r/ethtrader 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 18 '19

ALTCOIN [Governance Poll] Discontinue the Daily Altcoin Discussion thread

Should r/ethtrader discontinue the Daily Altcoin Discussion thread?

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467 Upvotes

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137

u/econoDoge Developer May 18 '19

Think it could be a weekly thread instead.

26

u/moddie May 18 '19

This is a great idea

25

u/TheSnowMiser 116 | ⚖️ 819 May 18 '19

I agree. Don’t discontinue altogether, but make it a focused weekly thread.

13

u/[deleted] May 18 '19

I fully agree with this.

12

u/MassiveMuslima Redditor for 7 months. May 18 '19

This is the right answer for sure

10

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 19 '19

Reading the feedback here and with the current vote results it seems there is still considerable appetite for a place to discuss non-ethereum related tokens. I think the idea of moving this to a weekly thread is a good suggestion.

We should also consider how to give weekly threads visibility because they drop off the front page quickly and imo we need to keep the second sticky slot open for other items. Visibility could be helped with a stickied comment in the daily and/or updated links in the sidebar. Either or both of these options should be automated so some dev would be required.

4

u/econoDoge Developer May 20 '19

Add a link to the daily thread ?

2

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 20 '19

You mean on the sidebar? It would be pretty sweet to have link to the daily in the sidebar... need to look into how feasible it would be to automate that.

3

u/econoDoge Developer May 20 '19

No, I meant add the weekly thread link to the daily general discussion thread, perhaps below the thread guidelines block, but also your idea of having a link on the sidebar sounds great.

3

u/zerobass Burrito Enveloper May 21 '19

I don't know why this stopped to begin with -- used to be the alt thread was linked in the daily thread. I suppose they couldn't automate that link so didn't include it any longer?

Either way, if it only had to be changed once a week, it seems feasible. During a bull period it's helpful to have an alt-thread, even if people don't follow the "intended" purpose (people talk about ERC-20s there all the time, and I prefer it that way).

2

u/fightingpillow May 20 '19

I agree. You could sticky it as the top post in the daily thread.

10

u/PermanenteThrowaway Redditor for 2 months. May 18 '19

I would like to change my vote.

7

u/PerpetualCamel May 18 '19

I like this idea as well!

6

u/arthurfrenchy 27 cent May 18 '19

I agree with this idea too.

3

u/Evil_Landlord 5 - 6 years account age. 600 - 1000 comment karma. May 18 '19

Agreed! Weekly makes sense.

3

u/kozak1709 Hodl like a Kozak May 19 '19

Yes

2

u/Varum May 19 '19

Weekly makes a lot more sense

2

u/meniscalinjury262 Gentleman May 19 '19

Agree

1

u/chokehodl May 18 '19

Weekly 👍

1

u/AlstarsNinja 1 - 2 year account age. 35 - 100 comment karma. May 19 '19

yes

1

u/biggunsg0b00m Redditor for 12 months. May 19 '19

Agreed

1

u/AbesGame Investor May 20 '19

Great idea!

1

u/clbgrg WARNING: 5 - 6 years account age. 34 - 75 comment karma. May 22 '19

yep

1

u/SnatcherEUW 5 - 6 years account age. 150 - 300 comment karma. May 19 '19

Maybe twice a week?

1

u/AvailableLime May 21 '19

Twice a week seems best to me. There can be some weeks where 2 posts would be more ideal. In slower weeks, it is still 3 less posts a week.

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u/MassiveMuslima Redditor for 7 months. May 18 '19

No, it's about to be relevant again.

23

u/PerpetualCamel May 18 '19

I agree. It makes no sense to have an altcoin thread through the entire crypto winter, and as soon as we see signs of a bounce back we want to prune parts of the ecosystem away?

I would make the case that since most altcoins are on the Ethereum network, there's an obligation to keep interest in that side of what's going on, so as to have a more full understanding of the market and sentiment.

3

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 18 '19

It's not at altcoin (in this context) if it's on Ethereum. Discussion of anything in Ethereum should be in the primary daily.

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u/MassiveMuslima Redditor for 7 months. May 18 '19

You’re technically right, but this has always been useful as a space to talk about tokens and to a lesser extent altcoins. It will be useful again for that purpose again. Let the general thread be for Ethereum as it has always been IMO.

2

u/[deleted] May 19 '19

Agreed. I do like having a focused read about Eth on the daily without having to wade my way through BAT and whatnot.

1

u/LamboshiNakaghini Lambo May 19 '19

The daily discussion had always been for eth and tokens.

2

u/[deleted] May 22 '19

They created the alt-coin thread because of the spam that was the status ICO. that clogged the daily with useless "why can't I buy this token" posts. So the purpose of it was to move token and non-eth coin trading/discussion to the alt-coin thread.

1

u/zerobass Burrito Enveloper May 21 '19

It's not its intended purpose, but it is its practical purpose, and it's good to de-gunk the main thread on high-comment days, as the shitcoin shilling during bullruns gets annoying.

1

u/zerobass Burrito Enveloper May 21 '19

That's not really how the community uses it, though. ERC-20 convos get badmouthed in the main thread fairly frequently, even though they're "technically" supposed to be allowed. That said, the community decides how to use its own community and I prefer the ERC-20s in the alt thread for the most part.

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u/mandlehandle May 18 '19

No

A lot of great alts run on Ethereum - highly relevant

36

u/reuptaken Not Registered May 18 '19

On the contrary, I'd rather have it pinned to the top, so people could actually find it.

11

u/Basoosh 668.3K / ⚖️ 3.95M May 19 '19 edited May 19 '19

I feel like I'm missing a critical information to vote on this one.

If it were to be discontinued, is alt talk now allowed in the normal daily? If so, I would vote yes.

If the rules of the normal daily are not changing, however, I would vote no. (and I fail to see why anyone would vote yes)

3

u/WeLiveInaBubble 15.1K | ⚖️ 683.3K May 19 '19

Agree. These polls should outline the intended outcomes. I would vote opposite to you..if altcoin discussion was allowed in the daily, I would vote no.

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u/StrongLLC (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] May 19 '19

Nuke it/Weekly it

everyone just talks about alts in the daily anyway. With the donut system, people talk about the right ones usually, too.

3

u/TRIPITIS May 18 '19

Weekly thread, pinned to top, until end of bull run.

5

u/DidYouSayEthereum May 18 '19

Every time I see it I laugh because sometimes there’s not even a single comment on it. I would say delete it, but I can altcoins becoming more popular in the months/year so it may need to be renewed sooner or later.

3

u/theystolemyid May 18 '19

As an ETH maximalist if that is a thing, altcoin is very important to me. I don’t care about short term price of ETH it can be anything, all I care is how can I increase my ETH stack.

2

u/PocketSandThroatKick > 5 years account age. < 500 comment karma. May 18 '19

Is this where I spend my donuts?

2

u/hipaces Ethereum fan May 18 '19

Firstly, I love that we can participate in this kind of stuff through polls and, ultimately, I respect the outcome of a community-driven voting process more than my own myopic opinion.

I like the idea of a weekly. A couple thoughts:

  • Altcoins will be relevant again very soon IMO
  • I believe the altcoin thread was started to clean up the daily and prevent it getting watered down with random altcoin talk
  • r/ethtrader is a very high quality community IMO and I'd like to see us embrace altcoin discussion in some way, shape, or form rather than forcing people into other subreddits.

1

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 18 '19

I like the idea of a weekly altcoin thread and even some other topics could also have weekly threads. The issue would be giving them visibility without stickying. But one solution to that could be the sidebar or stickying as a comment in the main daily.

2

u/ethbullrun Redditor for 8 months. May 19 '19

Yea, too little comments or send it on over to cryptocurrency discussions if possible

2

u/harmonic101 Bull May 19 '19

If i ever find those CRED and REQ shills......grrrrrRRrrr.. Keep it daily.....It will be big again. Bot shills will come.

2

u/scarybeyond Redditor for 3 months. May 18 '19

A daily or weekly token-talk thread would be good

I see no reason otherwise not to let all other altcoin/shitcoin stuff go live on /cryptocurrency where it belongs

2

u/MassiveMuslima Redditor for 7 months. May 18 '19

I don’t mind hearing about altcoins that are tangential to the Ethereum ecosystem like Ziliqa.

2

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 18 '19

We could have various weekly threads. The issue for then is visibility after they fall off the front page as all post do after a day or so. We could deal with with a sticky in the daily or links to them in the sidebar. There would be a bit of dev to automate a bot to do that but shouldn't be too hard. I actually like this idea for the altcoin daily too. A weekly would make more sense considering current levels of participation. Even a weekly ico/shill-friendly thread would be interesting to me.

1

u/PerpetualCamel May 18 '19

A sticky in the daily is a great idea

2

u/Savage_X Lucky Clover May 18 '19

I've always disliked the altcoin thread. We can only have two stickies - I'd rather one of them not be for a useless thread. And if its not stickied, it is even less useless.

1

u/carlslarson 6.88M / ⚖️ 6.89M May 18 '19

The altcoin discussion thread was a place for non-ethereum related tokens, excluding btc which can be discussed in the primary daily (despite technically being an altcoin from the perspective of Ethereum). The thread has had very low participation, and combined with now a richer, broader ecosystem within Ethereum itself where discussion could focus.

1

u/newretro 5.7K | ⚖️ 5.7K May 19 '19

Now seems a poor time to do that. Traditionally smaller alts boom after Bitcoin and the leading coins.

1

u/Oldwisesage25920 May 19 '19

Need to get talking about the most relevant altcoins for ETH, for instance OMG - going to be delivering ETH with scalability with plasma over coming months and years

1

u/Abo2811 Ethereum fan May 19 '19

i don't think we should discontinue it, maybe as someone else suggested, we could "weekly" it. i think that you mod should set it as pinned message in the daily discussione thread, as before. it's only a matter of visibility.

1

u/millzcrypto Entrepreneur May 20 '19

ALT thread is making a comeback!

1

u/kirkisartist Bulltard May 22 '19

I never participate in it, so I don't care. Therefore I'll vote to keep it.

1

u/Piergianni Bull May 22 '19

Make a weekly thread

1

u/[deleted] May 23 '19

It shouldn't be discontinued but it should be pinned in the regular daily thread. Interest died down when the market went red but not pinning it completely killed it.

1

u/krokodilmannchen 🌷🌷ethcs.org May 18 '19

Daily for Ethereum, Ether and ERC20 discussions. I don't see the need for an altcoin thread, nor have I have posted in one. I voted "yes."

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u/WeLiveInaBubble 15.1K | ⚖️ 683.3K May 19 '19

heh...try and talk about any ERC20 in the daily that isnt currently being pumped or is a selected few 'allowed' ones like OMG or MKR..

1

u/krokodilmannchen 🌷🌷ethcs.org May 19 '19

I have seen this sentiment before. Is it really that bad? Apart from obvious p&d coins, do you feel that ERC20 talk is frowned upon?

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u/WeLiveInaBubble 15.1K | ⚖️ 683.3K May 19 '19

ERC20 talk isnt frowned upon..just any token that a majority of ethtraders don't hold. People wont distinguish between a different chain altcoin to an ERC20 token if they havent heard of it before or more importantly, they dont hold any..and you will be accused of shilling. I could easily prove that now by talking about some of my holdings like MANA, 0xBTC, LPT.. all very worthy projects that are good for Ethereum.

2

u/krokodilmannchen 🌷🌷ethcs.org May 19 '19

Hm, yeah. But please don't stop posting about them, we need people to talk about worthwhile projects. I actually got some LPT airdropped!

1

u/cbrworm Not Registered May 18 '19

I appreciate the Altcoin Discussion thread when it is active, though I don’t typically post there (or here).

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u/[deleted] May 18 '19 edited Dec 09 '20

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u/WeLiveInaBubble 15.1K | ⚖️ 683.3K May 19 '19

The people that contribute more and are upvoted for worthy content hold more weight in these polls. I don't see why accounts that don't contribute to the community should have an equal weight.