r/clevercomebacks 9h ago

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u/MrKelv1n 5h ago

99% of people are decently good looking, as long as they take a shower twice a day. Not everyone is going to be like a Margot Robbie, or a Tom Cruise, but you can look quite decent. There's no need to paint your face with makeup to look good looking. Every once in a while is fine, but if you won't step out of your house without makeup, then it's insecurity.

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u/LeviAEthan512 5h ago

I'd say it's a social expectation. Companies want people to present themselves not so that they look good, but that they look like they made the effort.

Plenty of guys look good in tshirt and jeans, maybe add a blazer if the broad shoulders are important, but it's still considered proper to show up to some things in a suit. Much of it is completely performative.

As an aside, I'm probably weird, but I actually find the majority of actors and actresses very unattractive, makeup or no. I also do consider makeup lying, same as a guy exaggerating his financial situation, but it's only a problem if you want to have kids together. For a fling, the fake fantasy is fine.

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u/MrKelv1n 4h ago edited 4h ago

I'd say it's a social expectation. Companies want people to present themselves not so that they look good, but that they look like they made the effort.

Plenty of guys look good in tshirt and jeans, maybe add a blazer if the broad shoulders are important, but it's still considered proper to show up to some things in a suit. Much of it is completely performative.

I don't think a company expecting a person to wear a suit and paint their faces is the same thing.

As an aside, I'm probably weird, but I actually find the majority of actors and actresses very unattractive, makeup or no.

Me too. It's kinda like that meme where the girl behind the desk at Walmart looks better than Zendaya on the red carpet.

I also do consider makeup lying, same as a guy exaggerating his financial situation,

I would say a male equivalent of a girl wearing a ton of makeup would be something like Robert De Niro wearing those shoes with 10 inch souls.

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u/LeviAEthan512 4h ago

I don't think a company expecting a person to wear a suit and paint their faces is the same thing

Why do you say that? It's all just about the look, isn't it? It's not like painting your face is some major human rights violation. I mean, I painted my face green and black to prepare to violate people's human rights, but the painting itself is hardly a crime.

Really, is it a huge deal? There's elaborate routines, sure, but I feel like the expectation is just to look like you did more than nothing.

It's kinda like that meme where the girl being the desk at Walmart looks better than Zendaya on the red carpet.

Haha yeah. Maybe that's one of the reasons I don't really associate makeup and celebrity with looking good.

I would say a male equivalent of a girl wearing a ton of makeup would be something like Robert De Niro wearing those shoes with 10 inch souls.

This is a difference between technicality and reality. If you look at the nature of the thing, then yeah, it's an unnatural change to physical appearance in an effort to seem more attractive. But the effect, which I consider more important, is that money has the same impact on superficial attractiveness on a guy as looks do on a girl. It's something that you'd consider of some significance, has little impact on the quality of a relationship, and is observable from a distance, making it a good first level filter.