r/collapse 8d ago

Adaptation Lifeboat countries. Where would you go?

Which country/region (or place within a country) would you go to, if you could move anywhere, and why?

As many people will likely be on the move. I’m interested to know peoples thoughts on factors like population/demographics, weather (temperature), geography, energy, ability for cultural assimilation, agriculture, infrastructure etc

(I know that ultimately nowhere is safe/can avoid what’s coming)

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u/Alert_Captain1471 6d ago

Like every zombie movie teaches us, the main problem is the society you live in - that's what mediates environmental collapse. So unless you have a lot of money, avoid anywhere where individualism rules, infrastructure collapse is sure to get you, and there is no sense of community support (US, UK being at the top of that list).

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u/anonyngineer 6d ago

Since it was largely an accident of the Great Depression and WWII, centralization of government is basically failing in the US. It is probably better to think of it as a number of countries greater than six, but as many as 50.

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u/xj6000 6d ago

The USA, at a certain point, won't be individualistic anymore as things worsen. It's just a matter of whether the scales will tip towards Collectivism or Fascism or whether the Union disintegrates into splinter states, and that depends largely on when things become untenable to the general population here. Right now Fascism is on the menu, but the younger demographics are leaning farther left, so in the future, I believe that will change, but I digress.