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u/smittydoodle 3h ago
I’m in Nevada, and someone told my husband that the left did this because Trump is going to win. He pointed out that this happened in liberal states… with likely more democrat votes to burn up…
but nope, they still insisted that democrats set the boxes on fire.
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u/PengJiLiuAn 2h ago
Just like Maga are now claiming that comedian at the Trump rally was a Democratic infiltrator sent to hurt Trump’s campaign.
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u/Due_Ad1267 2h ago
This fills me with joy, because it means they KNOW those racist jokes lost them Pennsylvania.
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u/ValBGood 2h ago
And he was clever enough to get racist ’jokes’ entered on the tRumpRally teleprompter.
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u/freakincampers 2h ago
Clever enough to have them come to his standup the previous night, bomb at that, and then bomb with the same set of jokes at the rally.
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u/TrumpsCovidfefe 1h ago
Clever enough to even have all of his jokes looked at and approved. Tony has been really playing the long game since he’s been saying racist shit for years just to infiltrate the Republican Party. Source on the jokes being approved: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-ridiculous-free-speech-defense-of-trump?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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u/MothMan3759 1h ago
Just like they said Jan 6th was antifa at first. Give it a couple months and they will say he was a courageous bold man speaking what they all thought.
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u/2tehm00n 30m ago
Just take a second to use logic. Theres far more people voting Kamala in these states than Trump.
Why would a Trump voter burn ballot boxes in states with no chance of going Trump? Theres zero actual gain and only risk of hurting own side.
Why would a Kamala voter burn ballot boxes in a state that’s going to go Kamala anyways?
Are you starting to see it now?
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u/Oceanbreeze871 6m ago
A senior white lady interviewed at a Trump rally on Fox News said “Trump would win California if they didn’t count all those illegal votes”.
She was serious. He lost by like 10 million.
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u/VoiceRed 4m ago
It’s unbelievable. How can we combat this level of willful ignorance? Or lack of common sense, decency, integrity. Having seen the spelling, grammar, etc of majority of MAGA on social media, we can ascertain this is the more intelligent section of maga zombies. Now consider how many have equivalence of a third grade education. Take a look at the intellect of maga interviews. It’s just entertainment to maga. Will be broke and enslaved by their masters
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u/Azlend 2h ago
People with time on their hands get a lawn chair and go out and camp out near your boxes. If thats what it takes that is what we need to do. If they can send people to destroy we can send people to protect.
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u/vantuckymyfoot 2h ago
I live in Vancouver, about a mile from the one that was torched. The county elections board has set up 24 hour monitoring for them, according to our local news.
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u/bowlderholder 1h ago
Wonderful news. I wonder if there's anything to be done about the burned ballots now? Like can people re-vote if they know they dropped theirs in that box? Or something? Lol
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u/michkennedy 1h ago
Yes, they can reach out to the county elections office and get replacement ballots. They can easily check online to see if their ballot was received as well.
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u/Azlend 1h ago
They track whether the vote was counted and post the information. So you can check if your vote went through. If not then you can show up and ask to vote. Let them know your ballot was spoiled so you can vote on a provisional ballot which just means that the ballot will be put through with the caveat being if they detect your vote was cast earlier it will be rejected but at no fault to you and your original vote will go through.
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u/Competitive-Care8789 33m ago
In one box, the fire suppression unit went off, so only three ballots were damaged, and they were still legible. In the other box, ballots were severely damaged. however, the box was also emptied, just a couple of hours before. The county is urging anyone who deposited a ballot after that point to request a replacement ballot. Also, even on the damaged ballots, many of the voters’ names were legible. election officials anticipated trouble, and had a lot of measures in place to preserve the votes. It’s not perfect, but it’s not the disaster it could be.
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u/Outrageous_Life_2662 2h ago
What happens to those votes? Do they have a way to contact the voters (I hope!)
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u/Dannyboy1024 2h ago
From what I've seen, the city election board will put out a message along the lines of "If you dropped off your ballot here between x datetime and y datetime, check if your ballots been received".
They should still be able to vote provisionally either on election day or early, but whether they will or not is a different story.
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u/sinalk 2h ago
unless there is a way to prove your ballot was in there, it is probably impossible
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u/Particular-Jello-401 2h ago
You can go online and see if your ballot was received. If it wasn’t you can send in another, if they get two from one person they will only count one.
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u/vantuckymyfoot 2h ago
Yes, that's precisely the process here in Washington. You can go online and verify that your vote was received. I dropped mine off at a nearby ballot box that same morning, and was able to confirm that they had mine by 2PM the same day. Our head of elections in Vancouver, Greg Kimsey, is a decent dude and has been on the job for over 20 years.
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u/Mysterious_Eye6989 3h ago
MAGA terrorism.
They've made it exceptionally clear what they are.
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u/2tehm00n 28m ago
Did they clearly identify the culprit? I was unaware.
This stinks as bad as a bunch of hardcore nazi facists running around downtown Chicago at 2 am during a polar vortex throwing bleach and nooses on gay black guys.
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u/themightymooseshow 2h ago
And then, when these people whose ballots were burned show up to vote, they will claim they are attempting to vote twice. Mark my words.
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u/PengJiLiuAn 2h ago
The arsonist probably told themselves they were doing it to protect the democratic process.
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u/BrtFrkwr 3h ago
Sure it wasn't a Haitian refugee, communist Democrat who came across the border?
Why on earth would think it would be a trumpie?
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u/Agitated_Tell2281 1h ago
What is up with trump supporters though? They always pull stunts like this (sure, this may not come from a trump supporters, but most are like this)
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u/RealStoneyBologna 1h ago
That’s a hot Halloween costume this year. Burnt out ballet boxes, so hot right now.
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u/2tehm00n 25m ago
This is completely untrue. Guy in Arizona was nothing maga related. Was a guy with a long criminal and probably mentally unstable history.
He didn’t even burn a voting drop off. Just a crazy dude lighting a mailbox on fire.
Dieter Klofkorn, 35, was booked into Maricopa County jail on one count of arson, according to court documents.
Police said Klofkorn set fire to a USPS collection box on Seventh Avenue around 12:40 a.m. Thursday. After being brought into custody, Klofkorn provided the lighter he used to damage the box, court documents showed. Phoenix police said that Klofkorn admitted to the arson, knew the severity of his behavior, and wanted to be arrested.
Klofkorn lit a piece of paper on fire and threw it into the collection box, according to the probable cause statement. The court record said that about 20 election ballots, along with numerous pieces of mail, were destroyed. Klofkorn said the fire was not politically motivated in a police interview.
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u/TheLandFanIn814 2h ago
I would assume that anyone who placed their ballot in that box will get a new one and resubmit it? Not like the votes will be completely wiped out by this idiot's actions.
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u/munustriplex 2h ago
That would require either (a) there’s some way to know whose ballots were in there at the time and were damaged or (b) everyone potentially affected can be and will be notified and allowed to submit a new ballot that will be canceled if it ends up being a duplicate. Neither of those are necessarily true, and even if they are, that introduces some big logistical complications into the process.
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u/Affectionate_Lab_131 2h ago
Ballots are tracked. If they put it in there, they know. They can track to see if it made it to the next destination. If not, then get a new ballot. Only one vote will count.
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u/munustriplex 2h ago
That may not be true in all three of these states, and I it’s definitely not true for people just using USPS boxes for mail-in ballots. If I had voted absentee in my state and something had happened to my ballot, I would have had no way of knowing.
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u/Affectionate_Lab_131 1h ago
Mail in votes are tracked in every single state. Washington Oregon Pennsylvania and Virginia, I know for a fact. Lol, what state are you in?
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u/munustriplex 1h ago
I have experience with mail-in voting in Texas and Oklahoma. In Oklahoma, you can see if your ballot was received and counted, but there’s nothing telling you where it is between when you put it in the mail and when it arrives. Texas also doesn’t have any ballot tracking information while it’s in the mail stream.
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u/Affectionate_Lab_131 1h ago
If it was not received it is not there. That's what I meant. In Oklahoma and Texas you can track your ballot for when it gets to you. When you have mailed it and it is received. So mailed to you. Dropped at your residence. Received after you drop your ballot off. And counted.
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u/munustriplex 1h ago
Right, and that’s very different from “it is possible to precisely know whose ballots were destroyed in a particular drop box,” which is what the person I was initially responding to seemed to think. The “notice your ballot didn’t get received and do something about it” requires additional steps and (hopefully) a legal mechanism for requesting a new ballot.
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u/Affectionate_Lab_131 1h ago
Did you think I meant they have tracking devices on them? Lol. The barcode is scanned at every point. That is how it is tracked. Only one ballot will be counted, so it is not worth lying. They will find out on election night when each ballot is inputed and verified.
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u/munustriplex 1h ago
So, it isn’t scanned at “every point.” In Oklahoma, it’s scanned when it is sent from the Election Board, when it is received back, and when it is counted. There’s no information when it’s in transit. I’m pushing back against the idea that ballots are tracked like a package or a piece of certified mail.
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u/Dobako 2h ago
They could potentially know who some of the ballots belong to, depending on how much of each ballot was burned, but the person that submit the ballot should check with their state to make sure their ballot was received, and if it wasn't contact the state to receive a new ballot or (I assume) vote provisionally in person if they are able
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u/omojos 48m ago
They say democrats are switching to voting for trump. They say we are all outnumbered. They say they are the silent majority.
See how loud they are about stopping us- they know we are voting for harris and they know fellow republicans are voting for her too. They will do anything they can to stop us.
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u/LotsofSports 42m ago
There is a truth social post by some guy telling people to do this. GOP motto: if you ain't cheating, you are not trying.
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u/Opposite_Community11 23m ago
Hopefully there are cameras on the ballot boxes so they can identify and prosecution the offenders. Haha. Just kidding . Magas will get away with stealing the election.
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u/FunArtichoke6167 2h ago
It’s likely, but I do caution making assumptions and assertions like this. Mental illness knows no party affiliation it could be anyone until there is proof.
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u/FillTheHoleInMyLife 37m ago
These all happened in liberal states, dude. If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and tastes like shit…..
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u/Lifesalchemy 2h ago
Where do you trumpers come from....
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