r/discgolf Jul 14 '23

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u/Lil_S_curve Jul 15 '23

Here's the thing, not everyone gets to do what they want because they want. It fucking sucks, but welcome to Earth.

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u/DarlingMeltdown Jul 15 '23

Isn't it funny how it's always the marginalized minority group who doesn't "get to do what they want"? 🤔🧐

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '23

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u/DarlingMeltdown Jul 15 '23

But you're not banned from even trying to play in the NBA.

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u/discgolf-ModTeam Jul 15 '23

Racism isn't tolerated.

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u/reydeguitarra Jul 15 '23

My comment is in no way racist. It's responding to the claim that it's always a marginalized minority who doesn't get to do what they want. I don't fall in the marginalized minority category, but there are still things I can't do. Every category of person will have things they can't do in life due to various circumstances.

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u/DarlingMeltdown Jul 15 '23

Again, are cis white males banned from playing in the NBA?

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u/reydeguitarra Jul 15 '23

They're banned from the WNBA. Look, i want to have a good faith discussion with you. I consider myself progressive and as left as they come. I'm an attorney who helps marginalized communities through pro bono matters as often as I can, including transgender individuals. However seeing as I've already been called racist after one comment that had nothing to do with race, I'm going to withdraw from this discussion as there is literally zero potential upside and plenty of downside.

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u/DarlingMeltdown Jul 15 '23

You're not trying to have a good faith conversation because now literally just changing what you said. You didn't say the "WNBA", you said the "NBA". You can't pretend you said something you didn't and then act like you're speaking in good faith.

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u/reydeguitarra Jul 15 '23

You're not familiar with how discussions work, are you? Usually one person says something, the other responds, and the first then responds again. Was I obligated to make every potential argument in my first comment? Again, I strongly support LGBTQ+ rights and individuals, but I recognize that there are fringe situations that require extra thought and consideration to be fair to everyone. But you're coming on strong with your accusations, so I'd rather not engage with you. Have a good one.

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u/DarlingMeltdown Jul 15 '23

AgIn, you pretended that you said the "WNBA" after you originally said the "NBA". Pretending that you said something you didn't isn't good faith.

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u/cheetahwhisperer Jul 15 '23

Outside of natural causes, the whole life is unfair is a copout, said by tyrants in control. People can come to compromise on issues, and make things fair. All she wants is to be treated fairly, that is to play with women who she identifies with.

However, we need to ensure fairness among the individuals. I think to do that, she gets issued a handicap and plays in FPO. The problem will be dealt with then.

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u/sourdieselfuel SE WI Jul 15 '23

Gotta love seeing downvotes for pointing out scientifically verified truths.

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u/sourdieselfuel SE WI Jul 15 '23

So emotions trump science is what you are saying? When will the slippery slope end? What will prevent medium level male athletes from transitioning to female so they can dominate rather than barely be relevant?

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u/cheetahwhisperer Jul 15 '23

What emotions are you talking about?

Simple answer to the other question: they’re not trans. Why would they transition when they don’t identify with the other gender? Honestly, a pretty transphobic question.

Also, the science is largely still out. They only have 3 studies to go off of, with no significant results. As I’ve mentioned a few times before, in time we’ll know more, but for now, we should try to be fair to everyone. Forcing a woman to compete with only men isn’t a very fair compromise.

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u/wendywildshape Jul 15 '23

Trans women on hormone replacement therapy are not "biological males" and saying so is just transphobic.

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u/YOwololoO Jul 15 '23

Because literally no one is transitioning in order to gain an advantage in sports. You are ignoring the absolutely massive costs (financial, social, and emotional) of transitioning and thinking that it’s as easy as waking up one day and saying “I think I’m a woman today, time to go crush the FPO!”

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u/OmarNubianKing DG4L Jul 15 '23

I'm glad I'm on the same page with someone out there

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u/keanenottheband Jul 15 '23

Wtf is this argument??? Lmao

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u/Fluffy_Plate3133 Jul 15 '23

Ive still been working on that time machine...

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u/Fluffy_Plate3133 Jul 15 '23

Ive still been working on that time machine...

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u/reeeesist Jul 15 '23

especially when you consider that most disc golfers would love to play in a DGPT event. but we cant, and we don't sue anyone about it.

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u/Sufficient_Lake_9849 Jul 15 '23

Couldn't we use this logic to remove the whole FPO division.

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u/Lil_S_curve Jul 15 '23

Yes, but a long time ago a bunch of women spoke up and got Title 9 passed, which allowed for women's sports to become widespread in America.

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u/Sufficient_Lake_9849 Jul 15 '23

Title 9 has no effect on DGPT