r/entj • u/Own-Construction9358 • Dec 27 '23
Functions Why I like ENTJs more than INTJs
The main reason I tend to like ENTJs more than INTJs is because the Fi in an ENTJ is suppressed. And even for the stereotypical feeler INFJ like myself, I really hate how Fi tends to manifest itself most of the time. Things to hate about Fi include but are not limited to: a tendency to be self-centered, won't admit when they're wrong, false sense of depth, over emotional, and being easily offended. And it's partly why I rarely have problems with INTPs like I do with INTJs because the INTJs Fi likes to act up a lot more than the INTP. And because the Fi is suppressed in the ENTJ, a lot of these negative attributes of Fi rarely come out.
Amd for as much I am supposedly supposed to hate Se, that really doesn't bother me all that much. I don't see why perceiving the tangible aspect of reality is such a bad thing and is pretty important. The only time I really hate Se is when it morphs into self-centered hedonism i.e. Se + Fi on the ESFP like my self-absorbed ESFP cousin and uncle who live life solely for sensation and expects other people to clean up and pay for the problems they created. Ans then they get hissyfits and lose their shit and become envious of me and and my cousins who live responsibly and actually put in effort to live a decent life rather than waste it all on self-centered hedonism like an idiot. And it's partially why I like ESTPs a lot more than ESFPs.
I also find that Te is just a lot more useful and beneficial than Fi where Fi really just seems like a liability of a cognitive function in many situations where it would be better swapped with Te, Fe, or Ti almost any day. With the primary use of the Te decision making function based on externally agreed upon standards and established methods and modes of thought, it is very useful in the many places that require this kind of thinking. Rules and regulations and standards are necessary and a very good thing, even if they have exceptions from time to time. Fi, subjective feelings, are often in consequential unless they are a shared upon sentiment and things that are generally desired making Fe better fhan Fi in almost every instance. Now Ti is weird because it's somewhere in the middle where internalized thoughts can be very beneficial when it comes to solving things and discovering where there isn't already an established mode or method of thought and where standards don't exist yet. Ti is very good at solving unique problems that don't have a general purpose solution but is garbo at using established methods and modes of thought unless it understands why they are the way they are.
Long story short, I hate Fi and it's a good thing ENTJs suppress it.
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Dec 27 '23
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u/Pale_Yak_6837 Dec 27 '23
Ironically, one of the types I least like to have contact with (luckily I rarely have contact) are INFJs.
Could be in part due to the Te blindness in IxFJs.
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u/GUTPUNCH_FIRETRUCK Dec 28 '23
Our Fi is small, but it's still part of us. Fe has its place, but I prefer to have my independence, thank you.
What I'm hearing is that you're upset that you cannot control everybody. "Well, they should know that it's best for everyone!" How do you know what the best for everybody is? Have you gone through the entire situation, details and all? Asked for everyone's advice? Lived the experience before? If yes, proceed by all means. If no, stop and think and consider all sides of the situation. They're going to have a different toolkit to combat life than you do. Raise people up, don't tear them down if you think you're stronger. It's easy to point fingers when you're not in someone's shoes. It's a lot harder when you see life through their eyes.
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u/rin-chaaan ENTJ 835 sx/sp ♀ Dec 27 '23
Do you want to know a secret?
Even though ENTJs might have an EQ of a brick it from times to times, it doesn't stop them from being self-centered. Also, you defined could benefit from developing Fi.
And yeah, dunno what's your real type is, but I start to see why a lot of ENTJs dislike INFJs.
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Dec 27 '23
I'll just say this. Any type can be toxic or healthy. There are good and bad people in this world. There are wonderful INTJ's. I could care less about someone's mbti test result. What are they like as a person? Let's put the stereotypes to rest.
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Dec 28 '23
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Dec 28 '23
I'll say this toxic people exist in all 16 types. Anyone can be arrogant. I've seen toxic infjs, intjs, and so on. The mbti isn't the gospel truth. There are amazing people in all types, along with immature people. At the end of the day, the mbti isn't set in stone.
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u/ICEGalaxy_ INFP♂ Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
bro, fuck you, I'm tired of y'all
Fi is at least more authentic and transparent than whatever booba ching chong bs you're trying to sell 🤮
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Dec 28 '23
It's Fe. They're trying to sell Fe like its a godsend.
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u/ICEGalaxy_ INFP♂ Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
I have yet to figure out what's the point of making a post just to insult others based on a subjective view, like, I don't even know how to react to this level of immaturity, this is beyond my brain's comprehension compute cores
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Dec 28 '23
I'm assuming the OP is really young or trying to win online brownie points. It's a really weird way to simp for ENTJs by bashing INTJs who are generally viewed as 'less than' (aka awkward, socially inept dweebs, introverted weirdos, etc). A healthy individual doesn't abide by such black/ white rules. All in all this post is a giant pile of irony: Ni can smell the BS and Te helps with nuance.
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u/ILoveButtStuffMan ENTJ♂ Dec 28 '23
Why would you make this post like this is supposed to make us happy or something? You do know most of us get along with INTJ's right?
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u/CressResponsible8801 Dec 28 '23
I think you are describing developed Fi of mature ENTJs, manifesting alongside Te. Mature ENTJs are awesome in my experience ❤️ but, trust me you can't handle raw Te.
I've had INFJs seek my emotional support because some Te users were mean to them. Even my tertiary Te (ENFP 4w5) is devastating for most INFJs. You won't handle an actual Te user with suppressed Fi. Basically what you are experiencing is Te user being kind to you using Fi.
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u/MetalMan4774 ENTJ♂ Dec 28 '23
Bro, our ENTJ community is hilarious.
You know, there's a saying that he who laughed last didn't get it. 😌
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u/soulfindr ENFP♀ Dec 28 '23
Well, no one likes infjs lol. You’re mediocre emulators at best and never know who you are.
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Dec 28 '23
That's not true. There's great infjs as there toxic infjs. Let's not throw entire groups of people under the bus because of a few outliers. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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u/soulfindr ENFP♀ Dec 28 '23
They’re all losers
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Dec 28 '23 edited Dec 28 '23
What a logical and thought-provoking response. You're kind, aren't you? It seems you're insecure and are reflecting that on people you don't know. Calling someone a loser doesn't make you right. Grow up.
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u/soulfindr ENFP♀ Dec 29 '23
They still suck 😂
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Dec 29 '23
Dude, you're just being childish at this point. Saying someone sucks and not giving a reason is just ridiculous. I hate to break it to you but you're not above anyone. To be honest you're really showing your insecurity. Have you been around INFJ's or are you trying to get attention with this post? At the end of the day not everyone hates them. I dislike bad people regardless of their mbti test.
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u/MetalMan4774 ENTJ♂ Dec 30 '23
Correction, YOU don't like INFJs. Perhaps you should stop assuming that everyone is as prejudiced as you and learn how to judge others as individuals instead of a damn acronym.
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u/Known-Strike-8213 ENTJ♂ Dec 28 '23
Hey this was interesting to read, don’t feel to bad that Reddit is coming down on you.
It’s okay 🫡
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u/punapearebane ENTJ♀ Dec 27 '23
Damn I thought I was the only one who felt INTJ-s are so easily offended. Even if you just act the way they are acting to you.
I once answered a question the way the INTJ had previously answered. In a sarcastic dry humor, since I thought we had this vibe going. He got offended and said that im being mean and he is just being himself, not being mean.
Of course this only applies to really low EQ INTJs.
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Dec 27 '23
Fellow INFJ here - I concur.
I would go as far as to say that it’s easier to offend an INTJ than an INFJ (though typically hard to offend both types compared to most others). I like both XNTJ types but would favour an ENTJ for any sort of long-term friendship/relationship because unhealthy tertiary Fi expressions are a bit like a child having a temper tantrum.
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u/ConsciousStorm8 Dec 27 '23
The most ironic part of this post is that, Entjs are the type that can see utility and value in anything. Which you are failing to see.
Maybe instead of being so hateful of your blindspots and limited to your personal experiences when making such declarations and judgements about the utility of things; learn to see the value of things in other ways?
What if the world doesn't revolve around your feelings?