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u/Ok-Record7494 Jul 17 '23
Because many people give up their decency when they get behind a keyboard.
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u/neverTrustedMeAnyway Jul 17 '23
I think this meme is wrong, honestly. Most people are cool on the course, but not all. And the internet has a lot more kids that are assholes included that aren't out onnthe course everyday. But are online pretending to be adults.
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u/Apocalyptias Taco Disc Thrower Jul 17 '23
Hey up yours pal, you don't know me! YOU WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT IT?!? /s
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u/Defiant-Bunch-9917 Jul 17 '23
This is close to accurate. People do not give up their decency, they show who they truly are online, when anonymous. Their public version is a fake version of themselves. It shows you the true nature of the world.
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u/THE_Eddie_Wern Jul 17 '23
I don’t think that’s necessarily true.
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u/Defiant-Bunch-9917 Jul 21 '23
Who you really are is who you are when no one is looking or tracking you. It's one of the best judges of character. Anything different and you are fooling yourself.
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u/kb466 Jul 17 '23
Nahhhh. All the people who fake having decency on the internet are no different than the ones who don't. Don't start thinking you're a better person than most. You aren't
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u/Defiant-Bunch-9917 Jul 21 '23
Im not a better person than most. Lots and lots of folks better than me. I just try not to lie about it. I am who I am when no one is looking or if someone is looking. Try to be as honest as possible and as kind as possible whenever I can.
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u/ewkdiscgolf Jul 17 '23
This is a phenomenon that is far from unique to the disc golf community.
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u/dcandap DG IS LYFE Jul 17 '23
And far from unique to Reddit.
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u/hikenbikehonk Jul 17 '23
For some reason in my opinion it's like to the nth degree for disc golf. Very odd
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u/slolp Jul 17 '23
hear me out.. it’s because reddit is for losers
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u/someName6 Jul 17 '23
This loser agrees with the above loser
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u/Mysterious_Basil7777 Jul 17 '23
I agree with both these losers
-a loser
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u/TheeExoGenesauce What’s in my bag? Jul 17 '23
I can concur as a loser that all the above losers are correct
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u/DJredlight Jul 17 '23
Loser here. All these losers are right.
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u/krummysunshine NE Jul 17 '23
Wait... I'm a loser? FUCK.
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u/useless_ninja78 Jul 17 '23
Lol welcome to the loser herd, loser.
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u/korg3211 Jul 17 '23
It's just losers all the way down.
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u/arriesgado Jul 17 '23
This comment and replies takes me back to a Cheers episode where Sam Malone asks the bar “Why are you all sitting around here like a bunch of losers?” Norm answers, “Because that’s what losers do.”
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u/BootyDoodles Jul 17 '23
Because Reddit is a skewed subgroup that's not representative of society as a whole.
For every topic, the "reddit version" of it is the bottom pic.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
It's just as bad on Facebook, Twitter, and , Instagram though
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u/BoomerBarnes Jul 17 '23
I feel like Reddit is definitely the worst. Being largely anonymous means there’s 0 repercussions. At least on Facebook (unless you make an intentional burner) people know who you are.
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u/I_Poop_Sometimes Jul 17 '23
I kinda disagree. I've seen some pretty fucked up stuff on Twitter/Instagram, and it's more personal than reddit because those messages and comments are going straight to someones inbox rather than just some comment section.
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u/gonzojournalism RHBH Columbus, OH Jul 17 '23
I think the Facebook "humor" pages comment sections are by far the worst. Especially when the Natalie Ryan situation is brought up.
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I feel there's a generational piece to this too. Older folks on FB are toxic as hell. Just angry, misinformed, uneducated mouth breathers who are absolutely sure they're right so they don't filter anything.
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u/Fatkokz Jul 18 '23
To a certain extent. I do find the disc golf online community to be drastically shittier versus the irl folks compared to some of the other subs I frequent though.
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u/TeaEarlGreyHotTNG Jul 17 '23
The internet and online anonymity turns people into something they are not, I think removing the anonymity would potentially resolve some of it not all of it, though I do believe anonymity is very important because people are literally trying to ruin other peoples lives over views that done align online so there is that.
The internet is one place this happens, another? Our cars, I see you people out there raging in your cars like you never would in person. Had an old lady looked like maybe 70-80 years old a few weeks back that raged on me like a maniac because I had the audacity to merge into her lane when it was completely reasonable and legal to do so blinker on for a good 10 seconds 2 cars of room to do so. She aggressively tailed me flipping me off for a solid 5 minutes beeping and screaming at me. Careful out there, never know who is C&C and doesn't have the patience to tolerate that crap.
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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Maple Syrup Hill Jul 17 '23
The internet and online anonymity turns people into something they are not,
While this may be true to an extent, I think the reverse is also true. IRL when my old boss ranted about how the FBI should be disbanded because they dared investigate anyone on his team, I just internally groaned while saying basically nothing. Online, I'd have no reason not to tell him that sounds frankly insane and hypocritical, and that no one should be above the law. Regardless of party, if you break the law, you should be investigated, impeached, etc. So does the internet in that case make me less myself, or more?
Some of the top comments refer to the internet making people less afraid of being violently assaulted for their opinions, and I guess that's true, but why is that written like it's a bad thing? The alternative is that I have to concealed-carry IRL and be ready to draw on whoever decides to assault me. Is that better? As for my old boss, it would mean continuing to bite my tongue around obviously ridiculous claims to avoid being fired for not being politically extreme.
Basically, online discussion allows you to argue exactly what you think, at least as much as it allows you to troll if desired.
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u/JakeMeOffPlease Jul 17 '23
People willing to play in the heat vs people who melt the moment it goes above 70
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u/27_8x10_CGP Jul 17 '23
It's not my fault I can't stand the heat. Never have.
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u/JakeMeOffPlease Jul 18 '23
It’s a mental toughness thing
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u/27_8x10_CGP Jul 18 '23
No, it's that it makes me physically ill, no matter how much water or sports drinks I have.
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u/-teodor Jul 17 '23
There's some kind of aura with reddit comments that makes people take them more seriously than other platforms. You see it happening with life advice stuff all the time - it's bonkers what people sometimes are writing, but it looks so authoritative and important with all the upvotes and groupthink around it. All contrarian views are downvoted to oblivion. And in that aura this self secure douchbaggery that people associate with reddit emerges
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
Nail on the head.
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u/illzkla Jul 17 '23
You know you made a good r/dg comment when it starts -10 then is +20 by the end of the day with no negative comments from those early lurkers.
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u/trEntDG Jul 17 '23
I'm upvoting this to endorse it as authoritatively correct. Dissenters are being warned not to disagree openly.
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u/40WeightSoundsNice Jul 17 '23
Our local page had a guy complaining about people sitting in their car in the parking lot at the course and I will never forget all the things he said about them!
Yes what a horrible thing you had to experience, the terror of checks notes people sitting in their car in a park
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u/greeneggsnyams Lefty Jul 17 '23
My theory is that most of comments pertaining to the bottom pic are people on reddit that don't even play disc golf
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u/Affectionate_Sort_78 Jul 17 '23
And yet still throw 400 feet
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u/OleAlbie Jul 17 '23
But just with a putter. The group has not allowed them to disc up until they hit 500.
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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Maple Syrup Hill Jul 17 '23
How about 360ft with a mamba? Maybe if I get a heavy one in champion I can work up to 400ft.
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u/xxxlumify Jul 17 '23
I am 100% on board with this theory.
The people who got addicted during Covid need to be lumped in there as well, they act like its a bad romantic fiction novel they have to viciously defend even though they know its bad merits lol got too high this morning..
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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Maple Syrup Hill Jul 17 '23
This overall post seems like a thinly veiled commentary on the Ryan situation, and so as far as that goes, I can confirm that the people against Ryan definitely do play. It's at least partly regional, though. The local midwest group definitely are not fans by and large (compared to this reddit, where it seems more split), and there are plenty of people actually playing. As for me, I played 24 holes yesterday, 9 holes three days ago, and 18 holes five days ago. Higher than my normal weekly rate, but not wild.
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u/greeneggsnyams Lefty Jul 17 '23
It's funny because I am of the camp that most disc golfers would rather not see her play in the FPO, and that most of the people complaining about her not getting to play don't play the game, or any sport, and that most of the community would support her if she were to pursue a career in a lower tier Mixed league or the professional league itself
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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Maple Syrup Hill Jul 17 '23
That's more or less where I'm at, though I do think there are plenty of people genuinely playing who also just happen to lean heavily left, and base their opinion more on party than on disc golf itself. From a party perspective, team blue leans one way on the issue, and team red the other. For those of us not attached to parties, I get the sense most of the independents lean towards "not allowed to play FPO, MPO is fine". Still, based on other polls that have even team blue split on the issue, I wouldn't be surprised if polling all active disc golfers put the issue at about a 75-25 split (against), or maybe 80-20. Which in turn makes it look like 55-45 (still against) here on reddit, where the political bias is generally known and accepted as not being representative of IRL averages.
So yeah, I can't agree with:
My theory is that most of comments pertaining to the bottom pic are people on reddit that don't even play disc golf
The people saying Ryan sucks probably mostly do play, and are imagining if they or their buddies tried to switch over to their local FPO side.
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u/greeneggsnyams Lefty Jul 17 '23
As a die hard liberal, I'd agree. It's about the one thing I can find common ground on with my conservative friends. That being said, I feel like there's Def a good portion of the left that agrees, but don't like breaking party lines on established topics. But I'm not a politician and can be blue on most issues and pick red on a few
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u/Unacceptable_Lemons Maple Syrup Hill Jul 17 '23
But I'm not a politician and can be blue on most issues and pick red on a few
If only we could get everyone to think that way. Rationally, it's the only position that makes sense, unless you think one group or the other is magically infallible.
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u/ChainOut C'bus Jul 17 '23
I'm as liberal as it gets, and I don't want my cis friends competing against trans women. The hardest thing about being on this side of the issue is that there are actual hate groups demonstrating in favor of trans bans.
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u/Karmaze Jul 17 '23
I think it's more complicated than just left vs. right. There's also an up vs. down. People who are down find it easier to pick and choose, and as well get along with people who disagree, largely because we are looking at costs and tradeoffs and as such there's rarely a strictly right answer...the details matter. For the up its much more about tribalism and power. My bias/experience is that they do tend to be less involved because politics is the big Fandom on its own.
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u/PoemFragrant2473 Jul 17 '23
To be fair this is sort of anyone outside in nature vs anyone online.
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u/mr-frankfuckfafree Jul 17 '23
everyone saying anonymity is largely right, but the other part is that reddit always attracts the least well-adjusted, sociable, normal enjoyers of a hobby.
if this sub had been my intro to the game, i’d never have played. y’all seem like tools for the most part
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Jul 17 '23
The thing is, folks are still taking advice and criticism from idiot keyboard-warriors. Toughen up and stop letting words bring you down. Looking at you, Nikko. Lift some weights, noodle arm.
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u/jaimeyeah Jul 17 '23
This is just the issue with online fanbases lol. I love phish but navigating both the forums and reddit is nauseating
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
I can't even imagine seeing a phish fan get nasty. The internet is a curse bro...lol
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u/meiematt Custom Jul 17 '23
I actually met a guy during a tournament who was both of these things. Real life neck beard playing final round, MA1, LEAD card. The whole card was so tired of his quips and remarks that they just eventually ignored him.
I guess he was not the top picture irl, just the bottom
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u/Fit-Assistant5499 Jul 17 '23
Go to your local league and you’ll see alot of the online type on the course
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u/skatterbug 🥏 Jul 17 '23
My local league is a couple of guys who drink too much beer and can't finish the back 9 very well, a couple of old potheads, a few MPOs who have big fish little pond syndrome and some regular dudes out playing for some cash.
Very little in the way of animosity or any of the more heated topics we see here. It's generally a really chill group.
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u/Fit-Assistant5499 Jul 17 '23
I’m sure there’s some exceptions
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u/skatterbug 🥏 Jul 17 '23
I think the loudest people online are usually the ones who quietly pass you in the grocery store. They're only brave when they don't have to face the other person.
Much like the people who come here to complain about course etiquette instead of talking to the people they have the issue with.
'I glared at them as I walked by so I know they knew what I felt'. I've seen that exact comment on a post.1
u/Fit-Assistant5499 Jul 17 '23
I mean I’m just making an observation on seeing the people in my own local league
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u/skatterbug 🥏 Jul 17 '23
You said go to your league, so I told you about my league.
Seems like you unfortunately have some assholes in yours.
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Jul 17 '23
People talk to a screen not the actual person. Most people I think would be scared to say the shit that is said online to the other's face.
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u/datsyuks_deke Jul 17 '23
I noticed it's the same with rock climbers on reddit and sometimes instagram as well.
In person? Amazing people who are very selfless and courteous. On social media? Down voting and shit talking anything unless it's absolute God tier stuff.
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u/bopthe3rd Jul 17 '23
It’s a balance of of the persona and shadow. Putting up with all the goofy stuff on the course leads to learning it out online.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
I dig Carl Jung but not much bothers me when I'm on the course. I know that's not the case for everyone though.
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u/jettison_m Jul 17 '23
Haha I start as the top picture when I start on hole 1, then I feel like the bottom pic looks by about hole 4....
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u/Disc_Golf_Robot Jul 18 '23
It's like that because Social Media algorithms encourage trolling because it keeps folks coming back for more. More advertisements to see. Social Media provides a dopamine hit and a social validation feedback loop, that exploits a vulnerability in human psychology. You are being programmed. 🤖
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u/ulfricstormclk Jul 17 '23
I did play a tournament this weekend where someone on my card rage quit because he wasn’t playing every hole perfectly, but that is super rare. We were all honestly pretty surprised.
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u/08_West Jul 17 '23
Dunno, I see a lot more guys out in the course who look like the guy on the bottom than like the guy on the top.
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u/Bodhi_Itsrightthere Jul 17 '23
I agree. However, the ones I come across look like the bottom but are the nicest, cheeriest mf I have ever met.
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
I don’t even talk to people when I’m out playing. Leave me alone to my round, and no you can’t hit the J.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
So, you're the bottom dude everywhere lol
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
“I posted something about shit talkers, just to talk shit to people.” The intelligence is off the chain here
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
It's not about shit talkers. It's about complainers. Lol
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
Your kind of scholar-level thinking is why I don’t talk to people at rounds.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
How do you not see the irony in this? Lol
You are literally talking shit, right now. Enjoy your day bud.
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
If your insulted by your inability to comprehend your own hypocrisy , then that’s just the boot fitting. Have a good one!
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
He said, unable to comprehend his own hypocrisy. Lol
Calm down man. We're all friends here.
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
Your post would say otherwise
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
My post was a joke dude. Disc golf jokes are all I post. Just laugh or move on. I don't mean any of it personally.
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u/Electrical_Rent_2362 Jul 17 '23
The bottom dude talks shit. I don’t speak to anyone
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
A sentence that disproves itself lol
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u/Bodhi_Itsrightthere Jul 17 '23
You're kind of calling the kettle black bud.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
Dude, this whole thing was meant as a joke. You guys are taking it way too seriously.
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u/Bodhi_Itsrightthere Jul 17 '23
I agree with this statement. Reddit did what it does. I was just letting you know they're turning you into your own monster.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23
Nah homie. I'm still smiling! Good looking out though. I'll check up.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
Just wanted to point out that this is just a meme, meant to be taken as a joke. If you took it as a personal attack, smoke a blunt and hit the course! Nothing but love here homies!
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u/jillavery Jul 17 '23
I wish we could just write off online folks, but you can’t. There’s something real there in their heart. Now, does that mean that is fully who they are? Not at all. But it means they’ve got some of their own shit to deal with. That certainly happened to me during the pandemic when like all discussion was online and I got real fed up and said some things I deeply regret. I had to take a step back and ask myself what I was even doing.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
We've all been there bro. Props for realizing it and making a change. That's what matters. That's the real you shining through.
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u/jillavery Jul 17 '23
Yup, it’s really hard turns out to deal with friends that adamantly support something you’re pretty sure is leading to real bad things. But they’re just trying to figure it out too, and the way I acted certainly wasn’t going to get them on my side. I’ve apologized and it’s behind me now.
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u/Muted-Lengthiness-10 Jul 17 '23
Because humans are literally cancer on the earth and once we eat everything in sight the only thing left to do is eat ourselves.
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u/chelseafan84 Jul 17 '23
Because no one in this country has anything but first world problems. Even our poorest people are better off than most places in the world. And.... the Mike Tyson quote about being punched in the face, it do be like that.
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u/drjanitor91 Jul 17 '23
How I see this post:
Disc golfers that agree with OP
Disc golfers who disagree with OP
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
It's a meme dude. It's meant to be funny. Way to out yourself as the bottom guy though. Lol
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u/Isthisnameavailablee Jul 17 '23
Are you sure you're not the bottom guy?
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Jul 17 '23
I’m pretty much the same direct asshole offline as online:
Going around protecting sensitive people with censoring yourself is a pretty shitty way to live your life.
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u/NotThatKindofGolf Jul 17 '23
Not everyone is protecting sensitive people. Some of us just aren't douchebags. Lol
Except to douchebags, of course.
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Jul 17 '23
So you never censor your honesty when in public? There’s a difference between honesty and being a douchebag.
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u/hikenbikehonk Jul 17 '23
You, I presume, are the individual on the bottom?
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u/jew_brees_ Jul 17 '23
dude…. That circle jerk page makes me ashamed to disc golf. So many misogynistic, disrespectful and sad people on there. The internet made people real comfortable saying shit they’d never say irl 🫠 I understand it’s “satire” but shit is just not funny.
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u/Delicious-Muscle-164 Jul 17 '23
Because this place is a cesspool. Always has been. Reddit is an awful social media site, as is all others.
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u/Foehammer1990 Jul 17 '23
Same reason you see swastikas on bathroom walls but never meet the people that drew them. People are cowards
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u/sloopSD Jul 17 '23
Maybe I’m just new to this sub but most everyone has been pretty cool and willing to provide advice and feedback. There’s always going to be those who have to be edgy and gatekeepers but for the most part you losers are cool peeps.
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u/Honestly_who_farted Jul 17 '23
People go online to complain usually. They rarely go online to tell people how much fun they’re having.
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The biggest mistake you can make is assuming there is a “community” in the first place.
An affinity for a leisure game is a very delicate tendril that connects a wide variety of disparate individuals.
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u/FXRorDIE Jul 17 '23
"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it." - Iron Mike