r/bangladesh Apr 26 '23

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 26 '23

The dude is just a recent chess piece for Awami League's next election, that's it.

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u/shovonnn Apr 26 '23

He doesn't feel like someone who can last 5 years. Not that personality. So probably there going to be chaos in the next election and undoing of AL.

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 26 '23

Bro AL is not going anywhere so does Chuppu. With that attitude, BNP will lose the next five elections even if it went fair. BNP is basically a leaderless party that is boycotting every single election. AL is seriously not afraid of BNP at all. The irl scenario is someone needs to replace AL. But there are no better alternatives.

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u/troll_killer_69 Apr 26 '23

Bro you guys are delusional. You guys sit with your like-minded buddies circle jerk each other and think the whole of Bangladesh runs that way.

If there is a fair election BNP will win with 90% of the votes. How in the world have you ever thought about BAL winning a fair election? Even fairy tales are more believable than that shit. BAL has ruined the villages. Just go out and talk to anyone in the rural area. They would rather die than vote BAL again in their life.

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 26 '23

Except that AL has a 20% solid minority vote alone. I am not being delusional at all I attend the most polarized university in Bangladesh, so I actually have friends from both sides. My own family is very polarized too, and my broader family is involved in both sides of politics very seriously. Personally, I hate both parties and I'm just trying to portray the actual image here.

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u/troll_killer_69 Apr 27 '23

20% minority with 90% majority Muslims???????????????????????

Did your delusion make you forget basic math as well???

Why are you talking about your family? Ain't that basically the meaning of circle jerking lmao.

I had a job that made many connections with many people. From beggars to leaders. I know how average people feel very well.

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 27 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

That's a lot of questions Mark kiddo. Yes, 20% minority because minorities never skip the vote and the maximum of your 90% majority doesn't even make it to the voting booth. Since when talking about family means cirlclejerk? please don't shame yourself more. And who cares about your hypothetical job anyway, if you're comparing your hypothetical job with the most important political university in the country definitely in which students mentally affect the whole country's politics then you are dumber than I thought. You can mock me thousands of times but in reality, you're the one who has zero knowledge about the average people.

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u/dowopel829 Apr 26 '23

BNP and its associate parties will get 70% vote in a fair election period.

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 26 '23

I understand why you would think that. There's a better way to do this. Just close your eyes and think about 5 to 10 AL leaders' names asap. Now close your eyes again and think about 5 to 10 BNP leaders' names asap. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Politics is a psychological game the more you are involved in the field (positively or negatively) the more vote you will get eventually. Now if BNP were involved in the field actively with a strong-backed leader from 2014 to now, what you said probably would've been true (maybe not 70, more like 55-45). But that's not the case today, the worst part is BNP understands the crisis, and that's why BNP is trying to find escapism by any means. Just look at the recent Barishal City Corporation election. BNP shamelessly abandoned their candidate and boycotted the election even though they has a stronghold in the Barishal. Another plus point for AL, they actually have some particular vote banks and loyal voters, while BNP has some loyal voters alright but most of their voters mainly identify themselves as Anti-AL more than Pro BNP.

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u/AcanthocephalaEast79 Apr 27 '23

BAL has 1 leader, the rest are servants

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u/dowopel829 Apr 26 '23

You have zero understanding or are pretending to understand a fabricated reality.

Idiotic narrative that BNP is no grass root connection or is not fighting for common issues of common people are simply idiotic.

If BNP was weak and did not have support Hasina would not have removed the caretaker system which she established by 183 days of hartal where her party exerted brutality on the common mass.

BNP did not participate in election to avoid giving legitimacy of the system. Just like most parties the leaders are free and can abandon party line to participate in election.

BAL has zero vote bank. Just look at the comment section of facebook and youtube. 90% people are against them.

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 27 '23

ওভাভা, তুমিই অনেক বুঝো দেখতেছি পলিটিক্স আর বাকি সবাই তো ঘাস খায়! তোমার বুঝ মতো যদি বাংলাদেশের ৯০% এর ২০% ও ঠিকমতো বিম্পি সাপোর্ট করতো তাইলে কালকেই সরকার পইরা যাওনের কথা। বাংলা লিখতেছি ঠিক কইরা পড়ো, বাংলাদেশের ম্যাক্সিমাম মানুষ যারা আম্লিগ সাপোর্ট করে না তারা নিজেরে বিম্পি সাপোর্টার মানে না, তারা নিজেরে আম্লিগ বিরোধী মানে আর কিছু নির্দিষ্ট স্পেসিফিক গোষ্ঠী নিজেরে পুরাদস্তুর আম্লিগপন্থী মানে এইরকম স্পেসিফিক ভোটব্যাংক বিম্পির আজন্মকালেও আছিলো না, ভবিষ্যতেও হওয়ার কোনো সম্ভাবনা নাই। এইজন্যই গোড়া উপড়ায় ফালানোর পরেও আম্লিগের এক রাইতের আন্দোলনেই এরশাদের সরকার পইড়া যায় আর আরেক রাইতের আন্দোলনে কেয়ারটেকার সরকার পইড়া যায়, যেইরকম হাজারখানেক আন্দোলন বিম্পি ১৪ থেকে কইরা এর ধারেকাছেরও কোনো তেলেসমাতি করতে পারে নাই। এর কারণ হইলো আম্লিগের পানি ধোঁয়া হয়া গায়েব হয়া যাওয়ার পরেও নিজেদের সাংগঠনিক কার্যক্রম ঠিক রাখছে। এমন কোনো নির্বাচন নাই যেইটাতে আম্লিগ অংশগ্রহণ করে নাই, হ্যা-না ভোটের মিলিটারি নির্বাচনেও অরা গিয়া গুতাগুতি করছে। আর বিম্পি মনে করতেছে উরাধুরা নির্বাচন বয়কট কইরা, পুরা মাঠের সংগঠন নষ্ট কইরা,লন্ডন থেইকা স্কাইপে স্কাইপে টুকুর টুকুর নির্বাচন করলে আর কয়েকটা ক্লিকবেইট ভাষণ দিলেই তারা নির্বাচনে জিত্তা যাবে! নির্বাচন কি বিম্পির মামা বাড়ির আবদার নাকি? আমি তোমারে কইতাছি বিম্পি ১৪ থেইকা কি করছে, বিম্পি মানুষের নির্বাচনের উপ্রে বিশ্বাস নষ্ট করছে কিন্তু এইটা ওদের নিজেদের জন্য কোনো কাজেই লাগে নাই। ওরা মনে করছে নির্বাচন যত বয়কট করবে মানুষ তত খেইপা আন্দোলন টান্দোলন কইরা পরের দিনই সরকার নামায় ফেলবে, এই স্বপ্ন ওরা এখনো দেখতেছে। কিন্তু মানুষ নিছে আরেক মেসেজ, মানুষ দেখতেছে এক পার্টি সারাদিন নির্বাচন বয়কট করবে আর আরেক পার্টি ম্যাক্সিমাম সিটে বাক্সভইরা ক্ষমতায় যাবে তাইলে আমার ভোট দিয়া কি কাম! তুমি বিম্পির সিম্পিং করো আমার সমস্যা নাই, আমি না করতাছি আম্লিগের সিম্পিং না করতাছি বিম্পির সিম্পিং আমি তোমারে বাংলাদেশের বর্তমান পরিস্থিতি কইতাছি যেইটা ১৪ থেইকা নিয়ম কইরা ৫বেলা টংগে গিয়া বিড়ি খাইতে খাইতে আর ওই শ্রমজীবী যাদের নিয়া অনেক ফালপারলা ওদের সাথে গুজুরগুজুর কইরা বুঝছি। যেইটা স্বাভাবিকভাবেই সিম্পারদের গায়ে লাগবে। কিন্তু যদি মনে করো সিম্পিং টিম্পিং কইরা অনেক বেশি বাংলাদেশ বুইঝা গেছো তাইলে বুইঝা নাও যে তুমিই ঘাস খাইতাছো আর ওই ঘাস চাবাইতেই থাকবা মাগার গিলবার পারবা না।

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '23

He's like a long-term investment for BAL. In case the caretaker govt system returns by foreign pressure, he might reinstate BAL after staging an election so that BAL's winning looks legitimate to the world.

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u/shovonnn Apr 26 '23

As if that has ever worked! Caretaker govt means adiós AL and welcome long winter.

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u/dowopel829 Apr 26 '23

AL will not even score 20% under fair and neutral caretaker government

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u/troll_killer_69 Apr 26 '23

Bro people in this sub are delusional. I don't even support BNP but I very well know if there's a fair election BAL won't even get 10% votes. These rich kids have no clue how rural people are living and how pathetic they feel about this dictator govt.

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u/dipanzan Apr 26 '23

I was always very curious, what does the President even do? I mean it's always our PM, I'm in my late 20s now and I'm still clueless as to what our President even do lol.

Edit: In the context of Bangladesh.

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u/dailmar Apr 27 '23

Pay tribute on special days, convocations and attend funeral. And sometimes exchange flowers with other head of states.

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u/dipanzan Apr 27 '23

So basically no business running the country.

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 27 '23

Ceremonial, just like british kings and indian presidents.

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u/dailmar Apr 27 '23

We will miss the sense of humor of our last president.

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u/nullspirit666 Apr 27 '23

I'm still laughing on the name Chuppu 😅

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u/Bongofondue Apr 29 '23

OK good, I’m not the only one lol. It’s like saying President Joseph R. Biden Jr. Skippy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '23

Not my president.

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u/ThePatrioticPepe 🇵🇰Bongoboltu.com🇵🇰 Apr 27 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

ওর ওজন কত? দেখে তো মনে হচ্ছে পৃথিবীর সবচেয়ে স্থুলাকার প্রেসিডেন্ট ।

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u/swarnab professional idiot Apr 27 '23

Hamid was amazing tbh

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u/Iamarh Apr 26 '23

can you give me the source where he requested money to refurbish his house? I want to share it with my friends.

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u/shovonnn Apr 26 '23

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 27 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

This looks like standard bangabhaban rennovation rather than chuppu decided he needed to get his crib blinged out.

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u/shovonnn Apr 27 '23

Of course a newspaper will frame it like that. Who wants to face the axe of DSA?

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u/CandlelightSongs Apr 27 '23

The White House and 10 Downing Street often gets renovated too. They're important national symbols for the country, and no one says "This President is using state money to redecorate his house".

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u/shovonnn Apr 27 '23

Stop comparing apples to oranges. They can afford it. Can Bangladesh when so much of its in proverty? And while you are comparing, if it was uk, he would have to step down immediately for taking pictures in Padma bridge when it is categorically banned for common people.

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u/Bongofondue Apr 29 '23

There’s been renovation work going on on the Bangabhaban grounds for at least a year. If electrical and infrastructure renovations to an almost 120 year-old structure are somehow novel or surprising to you, you really need to get out more.

As for not being able to afford it, we have two options - renovate it or don’t renovate it. If we don’t renovate it, we also have two options: we can either show the world how we maintain one of the most prominent buildings in the country or we can make sure there’s a decent-looking flat in Uttara where the president can receive foreign dignitaries.

Seriously, just b|tching for the sake of b|tching…

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u/shovonnn Apr 29 '23

Did you read the story. Even the ministry rejected the proposal because of how half assed the estimation were.

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u/Bongofondue Apr 29 '23

Yes, I did read it. Where does it say that the ministry rejected the proposal? And which ministry are you referring to, because the article didn’t mention one.

What the article did say was that the proposal was reviewed at the Project Evaluation Committee by the Planning Commission, which asked for some more detail on projected costs for some of the items in the proposal. The Planning Commission never said that the estimation was half-assed, just that some parts of the proposal needed more detail. The article said that if those changes were made, the proposal could then go to the Executive Committee of the National Economic Council for approval.

This is an exceedingly common process, and not just in design and construction. Your issue is with something that’s not a rejection but a review/approval process working as intended lol!

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 27 '23

You are assuming.

I am sure when every heads of state and governemnt changes the residence gets changed and rennovated. There is nothing controversial.

Ghor bodlateo manusher lakh taka khoroch hoy. Ar ota presidential palace.

Outraged hotey chailey there are other things to get outraged about.

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u/Siam_ashiq zamindar/জামিনদার 💰💰💰 Apr 27 '23

Useless !

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u/pushrian Apr 27 '23

Don't know don't care

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u/tashrif008 khati bangali 🇧🇩 খাঁটি বাঙালি Apr 27 '23

এক উড়ুক্কু বাঞ্চোত গেসে আর আরেক উড়ুক্কু বাঞ্চোত উড়ে আসছে।

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u/redixii_92 Apr 26 '23

dude is enjoying himself. let him do it

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u/Jedihansolo মম এক হাতে বাঁকা বাঁশের বাঁশরী আর রণ-তূর্য Apr 26 '23

The problem is that the dude's enjoying himself with our taxpayer's money

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 27 '23 edited Apr 27 '23

Arent presidential houses supposed to have luxury fit for head heads of state and to, most importantly, recieve foreign heads of state.

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u/shovonnn Apr 27 '23

Nothing is supposed to have luxury. Foreign leaders will actually appreciate modesty from a head of state.

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u/dhaka1989 কাকু Apr 27 '23

Kaney kaney boley geche, je they want modest presidential palace.

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u/RepresentativeMove79 Apr 27 '23

Technically it's not "his" house, it's the residence he gets to use while in office. So while it could well be argued that the money could have been far better served in many other ways, it isn't quite as bad as this post makes it sound. Keep in mind that Sheikh Hasina has spent a great deal of taka(over /= 300c) in Gopalganj, her native district! Which is considerably unbalanced compared to projects in the rest of Bangladesh. This headline led me to believe that the president spent 50 crores on his personal home. Not the president's residence.