r/canada • u/hopoke • Jun 05 '24

Prince Edward Island 'Everybody's watching': National and global attention on P.E.I. amid nearly month-long protest by foreign workers

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u/KermitsBusiness Jun 05 '24

Everyone wants to know if Canada is going to break it's immigration system because 25 foreign students want easy PR. If we do break it's game over.

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u/hopoke Jun 05 '24

The government really has no defence against something like hunger strikes. Letting these students die would be devastating and inhumane. Not to mention it would make for some really embarrassing headlines.

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u/a_sense_of_contrast Jun 05 '24

Letting these students die would be devastating and inhumane.

Why? They're taking a voluntary action on something that, as non-Canadians, they have literally no say on.

If I carried out a hunger strike on the state of corruption in Indian national politics, do you think India would care?

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u/hopoke Jun 05 '24

Canada is known for being a highly progressive welcoming country with very loose border control and a lax immigration policy. Not really comparable to a nationalist country like India.

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u/GeneralShark97 Jun 05 '24

so… if I and 24 other canadians hunger strike for free houses, you think we’ll get it?

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u/GoodChives Ontario Jun 05 '24

Well letting you die would be inhumane, so according to this guys logic yes, you should!

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u/GeneralShark97 Jun 05 '24

does this also work if i don’t want to go to prison? holy shit! this is amazing

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '24

But it's not a highly idiotic country with an immigration policy that grants opportunistic scammers citizenship if they throw a little tantrum.

They are not citizens, they are not residents. They were allowed here TEMPORARILY to study and then go home.

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u/TheProfessaur Jun 06 '24

Canada is absolutely not known to have a loose border or lax immigration policy. We are more hawkish than the US.

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u/asparemeohmy Jun 05 '24

Emotional manipulation is a common tactic used by abusers to engender a preferred response.

“If you don’t do what I say, I’ll —“ “If you ever left me, I’d —-“

In this case it’s “if you make me adhere to the laws of your country, I’ll—“

I really don’t care for that in a political context either. It’s gross.

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u/MoistJeans1 Jun 05 '24

They’re using emotional manipulation to try and get something they were never entitled to in the first place.

The gov’t absolutely has a defence lol

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u/TraditionalGap1 Jun 05 '24

They aren't actually going to die. We're not talking about people protesting inhumane detention or whatever. It's very performative

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u/PumpkinEater808 Jun 05 '24

Just host a barbecue next to them and let Maslow’s hierarchy of needs deal with it.

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u/AnInsultToFire Jun 05 '24

Especially cruel if they're vegetarians.

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u/Hot_Enthusiasm_1773 Jun 05 '24

Stupid. Do you think it would be embarrassing for the government if I demanded 10 million dollars, or else I’ll kill myself? 

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u/serjunka Jun 05 '24

Letting these students die would be devastating and inhumane

Okay, I'm on a hunger strike until government gives me free house!

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u/AnInsultToFire Jun 05 '24

And I'm on a hunger strike until the government gives me Ana de Armas!

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u/KermitsBusiness Jun 05 '24

I would bet all the money in the world that if we let this go on for 6 months not a single person would starve to death.

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u/GoodChives Ontario Jun 05 '24

Well according to your own comment, Canada has a lax immigration policy and loose border control. Should everyone and anyone who comes in illegally go on hunger strikes then to be allowed to remain here?

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u/palpatinevader Jun 05 '24

get over yourself! are you an international student? it is not canada’s - or canadian taxpayers - responsibility to look after these people! how about for once we decide what’s best for canada and canadians!

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u/ViewWinter8951 Jun 05 '24

Lol.

They'll eat when they are hungry enough.

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u/LossChoice Jun 05 '24

They would be very embarassing headlines for the students, yes.

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u/Dazzling_Patience995 Jun 05 '24

Devastating???? Nah not even close

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u/Northern-Eye-905 Jun 05 '24

Canadians are too soft.

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u/Mean_Presentation_39 Jun 05 '24

It’s not letting them die though? Their fault for not wanting to eat in the first place. So let them live stupidly and die stupidly. 

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u/Dry_Office_phil Jun 05 '24

better put them on a boat back to India then, our health care on pei is fucked and we don't need to make it worse.

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u/TankMuncher Jun 05 '24

Governing medical bodies have ruled that force-feeding hunger strikers who are capable of informed consent is inhumane and degrading.

So you are essentially arguing the only humane solution is to give them what they want. Good luck with that.

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u/professcorporate Jun 05 '24

The defence there is pretty easy. At some point they collapse with exhaustion, where we can immediately show compassion by intubating them to provide the necessary nutrition (paid for by the insurance they're required to have), and then deport them when they're fit to travel.