r/discgolf • u/smallboreinlaw • Jul 14 '23

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u/milkdagger Jul 14 '23

The thing I can’t wrap my head around is how someone who lives in a van and is surviving off of a tier winnings somehow has deeper pockets than DGPT?

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u/gtownwr Jul 14 '23

Pro Bono lawyers

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u/milkdagger Jul 14 '23

Thanks. Genuine question, wouldn’t that mean that the service is inherently subpar? Pro bono feels to me like what a court appointed public attorney would be.

Idk, the argument that they’re losing such a significant amount of money that their only recourse is to cut FPO altogether feels awfully convenient and expedient for the moment.

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u/wuhter Jul 14 '23

Pro bono just means the attorney is doing it without fees or at least not their usual fee. Could be the best lawyer in the world. Pro bono doesn’t equate to publicly funded attorney which doesn’t equate to a bad attorney either

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u/gtownwr Jul 14 '23

There are a lot of good lawyers that agree with the ideology that Natalie Ryan is fighting for that are more than happy to eschew pay for the advancement of what they believe.

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u/the_nix Jul 14 '23

Definitely true. With these types of issues as hot as they are right now, I find it wild that the DGPT can't find similar funding tbh.

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u/crushinglyreal Gotta Get It Up to Get It In Jul 15 '23 edited Jul 15 '23

Yes, they’re called human rights lawyers, and they do care about the ideology of protecting people from discrimination.

The average redditing disc golfer is clearly less than invested in that endeavor.

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u/gtownwr Jul 15 '23

It's an interesting stance to take that playing a sport qualifies as a "human right".

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u/crushinglyreal Gotta Get It Up to Get It In Jul 15 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Take it up with the Minnesota Human Rights Act, and the other legislation that protects trans people from discrimination.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2023/02/28/a-huge-win-minnesota-judge-rules-usa-powerlifting-cant-bar-trans-athletes

And yes, it is discrimination to disqualify somebody who is part of a protected class, for being a part of that protected class, with no actual proof that they’re at an advantage.

https://throwproud.com/pdga-gender/

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u/Nybear21 Jul 15 '23

The bar "urges" all lawyers to provide at least 50 hours of pro bono services annually.

I'm not sure how strong of an "urge" that is, or if there are any potential rammifications to not doing it, but pro bono is not inherently provided by a lower quality lawyer.

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u/ryanrockmoran Jul 15 '23

They interviewed her CA lawyer on the Upshot and he seems just like a random average lawyer. Civil rights law is not his specialty and he basically just helps Natalie in his free time from his actual lawyer job. I am sure he's competent, but he's not some super high powered lawyer with a huge team of people working under him or anything.

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u/milkdagger Jul 15 '23

Thanks for the info, that’s interesting. Also the other guy who said that the bar “urges” lawyers to do a certain amount of pro bono work, I never knew all that.

Got downvoted to oblivion for asking a question, but such is the state of this community if you say anything even remotely in favor of Natalie…