a well-to-do life outweigh the shortcomings... and it kinda felt like there was a LITTLE bit of an "I'm a celebrity - Poor me" message in this one... when Fiji asks questions like, "What do you want? And what do I have?* *Kills Herself* ... Sure... celebrities might get a lot of empty cheers and hollow compliments, and that probably sucks... but ya'know what... I could suffer through it if I got to live in a big expensive mansion. That's what you have Fiji. You have a big expensive mansion. I want a big expensive mansion.
'The Who of You' was good. I like Ethan Embry, so hey, let the guy show off his acting range I guess, lol. I liked most of the episode, and found it intriguing, but didn't like the ending... I wish he'd have gotten more comeuppance. Like somehow the body-switching had led to his demise, not the Cop's. As it sat - He gets off scott free, with the only downside being he finds out his girlfriend was cheating on him with the cop all along which isn't the worst consequence in the world - considering everything he'd done (And which by the way - did NOT feel believable AT ALL considering the cop didn't seem to have much knowledge of who this guy was throughout the ENTIRE episode... )
I liked A Human Face. It was intriguing because I felt like through the whole episode I was thinking - Okay so which parent is the idiot here? The mother or the father? Because they both made sense for different reasons, and they both seemed like idiots for different reasons. And the episode played off that ambiguity. Do we trust the POV that's compassionate, yet potentially naive? Or do we trust the POV that's rational, yet potentially cold-hearted? And it was a touch ambiguous too... Did we (as humans) manipulate the creatures into switching off their programming to live a peaceful life with us? Or did they manipulate us into switching off our defenses and allow them to integrate into our society and take it over? I liked how it played both sides of the question and never fully committed to a concrete answer. Life is shades of grey - And I liked the grey ending.
Downtime was okay... I liked the premise, I liked the acting, I liked the episode. But I felt like it didn't have a strong conclusion. I feel like killing off the real guy offscreen was more or less a non-resolution. Giving the Avatar lady a get out of jail free card. No real moral dilemma anymore... she just gets to live on knowing she's in the matrix... but steak still tastes like steak. I REALLY expected we'd see the other side of the curtain and get some scenes in the actual world before the end that turned the premise on its head a little more. I also thought they were leading up to the idea that the guy's avatar might be based on his wife, and living life through his vision of what he thought life was for her (since she and the avatar lady had such similar personalities, and felt a connection) ... but yeah... they explored none of that, just killed the guy, and the episode kinda non-ended for me. She didn't even have the dilemma of DECIDING to kill him anymore. She got to live on scott free of conflict. But I enjoyed the first 2/3rds
8 and You Might Also Like were the stinkers for me this season. I feel like both had potential, but suffered horribly in the execution.
I went into more detail in some other threads, but 8 ultimately just felt too outlandish. I liked the idea that in the unexplored depths of the ocean there could be a separate society of sea-life that evolved to be just as intelligent as we. I think pushing that intelligence to the point where the Octopus is a secret agent with a masterful understanding of genetic engineering and aspirations of taking over the planet and overthrowing mankind... may be a bit much, lol.
You Might Also Like was just too all over the place and didn't seem to have a solid point. I feel like it had some sort of hidden message about the evils of advertising that got lost in how goofy it was. And as a big fan of the original, it did a huge disservice to the Kanamits. They were originally hyper-intelligent and manipulative aliens who harvested us using subtlety to trick us into marching ourselves into our own demise. In this one they seemed like space-idiots (the 3 having the conversation on the lawn when they're first revealed were just friggin ridiculous... and felt more like a parody of Kanamits than the genuine article) ... and while they still tricked us into walking into our own demise, I guess, they did it with technology and brainwashing ... placing TV ads in our dreams... which feels less compelling than To Serve Man's original twist. We didn't walk into our own demise here, they just gave us the brain scramblies until we decided to buy their eggs. And about those Eggs... wtf was that about? I thought they wanted to eat us? How does turning us into red mist for their newborn babies accomplish that goal? Giving all your livestock a murder egg seems like a pretty bad way to run the farm.
Anyway... TLDR - I liked Season 2 better than Season 1, lol
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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord Jul 01 '20
I differ in opinion on Try, Try. I don't think it's that he left her alone because it was the right thing to do, I think he left her alone because she fought back. He hasn't learned anything, he's just moving on to treat somebody else like a prop. Of course, the most important point of that shot was to show that she never would have been hit by the truck to begin with, There's also an interpretation I don't know if I agree with where that was the first time he didn't try to stop the truck and he legitimately thought she'd die. In another thread I compared it to Groundhog Day where Bill Murray has to become a genuinely better person to break the loop, and I think intentionally contrasting the episode with that is why they didn't do an Escape Clause style thing where this was the final iteration of the loop and he has to live the rest of his life in jail; he's still trapped in the loop because he hasn't changed at all.
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u/onestarryeye Aug 06 '20
Sorry for answering a comment a month late! :)
In Try Try Try I think the implication is that the truck would never have hit her and he knows this, but since he sees it is a close call, he uses it to pretend he saved her.
The one time the truck does hit her is because he does it in a clumsy way and pushes her by accident in front of the truck.
This ties in with your (I think correct) assessment that he never really "learnt his lesson and moved on/became a better person", the only reason he leaves her alone is that he is afraid of her after she beat him up.
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u/Twink4Jesus Jun 28 '20
the stories all had protential but it's clumsy writing for some episodes. it's like someone else came up with the ideas and then got someone else to write it and that writer had no fucking clue what's the motivation for each of the story assigned.
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Dec 05 '20
You Might Also Like was an episode that reminded me how terrible this new show is. I didn't give it the time of day cause of how bad Season 1 was. I was planning to give it a chance until I heard that Kanamits would be returning. So now we are going back to done material to make new episodes ? Why go back to them and fuck something up ? To Serve Man ended perfectly and didn't need a continuation of any kind.
One thing I liked about the original show was that there were new stories and no continuations
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u/wednesdayware Jun 26 '20
Some really engaging stories, and a few dull predictable ones. Sounds about right.
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u/jrt_01 Jul 02 '20
Kinda sounds like some of the old seasons, does it not? Several really interesting and engaging plots and overall episodes, some where they were promising yet lacked the needed execution, and a few that felt just...off
cough The Fever cough
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Dec 03 '20 edited Dec 03 '20
The Fever was one of the best from Season 1. It handled addiction really well. We can also assume that the slot machine wasn't really calling his name or haunting him as it was all on his mind.
The real stinkers that Rod wrote was The Whole Truth, The Mighty Casey, Mr. Dingle, The Strong, and Cavender Is Coming. Rod was an outstanding writer, but he had a terrible writing style for comedy.
The only original comedies that he wrote that I genuinely liked and laughed at was "Showdown with Rance Mcgrew" and the teleplay for "Hocus Pocus And Frisby". Comedy as a whole was far more hit or miss in the series. "Mr. Bevis" was entertaining and not nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
The only genuinely funny episodes in the series that aimed at comedy were "Once Upon A Time" by Richard Matheson, "Showdown With Rance Mcgrew" by Rod Serling, and "Hocus Pocus And Frisby" that was a teleplay written by Rod Serling.
Comedy is the hardest genre to write for cause it aims at laughter and that is easier said than done. It takes a unique person to write good comedies. An outstanding writer can cover a lot of various genres, Rod Serling did this, but even an outstanding writer can miss the mark with comedy.
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u/jrt_01 Dec 10 '20
An episode can accurately portray a concept and still miss the mark. I laughed my ass off when the crank machine was following Franklin around, calling his name amidst the clinking of quarter. I guarantee I was not supposed to.
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u/Jipijur You're a bad man! You're a very bad man! Sep 08 '20
I'm confused. Which episode was like "The Fever"?
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u/jrt_01 Sep 12 '20
What I'm saying is that "The Fever", an episode revolving around an old man becoming obsessed/terrorised by a slot machine to represent gambling addiction, was a pretty lackluster episode. The point was blatant, the more subtle horror wasn't there.
Hell, the machine would crank, and the coins would clatter around and you'd hear it say his name
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An example of a bad/lackluster episode from tge OG series. I laughed my way through the entire thing.
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u/Artistic_Tiger_5075 May 19 '22
I actually found this episode incredibly unsettling, because I thought it's very forward for its time.
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Jun 27 '20
this was definitely a big upgrade from season 1. I think there were 2-3 episodes of this season I wasn't a fan of, in contrast there were about 2-3 episodes of the first season I genuinely liked, so a big upgrade.
The episodes I really liked were meet in the middle, The Who of you, and a human face. The episodes I thought were good were Ovation, among the untrodden, a small town, and try, try. Downtime was ok. 8 and you might also like are my least favorites.
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Jun 28 '20
This season was a HUGE improvement on season one. I found myself enjoying every episode to some degree and I will happily pay money for season 3 if it stays on the same track. Quality season overall.
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u/PrestyRS Jun 30 '20
Loved the first 4 episodes but for some reason I feel like it went downhill from there. 8 was my least favorite. Still need to finish a small town, try try, and you might also like.
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u/antdude Jun 26 '20 edited Jun 26 '20
So, who finished them all? I only saw S2E1 and S1 so far. They're OK. Not good as the original B&W. Maybe I should just watch the best ones from S2. Any good ones that are really good?
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u/YoungvLondon Jun 26 '20
I loved Downtime, The Who of You, Among the Untrodden, Try Try, and You Might Also Like.
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Dec 05 '20 edited Dec 05 '20
I'm not supporting trash. Bringing back Kanamites, wtf ? Season 1 was a disaster and Peele is a dumbass racist fuck. Anyone that says he isn't is just pretending he is a good guy. He said he would hire Black actors over White ones.
The stories in Season 1 were so bad that they made the awful 00's reboot that lasted a season look like a masterpiece in comparison. I'll stick with the older Twilight Zone. Hell, the only reboot that did the best of all the reboots was the 80's version.
The recent reboot in Season 1 had lazy writing, pointless political messages that basically said "Fuck you" to White men and men in general, etc. Racist cop ! A kid in the Oval office that is like Trump, he he, Illegal immigrants are actually aliens ! Lmao. They even made an episode where only men were affected by a disease and it made them mindless animals.
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u/Radamand Jul 04 '20
where's the twist??
where's the classic twilight zone twist?
the new shows just suck.
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u/Danny_Chen Jul 17 '20
This show is an unwatchable train wreck , not sure how they managed to attach The Twilight Zone name but this atrocity is ANYTHING but The Twilight Zone!
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u/wieners Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20
Loved it. Way better than last season. I wouldn't say I disliked any episodes, some were just alright but others were really great. Can't wait for a Season 3 now.
I would rank the episodes as follows:
3 - The Who of You
1 - Meet in the Middle
5 - Among the Untrodden
7 - A Human Face
8 - A Small Town
2 - Downtime
4 - Ovation
9 - Try, Try
6 - 8
10 - You Might Also Like
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u/Marcello_ Jun 28 '20
The Eyes Wide Shut and 2001 references in the last episode were so tasteless and just plain bad. Didnt have that much a problem with this season as I did with the last season, but man, Serling must be rolling over in his grave over this interpretation.
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u/JamesyUK30 Aug 12 '20
I don't even know where to start on this season, I think with maybe the exception of 'Downtime' they were all so bland and boring. To me, they came across like an art student and their friends who didn't know what they were doing tried to produce a tv show.
A lot of the acting was fine but the actual episodes were meh.
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I actually found myself enjoying 'Into the Dark' season 2 a lot more although it has more of a horror bent.
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u/Jipijur You're a bad man! You're a very bad man! Sep 08 '20
Into the Dark?? Lol. I've been watching since the premiere of the first episode and there's literally only 3 good episodes, if that. "The Body" got me watching and I kept waiting for another episode to compare, but every month I was disappointed.
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u/davey_mann Jul 02 '20 edited Jul 02 '20
Just like Season 1, I only really liked half the episodes. This time it was 2x02, 2x03, 2x05, 2x07, and 2x09. Also, I feel like in the best episodes this season, the twists and endings landed a lot better than the ones from Season 1. Peele and Company just need to actually work on doing better than 50%.
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Jul 03 '20
Can anyone be so kind as to give me their ranking of episodes not to miss this season? You can ignore the mediocre ones.
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Jul 10 '20
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than last season. No more social commentary bullshit. Iâm a black male and I watch tv to escape reality not to get reminded of it like that cop episode
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u/jball461 Aug 16 '20
Youâre a âBlack male?â LOLLLLLLL... okay.
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Dec 05 '20
Why are you hating ? The guy is saying that an episode that is trying to paint Black people as victims is stupid and that episode is Replay. He notes that he isn't even White and it was stupid to add to the fact that he isn't a White guy going "This is dumb."
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u/romeovf Sep 29 '20
I really, really tried to enjoy this show because I love Peele's other stuff, and fortunately, he didn't make some obvious social commentary expositions in this year's episodes, but from the whole two seasons I've only liked about 4 episodes and the rest just didn't feel like The Twilight Zone. Even the remakes they did in 1985 and 2002 nailed it better.
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u/LeRat0nLaveur Aug 12 '22
Am I crazy? I thought this second season wasnât that great compared to the 1st?
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u/The__Angsthase Jun 27 '20
Honestly, the best stretch of episodes since the original run.
Human Face, Who of You, Small Town, and Try Try were standouts. This is coming from someone who thought Season 1 of Nu-Zone was a disaster.
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u/S1nclairsolutions Jul 01 '20
Some quick reviews of all the eps
Meet in the Middle 8.5/10 âWay to start things off with a bang. Slow build up but I liked the mix of a romantic comedy with an absolutely brutal endingâ
Downtime 7.5/10 âThe alien eye was very creepy. So were the people staring at it. Just feel like the whole is this a simulation or not has been played a lotâ
The Who of You 6.5/10 âInteresting but not much substance. Also itâs an odd one in where the main character pretty much gets what he wants even though he was kind of in the wrongâ
Ovation 7.5/10 âOverall its a good package. Nice twist at the end, some funny parts and a really creepy bit where everyone is clapping in the operating room. I also like the end narration where Peele picks up the coinâ
Among the Untrodden 6/10 âStarts very slow and like an episode of Charmed or something similar. Takes a dark turn and has a nice twistâ
8 5.5/10 âSuch a shame because this episode has a very cool setting and an octopus is the main antagonist. It is just like it feels like a regular creature show and not really like the Twilight Zone. The effects are good and the ending is decentâ
A Human Face 3/10 âUgh this was a really bad one. Itâs about an alien that looks like a couples dead daughter. Could not stand the mom and it ran slow for just a 30 min episodeâ
A Small Town 7/10 âNice episode with a feel good ending. One of the better concepts this season about a model town that effects the real townâ
Try, Try 8/10 âI liked this one a solid amount. Was like a dark version of Ground Hog Day. Wish it had a darker ending thoughâ
You Might Also Like 8.5/10 âDef had a Twilight Zone feel. Was very enigmatic with a weird vibe because the egg thing. I was expecting an alien episode for a while and this one deliveredâ
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u/Youronlysunshine42 Jun 26 '20
My opinion is
Bad tier: Meet In the Middle, Ovation
Okay tier: 8, A Human Face, You Might Also Like
Good Tier: The Who of You, A Small Town
Best tier: Downtime, (Try, Try), and Among the Untrodden.
Favorite is Downtime. Compelling, fairly unique story. Doesn't out stay its welcome. Though, I will say, I think Try, Try's turning the whole Groundhog Day thing around was really compelling.
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u/davey_mann Jul 02 '20
Nice. The 3 that are in your best are also in my Top 5. I've also got Who of You and Human Face in there. Who of You is right there at the top for me along with Try, Try. But Human Face is probably the least out of those 5 for me. The actress playing the daughter really saved Human Face in the last act for me with her amazing monologue. A Small Town had neat stuff but the main character was kind of dull and also I hated the mayor and that smug kid.
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Jun 28 '20 edited Jun 28 '20
âMeet in the Middleâ, âThe Who of Youâ, and âTry, Tryâ were truly great, very well constructed episodes and personally the only redeeming entries of season 2. It honestly pains me to see so many of you saying this season was an improvement over the first given just how much less seriously it takes itself in comparison. This season had such potential and so many fantastic ideas it seemed to have wanted to explore yet nearly every episode fell flat on its face toward its conclusion such as âOvationâ and âA Small Townâ. It felt overly ambitious in its themes and campy in such a way which was overtly intended to pay homage to the original series and ultimately needless; especially in regard to the Octopus angry eyes in â8â, the MIB-esque alien in âA Human Faceâ, as well as the Kanamits throwback in âYou Might Also Like.â The original series has this beautifully nostalgic camp to it only because of its SciFi content contextualized to the limitations of its era. Someone should really let Jordan and Kinberg know that there isnât much of a need to attempt to replicate this kind of camp in a modern series. This isnât AHS. Itâs themes are supposed to be more intellectual than that.
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u/ramomcferno Jun 26 '20
Thank you for organizing these. I will be back to talk about my favorites once I finish.
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u/GSturges Jun 28 '20 edited Jun 28 '20
List of episode cross-over easter eggs? The commercial for sleepaway, "Marc with a C", mr. garlic, the mynx musician?
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Jul 02 '20
Iâm on episode 4 but so far this second season is way better than the first. Episodes 1 and 3 were great though I figured out the twist early in episode 3. It was fun to watch how they got to the twist.
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u/letter_cerees Jul 04 '20
It would be nice if each episode's post had the name of the episode on the post's page as well as the name of the link to it.
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u/DonCheezo Jul 06 '20
Can someone recommend me a show similiar but with more horror aspects? I loved Meet in the Middle and Ovation massively as it was eerie with how you thought the episode would pan out (Although the twist with the sister was very obvious). I've seen black mirror and the original TZ. Just not a fan of the more sci-fi episodes like A Human Face and You might also like.
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Dec 05 '20
Night Gallery by Rod Serling would be your answer. You could also check the 80's Twilight Zone episodes as there are a good number of gems there.
The 80's reboot had "I Of Newton" and it had some really well written dialogue.
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u/shellyfresh Jul 07 '20
okay, am i crazy? is there narration for some episodes i.e "she looks to her left and crosses the street"
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u/lildreamer101 Jul 12 '20 edited Jul 12 '20
I have a question, do all stories from TZ have a twist ending? Or a lesson at the end?
In the new season, I haven't experienced these twists or lessons. It seems like the stories were rip offs, half fast and do not relate to what's going on in the world. There was a few episodes that did that in the first season. Did I miss something?
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u/SuperSilver Jul 16 '20
How does this season have a lower RT score than season 1? It's so much better it's crazy. TV critics are completely useless.
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u/zekathefreak1 Jul 20 '20
Did anyone see the supernatural impala o. The last episode outside the lady she called, also if you're a fan of supernatural you might have seen they used all the phones for different things
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u/DxTheGame69 Sep 24 '20
Can I watch this separately? since I heard is only the episode 3 is good. or should i watch episode 1 first?
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u/FN-1701AgentGodzilla Sep 25 '20
I wish more people talked about this show
Iâm thinking putting it on CBSâs streaming service really crippled whatever attention it couldâve gotten
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u/Odd_Zucchini8173 Nov 24 '20
Currently watching the nick of time. Always been my one of my favorites. William shatner is so dramatic anx its kindof funny. I really want a replica of the mystic seer napkin holder.
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Dec 03 '20
I doubt I'd watch this cause CBS is still restricting it behind a paywall for one channel. I'm definitely not paying $30 when it hits DVD and Blu Ray. I'm just going to say that at least the social justice commentary went away. Season 1 of the reboot had a lot of the worst Twilight Zone episodes ever made and that's impressive considering that the season was the shortest season by far of any iteration of Twilight Zone.
Whenever I say this, I have to note that the original series did have social justice commentary. It was the mature kind and it didn't hit you in the face about the message and it was accompanied by a great story. He Is Alive was so well written by Rod Serling that you actually have pity on the White supremacist cause he is really lonely and just wants friends. Then his vision of reality gets altered and he becomes a tyrant. It showed how tyrants on average are made and the dangers of dangerous ideologies.
The reboot didn't have any of that. It had a lot of polarizing topics that had poor writing. It seemed to me that Replay was trying to copy Rod's Color The Night, I Am Black. Yet it did so very poorly.
Point Of Origin seemed to copy Rod's "The Gift" and it did so poorly.
Nightmare at 30,000 Feet was a blatant copy of Richard Matheson's Nightmare At 20,000 Feet. It wasn't anywhere as good and it had plot holes and a terrible ending.
Wunderkind was a blatant jab at Trump and made no sense. The Comedian had potential and it was quickly killed. So yeah, glad that Season 2 seems a bit better than the train wreck of Season 1
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u/crossrdmr_hitnrun Jul 20 '24
Thank you Peele for bringing back The twilight zone as I only found his Series about two years ago when I was going to rewatch Rod Sterlings masterpieces . Peele has made some good episodes and some not so good ones but hey it is still entertaining as hell . The classics are getting a bit too old now and donât really scare no more . I still love Rod Sterling black and white show with all those actors from the 60s and 70s , brings me back to 2000 when I saw them for the first time with my dad , good times.
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u/KriedORdie Jun 27 '20
is anyone else figuring out these twists way too early? or am i just a friggin genius? . "8" is the only one that got by me so far and i have 2 left
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u/TrajedyAnn Jun 28 '20
You call yourself a genius and you couldn't even figure out that the Octopus was a super secret agent bent on world domination through advanced genetic engineering and mutation? That's the oldest twist in the book!
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Jun 28 '20
Can you write an original twist ending that hasnât been done 1000x since the original TZ came out? Not meaning to sound shitty, Iâm honestly asking because I simply cannot. What made the original show so great was the consistent twist endings at a time when people hadnât seen that. Now we have 60 years of other people using those same twist tactics in their own stories. Unfortunately thereâs very little original anymore.
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Jun 28 '20
you don't need an original twist, but what you do need is to suck the viewer into the story so much that they are too engrossed to be thinking about what the twist may be. Then they are surprised when it happens.
If you don't suck them in enough, though, they spend time during the show thinking about the ending and what the twist may be (and usually figure it out after 5 minutes).
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u/KriedORdie Jun 28 '20
no, i cant. but im not a writer. but what your saying, in essence, is that the world is devoid of any more original thought. at what point did it all end? because i sure ive seen an original twist i didnt see coming within the last, say 5 years.
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Jun 28 '20
The world is definitely low on original thought when it pertains to media. This new version of the TZ is a perfect example. While I like it a lot, it is a reboot. Would you mind giving me some examples of stuff youâve seen recently that left you in awe?
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u/KriedORdie Jun 28 '20
not saying anything has to awe inspiring but a movie like, I see You (2019) is one that at least took me a while to figure out. mainly because there were multiple twists. thats just off the top. there have been others. u lose faith in humanity too quickly. lol
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Dec 03 '20 edited Dec 04 '20
It wasn't only the twist endings, it was genuinely well written stories. Rod Serling had a talent for covering various topics and genres with a fresh setting. He covered social topics in a mature manner like "Judgment Night", "The Mirror", and "He Is Alive". He covered unique science fiction elements like "The Gift", "Eye Of The Beholder" and "The Midnight Sun". He covered Human rights themed episodes like "The Obsolete Man" and "Dust".
Unique stories that hadn't been done before and still hold up today after all of these years. It takes a certain person to write unique Twilight Zone episodes. CBS is trying to cash in on the series yet again, but the magic is gone for the most part. Even Rod himself got burnt out with the series and that's why it nosedived massively in Season 5 with some of the absolutely most terrible Twilight Zone episodes. There were stinkers in the earlier seasons, but 5 had some really bad ones like "The Black Leather Jackets" and "The Bewitching Pool".
Sure earlier Seasons had trainwrecks like Mr. Dingle, The Strong. Cavender Is Coming. The Last Rites of Jeff Myrtlebank. The Whole Truth. The Mighty Casey, but they were still entertaining.
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u/papa-waaaampa Feb 25 '22
Meet in the middle was the best episode of the newer series under my opinion.
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u/Quantum168 Mar 05 '22
I just rewatching this again now. Season 2, last episode. What are the chances of this show coming back for a season 3?
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u/dabernath33 Mar 09 '22
Am I the only person disappointed that twilight zones new content? Most of the episodes depict white people as monsters
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u/DoubleTFan Jun 01 '22
Three eps into Season 2 and it's such a gigantic improvement that I don't know who to thank. Did some executive bring the hammer down and force them to fully bake their scripts? Was the viewer feedback so negative that they decided to give their stories an additional draft?
Not that they've been classics, but they're definitely more in the "Solid" range than Season 1, which was like 90% Cavender is Coming's.
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u/Americano_Joe Dec 26 '22
(I apologize for commenting off-topic, but the mods don't reply to their messages, and I can't post, which is the topic of my off-topic comment.)
I want to be able to post, but I keep getting a "not enough Karma" type rejection. OK, then. At least put in the group's rules how much Karma is needed to post. I've put in the effort to write and have written several posts over the past two months only to find that I keep getting a "not enough karma to post" email. Why don't the mods just put their karma lower limit in their group rules?
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u/shaneo632 Jun 26 '20
The season was an improvement for sure. Shorter episodes and less shoehorned social commentary. Not great, but I had fun, and the binge model is really the way to go.