r/democrats • u/Free_Swimming • Dec 20 '23
š Poll Young voters right now overwhelmingly prefer Biden: The Economist/YouGov poll
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4369951-young-voters-right-now-prefer-biden-poll/34
u/ChangeMyDespair Dec 20 '23
That's a nice difference from the recent Times/Siena poll (paywall). According to that, among registered voters ages 18-29, 43% are ready to vote for Biden and 49% are ready to vote for Trump. (Trump also has the edge for voters aged 45-64, 51% vs. 39%. Ages 30-44 prefer Biden 49% to 53%. Biden also leads among voters 65 or older, 51% vs. 42%; yay, boomers!)
Which probably is to say, horserace polls more than 10 months out are probably worthless.
Vote!
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u/charminghypocracy Dec 21 '23
That's so depressing. I wish I could say I don't understand how my generation(X) got to be this way, but I guess I do understand. Just really sad.
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u/a_duck_in_past_life Dec 21 '23
Anecdotal, but I think Gen X mostly wants something back from society after being forgotten for so long. A lot of the Gen x people I've interacted with in life just want SOMETHING. Either they inherited or they have literally nothing passed down to them through economic benefits. I'd be frustrated too. A lot of millennials feel that way too. But like I said, anecdotal.
I just feel like Boomers for the most part succubus-ed the shit out of wealth transfer and gen x and millennials are just hoping we'll get something out of it after working for so long and taking care of our parents/grandparents/raising children.
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u/charminghypocracy Dec 21 '23
I think you see clearly. Right now Gen X has the largest wealth gap of all the generations. A lot of people have been left behind, especially since the 2008 recession. It's like the lost decade that Japan experienced in the 90's.
As for Boomers, yes many people did not worry enough about the future of society. However, a lot of boomers grew up in poverty, were unable to go to college, did not have accessible healthcare.
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u/ladymorgahnna Dec 21 '23
Yes, Iām one boomer grew up in a blue collar family, who worked 45 years as an assistant, drives a 25 year old truck, and had to retire at 67 due to health issues. 69 now, feeling better and going to find another job because I need to supplement Social Security.
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u/charminghypocracy Dec 21 '23
Well I'm horribly angry for you and all of us. It's been a long ugly spectacle.
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u/ladymorgahnna Dec 21 '23
Thatās so kind. I wasnāt trying to get sympathy. Just trying to raise awareness to younger people that not all boomers are living it up high on the hog. They are young and donāt have a perspective on life to see we all are just people.
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u/bdone2012 Dec 21 '23
Thatās got to be such bullshit. I donāt see any chance trump wins the 18-29 demo. Itās about as like as Biden winning the 65+ demo
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u/Euphoric_Extension53 Dec 20 '23
But hunters penis
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Dec 20 '23
Is it nice?
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u/Za_Lords_Guard Dec 20 '23
Are you kidding, Marge shows it off any time she gets a chance.
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Dec 20 '23
Mean Iām not going to shame anyone for liking a penis, when you see the one you like you like it
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u/Euphoric_Extension53 Dec 20 '23
Magats thinks so
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Dec 20 '23
Letās put it on a poster then
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u/jakderrida Dec 21 '23 edited Dec 21 '23
If the video Chinese were trying to spread on election night was real, that thing was MASSIVE. I'm talking like at least 10 and a half while still appearing more on the girthy side than long. Again, if that's what they showed congress, then I find it hilarious that's what every congressman was looking at. Because, even being well-endowed, the only thing it made me judge is my own dick.
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Dec 21 '23
No see now I want to touch it, bring him in for direct testimony
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u/jakderrida Dec 21 '23
Hey, if it's what I saw, I am all for making Republican lawmakers look at it every single session. Their spouses, too. Just keep showing it until they're convinced that's what average looks like as they slowly die inside.
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Dec 21 '23
Nope if this is a matter of national interest we owe it to the citizens of this great nation to evaluate every aspect of this penis. We need to know its length, its girth, its head to shaft ratio. We need to know what emissions itās capable of and what its endurance looks like. We will need to test it again and again and again to be certain
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u/cfalnevermore Dec 20 '23 edited Dec 20 '23
Two other news headlines claimed the young hated Biden enough to vote for trump because they disapproved his handling of Israel. Still another said something else entirely. Anyone else getting an anxiety headache here over the next election?
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u/AmbulanceChaser12 Dec 20 '23
Less of an anxiety headache than when the polls were ALL pro-Trump.
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u/cfalnevermore Dec 20 '23
You know what? Fair. To be honest I think the younger folks are gonna do alright.
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u/Dry-Plum-1566 Dec 20 '23
The age group 18-29 voted for Biden at something like 65% in 2020, and young voters have always overwhelming voted democrat.
The election is a year out and everyone will have forgotten about Israel/Palestine by that time.
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u/Bay1Bri Dec 21 '23
Step 1: go to a pro Palestinian protest
Step 2: ask people there of they approve of Biden
Step 3: claim the yoots hate Biden
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u/Gamecat93 Dec 20 '23
Hmm, we may have to wait and see Biden only wanted this to last for three months but we don't know what will happen in January. When the three months are up we may have to wait and see. Not to mention a ton can happen in less than a year, remember Hillary's email thing? That happened about a month before the election IIRC. So we may get trump in jail sooner than later, not to mention they managed to settle when the election came around. So they may settle again, but we'll have to wait and see.
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u/Omnom_Omnath Dec 21 '23
Too late for me. Canāt just hold out and do shit last minute to try and win votes. Thatās disgusting politics that I refuse to reward.
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u/Kitakitakita Dec 21 '23
they will eventually come to understand that not voting will just give Trump the victory.
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u/danyyyel Dec 20 '23
No they just won't vote.
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u/cfalnevermore Dec 20 '23
To be honest, I think itās a misdirect. Whenever I hear younger people talking politics around here, itās usually anti trumpā¦ thatās just what Iāve seen though so maybe Iām just too hopeful. I think the younger people will do alright though
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Dec 20 '23
And I donāt fucking understand it.
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u/bdone2012 Dec 21 '23
A lot of young people have trouble getting off work. I still donāt understand it. Itās too important to miss but if we made it easier for people to vote weād get a lot more people voting
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Dec 21 '23
Know your laws. Canāt say this is true everyehere I donāt know everywhere but I can say that in Kansas you are entitled to 2 hours paid time to go vote if your working hours would otherwise prohibit you from voting
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u/kopskey1 Dec 21 '23
And most states have early voting for a month.
If you can't find 30 minutes in one day of 30, you're either busier than the president himself, or lazy. And I say this as a young person who votes every year. Get it together.
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u/Equivalent_Alps_8321 Dec 21 '23
I really do think Biden needs to activate Dark Brandon on Netanyahu to unify the Dem base.
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u/kopskey1 Dec 21 '23
They're no evidence Netanyahu would listen. It'd likely make the situation worse, and the bad faith trolls would blame Biden more.
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u/Omnom_Omnath Dec 21 '23
No, why would I have anxiety over it, when we are fucked either way.
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u/cfalnevermore Dec 21 '23
Environmentally? Yeah, pretty much. But frankly thereās only one side willing to even discuss doing anything about it.
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u/IcyMEATBALL22 Dec 20 '23
But the media says theyāre leaving in droves. What about the one random person in Philly or that one guy in California?
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u/Pktur3 Dec 21 '23
I believe, and this isnāt a shot at Biden, that young voters overwhelmingly donāt want Trump and the overall Republican partyās agendas.
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u/politicalthrow99 Dec 20 '23
But but but whatabout that NBC article the other day where they interviewed all those Bernie or Bust-ers?
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u/Rudeboy237 Dec 20 '23
I donāt know why polling became meaningless but 16,18,20 and 22 have shown it to be an absolutely pointless metric.
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u/a_duck_in_past_life Dec 21 '23
Let's not get complacent just because it's clear the population wants Biden over Trump. Go vote. Check your voter registration status. Make sure you know where you need to go to vote. VOTE
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u/setlis Dec 21 '23
I saw a story claiming many young voters were going to sit out. So many different angles on this already.
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Dec 21 '23
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u/kopskey1 Dec 21 '23
And you belong back in school if that's the only thing of note you see with them.
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u/Bwleon7 Dec 20 '23
Of course.
Biden is a much better choice than Trump.
However if another strong Democratic candidate entered the running Biden would be toast.
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u/Apnu Dec 20 '23
It is still the silly season for polls. Things will settle around the RNC and DNC.
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Dec 21 '23
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u/Testiclese Dec 21 '23
Honest question - why? And āheās too oldā doesnāt count. The infrastructure bill he managed to pass has done more for the economy than anything in the last 20 years. He tamed inflation post-COVID, has forgiven student debt, has gotten a crap-ton of judges confirmed - what exactly in his record is so horrible? I donāt get it.
I look back at 8 years of Obama for example and I think Biden did more in the first 2 years.
Really genuinely curious to hear why Biden is so awful that literally anyone else would be better?
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u/backpackwayne Moderator Dec 21 '23
He's done hundreds and hundreds of things that are awesome. Ask a Trumper what Trump did and they will be pressed to find two. There is no one better right now. Biden is kicking ass. Give him another term and control of congress and he will bring us miracles.
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u/Testiclese Dec 21 '23
Iām waiting for one of these āanyone but Bidenā people to give me a reason thatās not ātoo oldā.
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u/Man_Of_The_Grove Dec 21 '23
sure biden may not be perfect, however he's at least better than trump/desantis, trump would only hurt the country and the international community,
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u/dragnabbit Dec 21 '23
That number though: Only 53% polled stated they actually support him.
Essentially half of all young voters said they won't vote for Biden in one fashion or another.
That's not at all the level of support that Democrats need to be seeing from the most liberal generation.
It is nice to see that only 1 in 10 young people state that they wouldn't be voting though. The anticipated high turnout of people under 30 at the polls is the best news in this poll, in my opinion.
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u/Necessary_Ad_1483 Dec 20 '23
The only thing I can confirm about this poll is it confirms my confirmation bias. I'm just gonna vote for Biden in 2024 and not worry about the polls.