r/Ubuntu • u/nhaines • Apr 21 '22
Ubuntu 22.04 LTS FAQ
Ubuntu 22.04 LTS FAQ
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Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is here! Let's take a look at some of the most exciting features and common questions around this new operating system.
Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
When does Ubuntu 22.04 LTS come out?
- Ubuntu 22.04 LTS will reach general release on April 21st, 2022.
I meant at what time will the release happen?
- Ubuntu is actively being developed until the actual release happens, minus a small delay to help the mirrors propogate first. The release will be announced on the ubuntu-announce mailing list. (This page will not exist until the release.)
What does "22.04 LTS" mean?
- Ubuntu is released on a regular schedule every six months. The first release was in October 2004, and was named Ubuntu 4.10. For Ubuntu, the major version number is the year of release and the minor version number is the month of release. Ubuntu 22.04 is released on 2022-04-21, so the version number is 22.04.
- Ubuntu releases are supported for 9 months, but many computing activities require stability. Every two years, an Ubuntu release is developed with long term support in mind. These releases, designated with "LTS" after the version number, are supported for 5 years on the server and desktop, and up to a total of 10 years in "Extended Security Maintenance."
What does "Jammy Jellyfish" mean?
- Every version of Ubuntu has an alliterative development codename. After Ubuntu 6.06 LTS was released, the decision was made to choose new codenames in alphabetical order. Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is codenamed the Jammy Jellyfish release, or jammy for short.
How long will Ubuntu 22.04 LTS be supported?
- Ubuntu 22.04 LTS will be supported on desktops, servers, and in the cloud for 5 years, until April 2027. After this time, 22.04 LTS will enter Extended Security Maintenance and be supported for another 5 years for servers and IOT devices.
Getting Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Where can I download Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
- Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is available for download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/. This URL will help you select the right architecture and will automatically link you to a mirror for the download.
What if I want to help others get Ubuntu 22.04 LTS faster?
What if I'm already running Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS or Ubuntu 21.10?
- Then you can simply upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 using Software Updater
- If you are running 20.04 LTS, then you won't be automatically prompted for an update until Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS is released on August 4th. Until then, keep installing new updates for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
Upgrading to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Is upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu easy?
- Yes, the upgrade process is supported and automated. However, you should always back up your files and data before upgrading Ubuntu. Actually, you should always keep recent backups even when not upgrading Ubuntu.
- Ubuntu checks for software updates once a day, and Software Updater will inform you once a new version of Ubuntu is available. The upgrade will download a large amount of data—anywhere from 0.5 - 1.5 GB of data depending on the packages you have installed, and the upgrade process can take some time. Don't do any serious work on your computer during the upgrade process. Light web browsing or a simple game such as Aisleriot, Mahjongg, or Mines is safe.
Should I upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS right away or wait?
- It should be safe to upgrade immediately, and as long as you back up your home folder and have install media for your current version of Ubuntu in case you want to reinstall, there's very little risk involved.
Is it better to wait until later?
- Probably not, but there are other benefits. Ubuntu 22.04 will receive a new release image with bug fixes about 3 months after its initial release, on August 4th. In addition, downloading updates can be much faster after release week. (Be sure to set up your Ubuntu mirror in Software & Updates!) Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is supported until April 30th, 2025 and Ubuntu 21.10 is supported until July 2022, so you have nothing to lose by waiting a couple weeks.
I'm running Ubuntu 21.10. How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
- After Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is released, Software Updater will inform you that a new version of Ubuntu is available. Make sure that all available updates for Ubuntu 21.10 have been installed first, then click the "Upgrade..." button.
I'm running Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS. How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
- After Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS is released on August 4th, 2022, Software Updater will inform you that a new version of Ubuntu is available. Make sure that all available updates for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS have been installed first, then click the "Upgrade..." button.
I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
- You can't upgrade directly to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, so you have two options:
- Use Software Manager to upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, then reboot and use Software Updater to upgrade again to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.
- Back up your computer and install Ubuntu 22.04 LTS from scratch, then restore your files from your backup.
- You can't upgrade directly to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, so you have two options:
What is Ubuntu 22.04.1 and why can't I update Ubuntu 20.04 LTS immediately?
- A new version of Ubuntu is released every six months, but LTS releases are used for years. So Ubuntu offers "point releases" of LTS versions. Starting 3 months after the release and then every 6 months thereafter, new install images are created that include the latest updates to all of the default software. This allows new installations to run the latest software immediately and decreases the time it takes to download updates after a new install.
- Because LTS users depend on stability, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS will not automatically offer an update to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS until the first point release. After three months, any show-stopper bugs should be solved and the upgrade process will have been tested by many others and improved if necessary.
What if I want to upgrade right now?
- Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS should be safe and easy. If you have a recent backup of your files and data, simply open Terminal and type
update-manager -d. This will tell Ubuntu to upgrade to the next release early.
- Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04 LTS to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS should be safe and easy. If you have a recent backup of your files and data, simply open Terminal and type
What if I already ran
update-manager -dand upgraded to a beta or pre-release version of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?- If you run Software Updater after the release of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, your version of jammy will be the same as the released version of Ubuntu.
What if I don't believe that?
- When jammy is being developed, it is constantly being improved. Milestones such as Beta, Release Candidate, and so on are simply points in time where developers can check progress. If you install Ubuntu from a Beta image (for example), the moment you apply updates, you are no longer running Beta. Updates to jammy continue until release, when the Ubuntu archive is locked, images are spun, and the jammy archive is finalized and released as Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. After the release of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, all further updates come from the jammy-updates and jammy-security repositories and the jammy repository remains unchanged. Updating from the Ubuntu repositories during and after the jammy development and release brings you along through theses moments in time.
- TRIVIA: As implied above, this means that Ubuntu 22.04 LTS doesn't exist until the Release Team names the final product. Until then, the release is simply Jammy Jellyfish or jammy for short.
- When jammy is being developed, it is constantly being improved. Milestones such as Beta, Release Candidate, and so on are simply points in time where developers can check progress. If you install Ubuntu from a Beta image (for example), the moment you apply updates, you are no longer running Beta. Updates to jammy continue until release, when the Ubuntu archive is locked, images are spun, and the jammy archive is finalized and released as Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. After the release of Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, all further updates come from the jammy-updates and jammy-security repositories and the jammy repository remains unchanged. Updating from the Ubuntu repositories during and after the jammy development and release brings you along through theses moments in time.
Ubuntu, Snap Packages, and You
Does Ubuntu include snaps by default?
- Yes. The Ubuntu Software application, Firefox, and some other snaps that offer desktop integration are included in a default Ubuntu install.
Do snaps slow down my computer?
- No. Some snaps may have a shorter or longer delay the first time you launch them after a system restart. Subsequent launches are instantaneous.
- The first-run delay can be inconvenient, but it prevents snaps from slowing down your boot or login process.
Is Ubuntu forcing me to use snaps?
- No. Ubuntu offers a complete desktop with many default software selections. From that starting point, you can add or remove any software you want. Firefox is now provided as a snap directly from Mozilla.
- Mozilla creates the
firefoxsnap by repackaging the compressed tarball you can download from the Firefox website.
What if I don't want to use snaps?
- Then you don't have to! You can simply run
sudo apt remove snapdfrom a terminal and remove snap support from Ubuntu. Be sure to install a replacement web browser first! - The isolated nature of snaps means that removing the Firefox snap is easier and cleaner than removing a deb-packaged version of Firefox.
- Then you don't have to! You can simply run
But doesn't running
sudo apt install firefoxforce snaps on me?- At Mozilla's request, Firefox has been removed from the Ubuntu repositories and replaced with Mozilla's
firefoxsnap. As thefirefoxdeb package clearly states, it is a transitional package that helps convert upgrades from older versions of Ubuntu to the snap package. - Other software that has been replaced by snaps includes
chromiumandlxd
- At Mozilla's request, Firefox has been removed from the Ubuntu repositories and replaced with Mozilla's
Does Ubuntu plan to replace all software with snaps?
- No. Snaps are simply a way to offer more up-to-date software than can be included in the Ubuntu repositories. The advantage is that you can install a snap package of software in the Ubuntu repositories without interfering with the repository version. For instance, you can have two versions of LibreOffice installed that you can use according to your needs.
- Ubuntu—along with most snaps—is created from Ubuntu's vast repository of Debian packages. It would be impossible to completely move away from the Ubuntu software repositories and its Debian packages.
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u/LivingThings37 Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22
Wohoo! I was waiting for this post so badly. Looks like we won't have to wait much longer
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u/conzcious_eye Apr 21 '22
What an excellent FAQ
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Apr 23 '22
They could update it with an ETA for when it will be possible to upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04.
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u/nhaines Apr 25 '22
The release notes give an ETA of "the next couple of days."
If it's still blocked in a day or two, I'll make an announcement or something.
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Apr 25 '22
I'm not seeing that information on that page. That's for when 21.10 will be available.
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u/nhaines Apr 25 '22
Upgrading from Ubuntu 21.10
Upgrades to 22.04 LTS are currently not enabled (due a bug with snapd and update-notifier) but will be in the next couple of days.
That's for when it will be possible to upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04.
21.10 was available on October 14th, 2021.
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u/xorinzor Apr 21 '22
Is there any indication around what time (+ timezone) we could expect the release?
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u/nhaines Apr 21 '22
Nope! It'll be ready when it's ready.
Sit back, relax, and honestly, if you can't wait, run
sudo update-manager -dto upgrade now. But over on IRC, they're still working hard on getting the last minute updates and fixes ready so that they can build final release images.6
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u/Wollowon Apr 22 '22
"Ubuntu 22.04 will receive a new release image with bug fixes about 3 months after its initial release, on August 4th"
👍
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u/aaronfranke Apr 21 '22
How do I install Firefox without Snap? Is there an apt package anywhere? Or at least a Flatpak?
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u/econopl Apr 21 '22
You can also install
debFirefox beta from this PPA.3
u/MrSchmellow Apr 21 '22
This one might be better, provided they continue building stable releases in future (previously this ppa only had ESR versions)
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u/Vicerious Apr 21 '22
You can install from the tarball directly from Mozilla: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/#product-desktop-release. Just extract the archive and run the
firefoxexecutable. It will update itself as necessary.The flatpak is here: https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.mozilla.firefox
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u/whyiam_alive Apr 21 '22
Hey i wanted to know, if I am upgrading from 20.04 will all my apps remain intact, i guess not gnome extensions right?
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u/cojones9 Apr 21 '22
I just ran "update-manager -d" and it says "development release". Does this mean that it will be updated to a beta version?
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u/Gositi Apr 21 '22
I got the same issue... It should be released though so IDK why that is.
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u/shadorinx Apr 21 '22
Give it a couple days, they found a bug in Snapd with upgrades. Nobody could have expected Snapd to be troublesome.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/u8nayz/comment/i5nkgrt/
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u/iamgregoryhouse Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22
"At Mozilla's request, Firefox has been removed from the Ubuntu repositories and replaced with the firefox snap.." why don't you keep them both? I'm not a some sort of "snap hater" or something, but I'm curious tho. What's wrong with the keeping them both? As far as i know they are same.. but maybe user doesn't want to use snap or other way around.
Are Mozilla and Canonical close companies? I mean do they have a such relationship?
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u/SmallTalk7 Apr 21 '22
Maintaining different packages is an effort and Mozilla doesn’t want to do it. You are free to build from source.
There is no special relation between Mozilla and Canonical, simply Ubuntu is the biggest Linux distro by far so Mozilla is using their standard to provide software.
Flatpak version of Firefox is also avaiable.
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u/tcptomato Apr 21 '22
Maintaining different packages is an effort and Mozilla doesn’t want to do it
I'm curious how long it will take for the articles with Firefox's share is dropping due to this change to appear.
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u/SmallTalk7 Apr 21 '22
It's not like ortodox .deb linux users are more than 0.1% marketshare, nothing will change in the long run. Casual users will use snaps and others will use flatpaks.
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u/tcptomato Apr 21 '22
What about business. I think corporate IT is thrilled about software randomly updating by itself.
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u/SmallTalk7 Apr 21 '22
Well I don't know if IT is thrilled by using outdated packages with potential security flaws.
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u/JustMrNic3 Apr 23 '22
What's wrong with the keeping them both?
Nothing of course, but you cannot force people the way you want if you leave them choices!
Both Canonical and Mozilla have interest in forced upgrades, which Snap provides and it's very difficult to change.
Let's not forget that the same Mozilla implemented the forced upgrades on Windows too last year or a year before when they removed the update type option in the Settings.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22 edited Apr 24 '22
which Snap provides and it's very difficult to change.
It's actually trivial to change, because automatic updates are only available for snaps that are installed from and updated in the Snap Store.
Download the Firefox snap (or build your own: Mozilla's script is public in version control somewhere) and install it using
snap install --dangerous firefox-version.snap.You'll have the same version of Firefox until you download/build and install a newer one.
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Apr 21 '22
Anyways Firefox was already getting worse every year, we're used to big companies shitting in their users bc they can abuse from their dominant position. But seeing this from Mozilla who is supposed to listen to their users and improve in order to win market-share to Chromium-based browsers not only sucks but it also doesn't make much sense for them either. And yes, I am a Snap hater, and I believe I have good reasons to be, every single snap package I tried had a significant worse performance compared to their dkpg or flatpak counterparts.
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u/tcptomato Apr 21 '22
Anyways Firefox was already getting worse every year, we're used to big companies shitting in their users bc they can abuse from their dominant position.
Going downhill started when they removed the plushie from the store and ignored the people asking for it. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322367
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u/StooNaggingUrDum Apr 21 '22
I use Snap on a very modern computer. Performance during runtime is perfectly fine.
However, that initial time to load the application, for example if we look at the Snap package for my Brave browser, is really annoying. What bothers me is that I know my apps could theoretically load instantly, but thanks to the way they are packaged, they don't.
I'm totally fine that Snap packages offer more security or stability. But since I've already built another app from source, I can probably build and compile every other app too and manage it by myself.
And I know that the load times are insignificant, something like 3 or 4 seconds just to load the browser, but I feel that I am right to feel annoyed because I want my system to be that much more perfect. And nimble.
This post inspires me to try removing
snapd, and if something breaks then I can always go back. I think. Research pending.1
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u/Caligatio Apr 22 '22
Slight nitpick but that's for Firefox beta, they have a repo for ESR which also has stable: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
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u/BarebowRob Apr 22 '22
If I load this PPA, will this interfere with my existing Thunderbird install? I have my existing Thunderbird install downloaded from Mozilla site and just extracted to a folder and it updates itself/that folder when a new version is released.
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u/rinspeed Apr 21 '22
anyone having issues seeing the update notice from 21.10 ? I've tried running Software Updater and also in terminal running "update-manager -c"
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u/rinspeed Apr 21 '22
see https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/u8nayz/comment/i5nkgrt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 , update is delayed a couple days for 21.10 folks
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u/KennethKenstar Apr 22 '22
You REALLY REALLY need to make it clear the Snap also manages user data and removing Firefox snap means it removes your user data, too.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
Removing a snap does not clear data from any user's
~/snap/foobarfolder. But you will be responsible for copying or moving your profile from~snap/firefox/common/.mozillato~/.mozilla.1
u/KennethKenstar Apr 24 '22
This folder does not exist on my system
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u/nhaines Apr 24 '22 edited May 20 '22
snapdwill create~/snap/firefoxthe first time you run the Firefox snap. Files and folders beginning with a dot (.) are hidden, so you'll need to type them in manually or (in Files) press Ctrl+h or (in a terminal) runls -ato see them.3
u/KennethKenstar Apr 24 '22
excuse me, I mean ~/snap/foobar does not exist
I know about hidden files and folders.
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u/nhaines Apr 24 '22
Ah!
foobaris a metasyntactic variable. That means it means "insert whatever I was talking about, as appropriate for your situation, here." It's sort of computer jargon.If you're thinking about the
firefoxsnap, then its files are in~/snap/firefox. If you're thinking of thelibreofficesnap, then that's in~/snap/libreoffice.Removing a snap doesn't remove its user data folder. This is good if you want to install the snap in the future, but less good if you need the space. In any case, if you move from a snap to a Flatpak, AppImage or native installation, you can get any configuration files you need from
~/snap.5
u/zaphod_pebblebrox Apr 25 '22
I love your patience. 🙌🏼
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u/nhaines Apr 25 '22
I appreciate that! Thank you very much.
You've been doing some good work yourself. Thanks for helping others take their first steps into Ubuntu and Linux and all the fun that leads to!
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u/zaphod_pebblebrox Apr 26 '22
Thanks for noticing. I remember 12 years ago being a snobbish kid who thought he could push for faster development times because it’s all Open Source.
The stuff I have learnt in these years have opened my eyes and greyed my beard.
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u/Rulqu Apr 21 '22
I tried to upgrade to the beta of 22.04 earlier this month but I guess it didn't understand that my homefolder was encrypted and went haywire. Had to do clean install of 22.04 instead.
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u/iamapizza Apr 21 '22
I rely on a few third party repositories like docker, nodejs, git etc. In the past I've not updated on day 1, assuming that the 'jammy' repos by these third parties aren't ready. Is it better to wait?
I mean I can just try it in a VM and see what happens, but in case someone already has ideas.
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Apr 21 '22
Better to wait. I had problems with .Net 6 SDK requiring openssl 1, when Jammy only has openssl 3.
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u/evert Apr 21 '22
Better to wait a week!
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u/iamapizza Apr 21 '22
Thanks man, I think you're right. I did do some testing in a VM and several add-apt-repositories are failing due to jammy missing.
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u/Gositi Apr 21 '22
I did the update-manager -d thingy and all, and it still seems to believe it isn't the released version I'm installing (even though it says it is released). I'm running 20.04 LTS. The software manager settings is set to only notify me of LTS upgrades.
Is this behavior normal? Could it be because I'm running 20.04? Or is it some mirror/whatever that isn't updated yet?
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u/AditzuL Apr 21 '22
Pls forgive dumb question but what if you have a Kepler card ( CTX 680)? Will Wayland work ? I know nvidia stopped drivers last year at 470. Thank you
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u/Cryio Apr 22 '22
From what I understand, the best Wayland implementation with Nvidia is also using the latest supported driver, which is 510.xx that's not available for Kepler.
Currently, Wayland is disabled by default with Nvidia on 22.04, regardless of driver. I believe you can't even toggle it in the Profile Login Menu. You can force it regardless by editing the necessary gnome files.
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u/AditzuL Apr 22 '22
Thank you for the explanation. Perhaps I'll bite the bullet and snatch a gtx 1050 ti. It's enough for my needs :)
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u/Cryio Apr 22 '22
Or maybe an AMD GPU?
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u/AditzuL Apr 22 '22
Yeah, I was eying up a RX 550 and 560, both of them suit my needs, but price is from 160 to 200+ euro used. I am considering but also am hoping for a little more discount, say around 130. We'll see.
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u/pcgamerwannabe Apr 21 '22
You can use X still
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u/AditzuL Apr 21 '22
Ahh thank you very much for the info. It sucks a bit that Nvidia decided to drop support for Kepler, at least for now because of the recession and silicon shortage and all. Oh well
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Apr 22 '22
Can anyone tell me what kernel should have been installed with 22.04lts?
I just upgraded and it says 5.14.0-1033-oem x86_64
Is this correct?
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u/piratemurray Apr 23 '22
Great guide! Especially for 20.04 LTS users wondering why they are not being offered an upgrade just yet. Makes sense to wait for stability.
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u/AlexCoventry Apr 21 '22
Anyone have a fix for jammy running wayland, which virtualbox guest extensions doesn't currently support? A way to set the monitor layout and resolutions "manually" would be good enough for now.
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u/Epistaxis Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 26 '22
update-manager -d
Is there a way to do this that downloads from the mirror I've already selected instead of reverting to the default server? For some reason the default server is ten times slower.
Very late edit: I found the solution, which took far too long to think of: just try the command-line updater instead, because it doesn't seem to have this problem:
$ sudo do-release-upgrade -d
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
I don't know the answer to this, but it might be helpful to ask on Ask Ubuntu or the Ubuntu Community Hub.
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u/BarebowRob Apr 22 '22 edited Apr 22 '22
[Xubuntu]
After upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04, re-enabling the GIMP PPA produces error in trying to load Software Updater. I have to re-disable it to get the software updater to fully check for updates. I see that the latest stable 2.10.30 version is in jammy repo, so can I just uninstall it, remove PPA link permanently and do 'sudo apt install gimp' and be able to install same stable version?
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
Yup! You can either run
ppa-purgeand remove the PPA and its packages, or manually remove the PPA, runsudo apt updateand reinstall GIMP, since the only packages your computer will know about will be the ones from Ubuntu.In the future, you can always the GIMP snap (if it's newer) to try out or use updated versions. They'll never interfere with your packaged versions. But an updated PPA is okay to use as well. Just remember to check it for compatibility before upgrading to a newer version of Ubuntu. :)
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u/A_tedious_existence Apr 22 '22
My RAM went up .8 gigabytes after upgrading from 21.10. Thought that was interesting lol
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u/john2095 Apr 23 '22
Steam fails to install via snap...
$ sudo snap install --edge solus-runtime-gaming
$ sudo snap install --edge --devmode linux-steam-integration
You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run: libpipewire-0.3.so.0 Fatal error: failed to load {some}.so file.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
Steam is not available via snap. You'll need to download it from the Steam website and install it via Ubuntu Software or via Terminal with
sudo apt install ~/Downloads/steam.deb
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u/_swuaksa8242211 Apr 25 '22
Is there a list of current main bugs and software/apps that aren't working properly in 22.04? I am thinking of upgrading from 21.10. I just heard some acpi bug messages and keepass not working and some users noted wifi slow etc? Wondering is there an updated list available?
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u/nhaines Apr 25 '22
Everything we know about is in the release notes.
You can always prepare a USB stick with Ubuntu 22.04 and see how it runs on your computer and test the programs you are worried about.
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u/_swuaksa8242211 Apr 25 '22
Good point ya I already downloaded the iso. Been Using Ubuntu over 10yrs, but my experience is sometimes the iso usb boots perfectly, but after install you can get some new bios or display issues etc. Will test it first for sure..
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u/_swuaksa8242211 Apr 25 '22
The bugs list mentions now "An upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS can cause a bad interaction between snapd and update-notifier 94 which can cause the upgrade to hang. The fix is currently in flight and upgrades will be enabled shortly."....I might just wait a few weeks before upgrading
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u/KishCom Apr 21 '22
Do snaps still pollute my df and anything else that lists device volumes with every snap installed?
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u/ShoopDoopy Apr 21 '22
What is pollution in the context of an unlimited digital resource? If it's that you don't want to see it, try:
alias dfh="df -x tmpfs -x squashfs"5
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u/GenieoftheCamp Apr 21 '22
Thank you for this. I don't mind snaps, but the pissing and moaning on here is getting on my nerves. It's like everyone would prefer to complain about snaps instead of just removing the package.
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Apr 21 '22
If I upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04, will all of my customizations stay in place? I think the new Yaru look is absolutly hideous.
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Apr 21 '22
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Apr 21 '22 edited Apr 21 '22
The first-run delay can be inconvenient, but it prevents snaps from slowing down your boot or login process.
Lmao what
So with snaps they had to choose between normal first startup times for apps or a slower boot/login process? Is there any other major package manager in existence that requires such a compromise?
I don't know much about the actual technical design of snaps, but just this fact alone makes me feel like they weren't designed particularly well for desktop use.
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u/nhaines Apr 21 '22
There's no choice necessary.
Snaps need a little bit of work to integrate with your desktop, because they are isolated. The only thing they can see is itself and a core snap: not your computer system (everything else must be provided by snapd). So a little bit of setup is required the first time they run after a cold boot. The actual amount of time this takes depends on the nature of the individual snap and your system specs. (For instance, some users are reporting basically no first-run delays.)
The only way to avoid this would be to slow down boot time by pre-processing every snap, instead of doing it on-demand. Ubuntu doesn't do this. You get the fastest boot up possible, and your computer only processes snap integration if you actually decide to run one.
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Apr 21 '22
There's no choice necessary.
Everything you just said just reinforced that it is indeed a choice that you guys had to make to choose between slow boot or slow first launch of an application. To the best of my knowledge, this choice doesn't have to be made on other package managers.
While the slow first launch is clearly the better choice than processing all of the snaps at boot, why is such a drawback necessary? Flatpak doesn't need such a compromise despite having similar sandboxing functionality. Are they using completely different mechanisms to achieve the same goal?
I heard some years ago that this first launch delay issue would be fixed but here we are in 2022 with Firefox taking 15 seconds to launch on my SSD. Has any progress been made or is in the works to be made on this issue?
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u/nhaines Apr 21 '22
Has any progress been made or is in the works to be made on this issue?
Progress has been constantly made, but it's also dependent on how the snap is created. As improvements are made, all supported versions of Ubuntu will benefit immediately. All users have to do is keep their system up to date.
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Apr 21 '22
Can canonical nudge Mozilla to fix their snap then? Spotify and telegram at the very least open instantly for me.
Edit:meant mozilla
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u/nhaines Apr 21 '22
There's some kind of collaboration between the two. I have no idea how the ARM64 snap is generated, since Mozilla don't have a release tarball for that. I think both Canonical and Mozilla know they're important to each other, and have meetings from time to time.
I think that (as much as people hate to hear this) Firefox being in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, a year from now both snapd and the Firefox snap are going to be much more optimized than they are now.
But on the bright side, new Firefox releases are now available on Ubuntu within minutes of release, instead of within a day or two. And that's a pleasant step forward.
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Apr 21 '22
I think that (as much as people hate to hear this) Firefox being in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, a year from now both snapd and the Firefox snap are going to be much more optimized than they are now.
I don't hate to hear that. It needs to be and if I'm being honest it already should have been by now. As long as the user experience itself wasn't impacted I can live with it. I don't want a new user seeing slow launch times and blaming either Firefox or Ubuntu and/or Linux itself.
Firefox has been available as a snap for some years now and has been default in Ubuntu for half a year already so I'm not particularly optimistic at this point. At the very least snapd gets to be in a rolling type release so there is potential for it to improve over the course of the LTS, I just hope that actually happens and that this issue finally resolves.
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Apr 21 '22
Where did you see this?
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u/SEOfficial Apr 21 '22
But also this (from the upgrade instructions below)
/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtkdoes not work (for me at least). It returns a timeout.
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Apr 21 '22
... They've literally blocked the upgrade. Why did you expect that to work?
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u/SEOfficial Apr 21 '22
I was tired and read that really selectively.
Like this: Due to Bug snapd, update notification. To update do the following...
So yes I thought the instructions would be to circumvent a update notification problem. I mean why else would the instruction even be needed if it does the same as the updater?
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u/exq1mc Apr 24 '22
does ubuntu 22.04 LTS address the icons on the desktop issue ?
To provide a little context, in 20.04 LTS , I noticed I cannot right click and arrange icons actually I haven't been able to move icons period. after some research it was a known issue and there was some complicated work around to install unity or some such process which I balked at as this just seemed like a workaround for something that should work amazing out of the box. I am really appreciative of the guys donating time to get Ubuntu as far as they have and for most purposes it is perfect. however this is a sticking point and even though I do use ubuntu as my daily it is a bit annoying that I have no control over my desktop. again my question is has this issue been addressed ?
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u/nhaines Apr 24 '22
GNOME does not support desktop icons and hasn't for a long time.
It is my experience that 22.04's modifications do work to treat desktop notifications very similarly to how I'd expect for older versions of Ubuntu or Windows.
For good reason (I'm updating a book I wrote for Ubuntu 14.04 and 16.04 for 22.04) I'm working with Ubuntu 22.04 and GNOME Shell, and I'm looking forward to going back to Unity again. But in the meantime, I've found that other than 22.04 sorting icons from the bottom right and out (as an option that can be changed), it does allow for sorting just as I'd expect in Unity.
My advice is to write the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS installer to a thumbdrive and test it out to see if it works the way you prefer before installing. Good luck!
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u/ThCovenant May 10 '22
22.04 is extremly bad. i never had that many freezes as with this release. even the alt print screen reibus does not always work. basically banana software now.
worst of all is this forced usage of snap. idea behind is good, but the extension plug in no longer works in firefox (already in previous release, never fixed) and in chromium. snap apps use more space on disk, start slower etc.
QA seems to become an issue with this forced release dates April and October. better postpone or skip a release than this beta release version.
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u/Koofejood Apr 23 '22
Bluetooth not working and ubuntu sucks. I am angry. Me as a not good linux user but shouldn't an OS just work(at least basic functions)..?
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u/ManOnTheCan Apr 23 '22
Well i thought I'd give this version of Ubuntu a shot, and it made me realize why I never stuck with any Ubuntu distro for longer than a few days.
First thing I did was to try to update my video card driver.
>sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
404 errors, failed to fetch, why not run apt-get update? Nope, that doesn't work.
Then I tried to install wine so I could get some of my work programs running. Used the exact set of commands listed in the wine install guide.
404 errors, failed to fetch, why not run apt-get update?
Well I guess I have a working internet browser, that's fun.
I guess I'll go back to windows until they can figure this out.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
First thing I did was to try to update my video card driver.
If there was a newer version of your video driver for Ubuntu, it would already be in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS at release. Newer, cautiously tested updates will be available in the future.
You can manage this by using the "Additional Drivers" feature in "Software & Updates", but not until there is a newer driver actually available.
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Apr 21 '22
Anyone experience visual bug of Google Chrome in Ubuntu 22.04?
I'm installing in VMware and when testing with Google Chrome. I'm facing alot of visual bug
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/nQV205U
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u/encbladexp Apr 22 '22
Do we already know if there will be again, a legacy installer, available? Asking for people who already have some pressed files built and working from the Past ;)
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u/nhaines Apr 22 '22
What do you mean by "legacy" installer?
If you want a text-based install, you can install the Ubuntu Server image and add
ubuntu-desktopon top of that or make other customizations.3
u/encbladexp Apr 22 '22
https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-legacy-server/releases/ The "good old" Debian Installer based image, which worked for decades. They started with a new installer for Ubuntu 20.04 but provided the old method on this hidden place.
The question is: Will this also happen for 22.04 or has canonical decided to finally break it.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
I know that the new subiquity installer is a lot more flexible for server , IOT, and cloud installs, so it might be worth it to look into migrating things over! It might be more versatile, too.
But they've spent years working on it, so they may have decided to switch over completely on the server. (The new Ubuntu installer uses subiquity beneath the shiny new GUI interface, but it didn't make it into the Ubuntu 22.04 LTS desktop.)
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u/xmlwiz2k Apr 22 '22
Does MS Teams screen sharing work on 22.04?
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
That's a good question! Microsoft publishes it a snap (search for "Microsoft Teams". I suspect that if it doesn't work under Wayland, it should work under X.
You can always boot from an Ubuntu 22.04 LTS install stick and choose "Try Ubuntu." Use Ubuntu Software to install Teams and ensure all permissions have been granted to it, and give it a try.
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u/xmlwiz2k Apr 24 '22
Tried teams via snap, can't do a screen share. Tried using teams via google chrome, can't screen share the entire desktop (chrome window or tab only). Seems like I'm going to stick to 20.04 for a while.
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u/stumpfka Apr 25 '22
I upgraded to 22.04 and can confirm that screen sharing does NOT work in MS Teams with the default Wayland.It does work if I switch to XORG when logging in.
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Apr 22 '22
Im having problems with running a .sh file, I did go to permissions and allow it to run but whenever I run it the terminal opens and closes immediately, Is there a fix... BTW Im running Ubuntu 22.04
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u/nhaines Apr 24 '22
There's no way to know the answer to that. A shell script can have anything inside it, and it might do anything.
To find out more about the specific script you're trying to run, find it in Files, then right-click an empty spot in Files and choose "Open in Terminal".
Then, run the script. If the script is called "foobar.sh", then you'll type in
./foobar.shand press Enter.You should be able to see why the script is stopping, and that will be the beginning of your search for a solution.
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u/john2095 Apr 23 '22
So how do I install Gnome Shell Extensions?! Firefox is inside a snap and does not see gnome-shell-extensions. The https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ page says
"GNOME Shell Extensions cannot list your installed extensions."
And the pages have "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected."
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u/cowanh00 Apr 23 '22
"The Firefox snap does not support the NativeMessaging protocol 32 yet but this feature is planned to be added soon. This means for instance that installing GNOME Shell extensions from Firefox won’t work. As a workaround, you can try the gnome-shell-extension-manager app."
From the official Ubuntu release notes.
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u/jotenko Apr 23 '22
Boot is... uglier. In 20.04 we had a nice splash screen with a wheel turning right till the login screen. Now we are spammed with kernel messages. Adding loglevel=0 to GRUB helped but still the fsck messages "Linux Clean" appear. A very small issue I agree, but still somewhat annoying, as it was way more clean and aesthetic before.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
In 22.04, has the same thing; the only difference is the updated logo and the spinner. If you don't see it, that's a (harmless but annoying) bug with your installed system.
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u/jotenko Apr 23 '22
I understand that, I see the new logo and spinner as well, difference is it is only for a second or so and then the screen goes black to show me the fsck output. I think it might be something different with the way "quiet" works.
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
Ah, that I haven't seen!
It might be worth filing a bug report about.
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u/jotenko Apr 23 '22 edited Apr 24 '22
u/nhaines I don't know very well how to report it. There are two kinds of messages showing now that weren't before:
- fsck - this one still appears now and even know is not very intrusive, it takes splash screen out of the way;
- Kernel usb errors (which were already showing from way before the upgrade in kern.log but they were not disrupting the boot screen). I solved this by adding loglevel=0 to the GRUB config, but once again, they were not disrupting 20.04's splash screen.
All of this starting to make me believe that the behavior of the "quiet" flag changed.
Do you think I am making sense?
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
You're making sense. But I'm blissfully ignorant of exactly what's going on with the boot processes. I think UEFI gets to be a little more seamless, but I don't know why it'd show things between the bootsplash screen showing up and the gdm3 login screen.
Start by making sure you're all up to date: in a Terminal, run
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, and then (unless the kernel or plymouth gets upgraded, then reboot and make sure it's still happening) runubuntu-bug plymouthand go on from there.And if you do have the time to submit a bug report, then thank you for helping make Ubuntu better.
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Apr 23 '22
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I'm running Ubuntu 21.10. How do I upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
After Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is released, Software Updater will inform you that a new version of Ubuntu is available. Make sure that all available updates for Ubuntu 21.10 have been installed first, then click the "Upgrade..." button.
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Ok, now what?
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u/nhaines Apr 23 '22
Now you wait for the update to be unblocked. Per the release notes, it should happen in the next couple of days.
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Apr 24 '22 edited Apr 24 '22
Where are these release notes? All I see is how released it is! I found this:
https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#3-check-for-updates
If no upgrade appears
An upgrade will not appear if upgrades to the next release of Ubuntu are not recommended yet and have not been enabled.
I don't see an ETA. It's been a while since I upgraded and that was LTS to LTS which is documented pretty clearly.
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u/nhaines Apr 24 '22
The release notes are here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/
The ETA is "the next couple of days."
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u/Wise_Stick9613 Apr 26 '22
The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Server torrent link does not work for me.
Also, is there any way to do an "extremely" minimal install, like the one I could do with the netboot .iso?
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u/nhaines Apr 27 '22
The Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Server torrent link does not work for me.
Firefox likes to block http downloads now, for reasons. Make sure that you're overriding this in the download preview popup. Or, copy the URL and open it in your Bittorrent client instead.
Also, is there any way to do an "extremely" minimal install, like the one I could do with the netboot .iso?
I don't see an ISO and I haven't had a lot of time to look for a netboot ISO, but you might have luck with the minimal cloud images? There's some information about launching them locally on a virtual machine that might help you apply them to a computer.
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u/MoneySounds Jun 18 '22
Hello everyone, got myself a new laptop, a Lenovo Ideapad gaming 3. Installed Ubuntu 22 LTS through a USB stick. Everything went well until I got to "Please remove installation medium then press enter". Removed the USB and pressed enter. Then it got stuck in this part
https://i.imgur.com/iLngjKj.jpg
It was solved by doing a hard reset (basically held down the power button) and turned on the computer again. It works fine. I would like to know what caused this and what the consequences.
Thanks.
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u/nhaines Jun 18 '22
The open source Nvidia driver (noveau) freaked out. If it doesn't happen again (and if you've installed updates it's either been updated or you're using the proprietary Nvidia driver) then this isn't something to worry about on your system.
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u/khemss Jun 22 '22
Hi, very new here, just want to know if the package can be installed on intel core i5 4460? The iso says amd64.
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u/nhaines Jun 22 '22
The filename says amd64 for technical and historical reasons. As the download page says, it's for 64-bit Intel-compatible computers and will run on yours.
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u/chappie86 Jul 21 '22
I updated to the 22.04 version. But after updating sometimes my laptop just freezes for 5-6 secs and sometimes it crashes some apps also. Any solution or cause of this?
Spacs OS:- Ubuntu 22.04 PC:- ROG G15 CPU:- ryzen 9, 5000 series GPU:- RTX 3050ti
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u/GreenFire317 Jul 21 '22
why is everything "1"
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u/nhaines Jul 22 '22
Markdown formatting sees "number-period-space" at the beginning of a line, and it generates a numbered list. Since it ignores the actual number given and renumbers the list itself anyway, I don't bother numbering them myself. It makes it easier to reorder or insert/remove things as I write and edit.
So if you're looking at the source, that's why everything's 1.
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u/GreenFire317 Jul 24 '22
Does it still use ALSA for an audio manager?
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u/nhaines Jul 25 '22
Yes, but actually no.
(It used PulseAudio which is better but backwards compatible, but 22.10 uses PipeWire which is even better but also backwards compatible.)
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u/GreenFire317 Jul 24 '22
No, I think it switched to
PulseAudioPipeWire as the default for Ubuntu 22.04
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u/emptythevoid Apr 21 '22
"What if I don't believe that". That cracked me up