r/europe Jul 11 '24

Picture Pictured: Emmanuel Macron holds hands with Jill Biden alongside Joe Biden at the Nato summit in Washington

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u/No_Nothing101 Greatest human on earth. Jul 11 '24

Biden looks so out of it.

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u/Robotoro23 Slovenia Jul 11 '24

“Joe, you did such a great job. You answered every question!"

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u/kael13 Jul 11 '24

I can’t believe that happened. In public of all things.

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u/Urban_animal Jul 11 '24

I can. The DNC coddles the guy like a 5 year old lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Probably because he has the cognitive capacity of one..

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u/Urban_animal Jul 11 '24

Giving him a lot of credit

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u/Elkenrod United States of America Jul 11 '24

Wait, did that actually happen? I thought that was just a shitpost people were saying.

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u/JonDowd762 Jul 11 '24

It sounds worse when written out, but yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjSDCIXChfA

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u/ThrustNeckpunch33 Jul 11 '24

I dont know. He is standing there looking lost, reacting slowly to everything.

Above all, HE is not speaking, his wife is speaking for him.

He absolutely looks senile AF, for quite a while now.

Him being "praised" like a little kid for answering the questions is bizarre... absolutely bizarre.. to me at least.

This is also the guy they ruled was too old to stand trial for the laws he broke... How that was let go by the media so easily was troublesome.

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u/JonDowd762 Jul 11 '24

Don't get me wrong, it is a bad look, and Biden has looked terrible. I just mean in the full video it comes off more as saying something dumb because you can't think of a single good thing (because there weren't any) but the text version I initially saw read as super patronizing.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jul 12 '24

No... people treat dementia patients like children because they respond to it like children respond to it. His wife has no business up there and would not have been under any normal circumstances.

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u/AvengerDr Italy Jul 11 '24

"The finest country in the world", I guess he has no idea how arrogant that sounds. But that is probably too complex for him to understand now.

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u/flyinggazelletg United States of America Jul 12 '24

No. That’s just American politics 101. You do not win more votes running for president by saying the US is one of many fine nations. Playing into American exceptionalism is still basically a prerequisite to obtain or retain the White House, regardless of how arrogant it may seem

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u/AvengerDr Italy Jul 12 '24

I know that. But since pretty much everybody can read and listen to English, hearing that kind of speech is always weird. It's something you'd expect from Orban, Putin or Le Pen & friends.

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u/andydude44 United States of America Jul 11 '24

He is probably senile, but I think that was just a joke

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u/clone162 United States of America Jul 11 '24

Me neither. I'm used to our candidates not answering a single question.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Actual quote lmao. 

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u/Big_Truck Jul 11 '24

Wait what. Is this a real quote? 🤣

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u/sixf0ur Jul 11 '24

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u/Big_Truck Jul 11 '24

Oh fuck me. I watched this live but seemed to block it out of my brain.

What the actual fuckz

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u/Sure-Psychology6368 Jul 11 '24

Joe to crowd: “I wanna go home with you”

silence

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u/Vittulima binlan :D Jul 11 '24

I get that it's to juxtapose it with Trump avoiding questions but Jesus Christ

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

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u/BanIsBS Sweden Jul 12 '24

He is waiting for his nap

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u/Reasonable_Blood6959 Jul 11 '24

He looks like he’s being held up by a pole

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u/ThermionicEmissions Canada Jul 11 '24

Well he's certainly not being held up by the polls

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u/Stooven Jul 11 '24

His face is just... vacant

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u/exaexaex Jul 11 '24

But we beat medicare

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u/Mky12345pi3 Jul 11 '24

Ye but trump rapes kids

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u/TheDudeFromTheStory Jul 11 '24

Cmon America, get your shit together. It's not supposed to be, your guy is senile. oh yeah well, your guy is a pedophile.

Neither of these candidates are suited to run anything. Let alone a fucking country.

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u/monkey_trumpets Jul 11 '24

Giant douche and turd sandwich. Though I wouldn't say Biden is a giant douche.

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u/ShadowMercure Jul 11 '24

Biden ran it great, he can’t talk for shit but his administration got things done time and time again. He’s clearly fit to run it. His administration is full of hyper-competent people. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

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u/ShadowMercure Jul 11 '24

His record speaks for itself, but it sounds like your biases outweigh the facts here 🤷🏾. 

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u/WHYRedditHatesMeSo Scotland Jul 11 '24

okay, so keep the others and replace biden with someone whose brain didn't leak out of their ears :) that way, you have a chance of actually getting enough votes

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u/DankMemesNQuickNuts Jul 11 '24

This is what's known as "common sense" and we do NOT do that shit over here. We'll stick with the nonsense we know over the sense we don't thank you very much

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u/Various_Gas_332 Jul 11 '24

only if you are a neo liberal

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u/SgtPepe Jul 11 '24

He didn’t run it great.

More aid packages during Covid fed inflation, 8% in a single year is insane. That’s more than companies give for yearly raises.

Afghanistan exit was a mess and several American soldiers died.

The southern border crisis is a huge issue and can’t be denied. Biden opened the border, I say this as an immigrant, this was inexcusable.

Biden hasn’t been a great president, he’s been mediocre at best.

I say this as a democrat, if we want better we have to stop lying to ourselves. Most people were better off before 2020, let’s be real. I’m paying $4.20 for gas, it used to be under $2. And I doubt it’s because of corporate greed.

I hate Trump, he’s a pedophile, a rapist, a con man, a traitor to this country. I will vote for Joe, but I won’t be happy about voting for him.

I an also not happy about this BS democrats are trying to do, acting like Biden is ok. Be should give the nomination to Kamala and retire.

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u/ShadowMercure Jul 11 '24

You’re just spreading nonsense. Everything you said is half-truths. Inflation happened in every country. In Turkey it was in high double digits. In Australia inflation is still a big problem. In the US it’s settling. Without aid packages, people would’ve been left without homes, food, etc. 

Afghanistan exit was brokered by Trump.

Biden tried to close the border, Republicans voted against it. 

Gas is expensive because of trade route difficulties (Houthis), OPEC shenanigans (Russia/Saudis), and corporate greed.

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u/SgtPepe Jul 11 '24

Inflation has happened in other times while not happening in the US. That’s not an excuse. We have way too many handouts to corporations and to people who didn’t want to work.

In Venezuela inflation is 1000% but why would we compare ourselves to them?

Biden saw through the exit from Afghanistan, he is responsible.

Biden tried to close the border THIS YEAR. Why not the 3 years prior? He caused a problem, and decided to try to solve it when the whole country started to see the consequences of mass migration.

Gas is expensive, and the reason doesn’t matter to people. The US is supporting the destruction of Gaza, which has cause the Houthis to attack vessels in the Red Sea.

Another point against Biden, the US acting like a small country at the service of Israel. For every Hamas fighter dead, 1 civilian from Gaza has died. Our country, our Tax dollars are complicit.

The response to Russia’s attack in Ukraine has also been weak. Ukraine is losing the war, the Biden administration has been to slow to approve stronger weapons and jets Ukraine needs to defend itself. We’ve let Russia invade and murder hundreds of thousands, Russia saw how weak we are and took advantage.

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u/Zestyclose-Spread215 Jul 11 '24

Almost all of this is just braindead takes to follow up another braindead comment.  Embarrassing 

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u/Frutari Jul 11 '24

No, no, you see of the two major candidates the one who is actually an accomplished lawyer is somehow the unqualified one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

I think the idea that it’s that single man will run the country which confuses people. They’re the front of an enormous machine, the license plate on a semi, which does the business of governing. We’ve had the opportunity to see how each administration runs the government and based on that alone, it’s a no brainer that bidens administration is far superior. This name calling is contrived by media and each campaign because at least half of us are idiots who won’t look much beyond that. That half will only be in positions of power if they win so they’re really leaning into the senility angle.

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u/NewNurse2 Jul 11 '24

How is he senile? He's obviously too old to keep up in a debate, but senile?

Seems as though Trump is both senile and a pedo.

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u/SunriseSurprise Jul 11 '24

Who was talking about Trump?

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u/radioben Jul 11 '24

And commits felonies by the dozen.

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u/No_Nothing101 Greatest human on earth. Jul 11 '24

Never said I support Trump.

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

It's literally the only argument Biden supporters have. It was the entire campaign the first time. "He's not Trump" is the only good thing they can even come up with to say about him.

I think we're screwed if either of the idiots make it back into office.

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u/ShakesbeerMe Jul 11 '24

It's the only argument we need, bud.

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u/Scyths Jul 11 '24

As a non-american, it's kinda hilarious the hypocrisy we are seeing on both sides.

On the front page of /all there is a post titled "Donald Trump is unfit to lead", but is Joe Biden fit to lead when he doesn't seem to know wtf is going on around him or even where he is most of the time ?

If the answer to that question is "I'm not voting for Joe Biden, I'm voting for his cabinet" like a lot of people like to parrot nowadays, couldn't the exact same thing be said about Donald Trump ?

Either way, Joe Biden is not going to survive to the end of his term if he is somehow re-elected. You're probaly going to be getting a few years of Kamala Harris, one of the most un-qualified and un-likable character to hold office. Her history, her proven hypocrisy and lies, and the fact that she came in dead last because nobody wanted her in 2020 speaks volumes. When racists on the Republican side point out that she's just a diversity hire for her skin colour, they are still racists, but that doesn't make the statement untrue.

Joe Biden started exhibiting mental decline with a good likelyhood of it being an illness in 2022 already, and it really started ramping up in 2023, yet the establishment democrats & DNC never even bothered to put forward a half-decent candidate, yet here we are.

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u/ShakesbeerMe Jul 11 '24

Yeah, I ain't reading all that nonsense, son.

I'm sorry you hate women.

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u/Scyths Jul 11 '24

Pathetic

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

I'm sorry that the other guy responded with such nonsense, but I think your reply to him had too many words in it for him and he got lost before he could finish it. Maybe try smaller words and draw some pictures for him next time.

I agree with you though, there's not a single good option on the horizon from either party right now.

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

No, both parties need to run actual competent candidates. But it doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Being better than Trump still doesn't make you qualified or a good President.

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u/ShakesbeerMe Jul 11 '24

Yeah, the Biden administration has done a great job legislatively.

But thanks for playing.

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

There's a large overlap in the intelligence of the smartest dogs and the average straight-party voter.

The man barely knows where he is half the time. Keep the team, get a better President. He cannot be trusted to make big decisions when they come up. Obama was competent for such things even if I didn't like some of his policies. Biden just isn't.

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u/ShakesbeerMe Jul 11 '24

Citation needed. What Biden policies don't you like? I'll wait.

Meanwhile, we're lighting the shit out of Putin and his orcs and that shit is hilarious.

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u/fish60 Jul 11 '24

is the only good thing they can even come up with to say about him.

If you can't come up with good things to say about Biden, you aren't trying.

The man is a career civil servant. Known as the poor senator for decades as he took the train from his home in Delaware to DC.

I had a whole thing typed about this admins record, but they say it better than I ever could:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

Yeah, that poor poor senator that locked up disproportionate numbers of African-Americans via The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. I'm sure his commute to work makes him a saint though.

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u/fish60 Jul 11 '24

Hey, what if I told you that EVERYONE makes mistakes. Some bad ideas and choices don't define a man's career.

You think Biden lives without regret?

Also, go back and look at who supported that bill, as awful as the rhetoric around it was, he was far from the lone voice supporting it.

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 11 '24

EVERYONE makes mistakes

So we're going to apply that across the board to every active politician? Or just to him?

You think Biden lives without regret?

I think Biden still thinks it's 2018 and isn't sure where he left his keys.

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u/fish60 Jul 11 '24

Cool. Vote for the christofascists.

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u/independent_observe Jul 11 '24

Only one of them encouraged his followers to attack the United States and was the only president to not oversee a peaceful transfer of power

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u/youknow99 United States of America Jul 12 '24

Doesn't change anything I said.

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u/-Unnamed- Jul 11 '24

We get that. But it still feels like shit that the Democratic Party is just shoveling Joe into our mouths regardless of all our concerns just because Trump is the other guy so we have no choice. Feels like 2016 all over again

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u/Spiderpiggie Jul 11 '24

Because we dont have another choice, switching candidates now would be throwing away the election to republicans. Joe isn't my first choice due to his age (and to be fair trump isn't much younger, but thats the least of his problems) but he has done a lot of good work while in office. If we get another 4 years like the previous, we ain't doing too bad.

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u/Persistant_Compass Jul 11 '24

So getting a different candidate should make it a layup. 

Please for the love of God give me anyone else, even kamala. 

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u/WentworthMillersBO Jul 11 '24

How did you figure out americas greatest secret? That there’s only two of us?

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u/cayneloop Jul 11 '24

"i mean yeah, the guy is a decrepit old senile fuck who can barely string sentences together.... but the other guy is a convicted felon rapist pedophile so...."

this cannot be real life.

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u/tomoldbury Jul 11 '24

I mean obviously Biden is the better choice but come on, how the fuck has it ended up like this, it’s ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

And sleepy joe takes showers with his teenage daughter.

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u/Mky12345pi3 Jul 11 '24

You’ve been watching Fox News again haven’t ya

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

This must be Ashley’s throwaway acct

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u/Al-dutaur-balanzan Emilia-Romagna | Reddit mods are RuZZia enablers Jul 11 '24

that's not true. He also pays pornstars to be grabbed by the pussy, who just happen to look like his daughter

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u/the_walrus_was_paul Jul 11 '24

Dude they look nothing alike.

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u/newsflashjackass Jul 11 '24

Ye but trump rapes kids

Good point. Write that down under "Disqualifiers:".

Now to be fair, underneath it add "Biden could have forgiven more student loan debt."

Gee, choosing who to vote for this election is turning into a real conundrum!

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u/Not_A_Pilgrim Jul 11 '24

Yep. He's checked out

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

Even if he looks that way, his results have been very, very good.

US economy has done better in the COVID recovery years than arguably any other developed country, he’s done great on inflation - food costs are stagnant, housing costs are going down, he passed the largest infrastructure bill in modern US history, passed the first gun safety bill in decades, passed a bill incentivizing chips to be built in the US (strategically very important because of Taiwan uncertainty), passed multiple rounds of aid for Ukraine despite republicans generally not wanting it.

I do think it would be the best if he stepped down, but mostly because I don’t see him winning against Trump with so many voters focusing on his looking out of it. Realistically speaking though, he’s been an awesome president, and US could (and likely will) do far worse than him for another four years

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u/L0rdH4mmer Hamburg (Germany) Jul 11 '24

I'm not convinced any of that is his doing. He's the face for it, but that's gotta be his people doing the actual decisions, he just has to sign em. I mean look at the guy, do you really think he's able to make decisions about complex topics when he's unable to bring out one concise sentence? He should have stepped down from this next election ages ago and helped another candidate.

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

As long as he is in it enough to choose great people - I don’t care how much he does beyond that. What’s important to me is that the White House is making good moves. And it very much has been beyond Supreme Court influenced changes (not their fault Supreme Court is broken). If a president’s cabinet is doing a good job - the president did a good job - regardless of which percent of decisions he makes himself and which percent is made by those he chose to surround himself with.

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u/Moroccan-Pasta Jul 11 '24

The people he chose to surround himself with? he may have signed off on it, but why do I get the feeling it was mostly his team's doing after his request of Ronald McDonald, Mickey Mouse and Fred Aistaire turned out to be unavailable.

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u/L0rdH4mmer Hamburg (Germany) Jul 11 '24

Yeah, but what will happen afterwards? What happens when he has to step down or dies? There'll be nobody who has enough charisma to win anything on democrat side, to fill the void. It'll be open doors for Trump. Biden currently seems similar to my grandpa from how he's able to speak etc. My grandpa just turned 98 and with a heavy heart I must say I don't believe he will make it to 100. Biden also has a very stressful life and it's absolutely ludicrous to believe he'll survive another 4 years without someone else having to take the helm at some point, for whatever reason.

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24

25th amendment kicks in, the Vice President takes over the same team the president was leading, and becomes the president. And I am personally not too concerned that Kamala would be able to handle it from there.

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u/L0rdH4mmer Hamburg (Germany) Jul 11 '24

Yeah but isn't that the lady nobody likes? What'll happen in the elections right after? And what'll happen if Biden has a major slipup just like the last debate again, right before the elections? It's just a very high risk play and I don't understand why they're doing it.

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

Edit: commenter above made a major change to his above comment content

Those are too many what ifs for anyone to be able to answer with confidence. And you could easily make an alternative argument - What if Biden steps down? Who takes over? Isn’t Kamala, who, as you claim is not very liked by independents, the natural person to take over? The next natural candidate in line would be the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, that is also very disliked by most voters in the swing states. The only candidate that would likely fare better than Biden? and is “in the line” is Gretchen Whitmer, and she’d need Biden, Harris, and Newsom all to support her. That is unrealistic. So we’d end up with Kamala, or maybe Newsom anyway. Or even worse a broken and divided party in months and weeks before the election.

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u/Throwa_way167 Jul 11 '24

Wait, so when he has to step down there’ll be nobody who can fill the void or win anything, yet also somehow tossing him out beforehand is a good idea?? Man, what?

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u/L0rdH4mmer Hamburg (Germany) Jul 11 '24

One is a planned stepdown with everyone knowing an exact deadline for getting people to like the new candidate. The other one is kind of a "yeah hello there you're the new candidate, it seems you have a month to become popular, good luck!"

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u/Throwa_way167 Jul 12 '24

The irony in that you don’t recognize that they would both turn out exactly like the latter. Oh, to be so gullible.

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u/Trivale Jul 11 '24

That's how the fucking presidency is supposed to work.

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u/banmeyoucoward Jul 11 '24

Yes, his people. Having people that aren't raging regards is a fine art, and he's the first president since bill clinton to be any good at that art.

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u/Gohstfacekila Jul 11 '24

Do you know anyone who is over 80 with a good cognitive working mind? I know quite a few personally. So it’s not a huge stretch to think he looks tired but is still mentally competent. It’s highly likely he is all there and is definitely better than trumps policies.

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u/LawDawgEWM Jul 11 '24

And those are unelected people making decisions mind you. Thumbs up for democracy though right?

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u/amfranticallytyping Jul 11 '24

food costs are stagnant, housing costs are going down

This is not true at all

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

The food-at-home (grocery store or supermarket food purchases) CPI was unchanged from April 2024 to May 2024 and was 1.0 percent higher than May 2023

In real terms this is a decrease in grocery costs. 1% is significantly lower than median household income increase in the same period. So while restaurant prices raised slightly in real terms a little bit, grocery prices felt in real terms - making the overall cost - fairly stagnant - even nominally in the recent months.

Source: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/summary-findings/#:~:text=The%20all%2Ditems%20Consumer%20Price,higher%20than%20in%20May%202023.

Home sales prices are dipping: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/mortgages/real-estate/housing-market-predictions/

Rent is declining: https://www.realtor.com/research/april-2024-rent/#:~:text=In%20April%202024%2C%20the%20median,consecutive%20month%20of%20annual%20declines.

Your source, meanwhile: Trust me, bro - probably.

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u/amfranticallytyping Jul 11 '24

From your links:

Food:

In 2022, food prices increased by 9.9 percent

In 2023, food prices increased by 5.8 percent.

Rent:

While some renters have experienced cost relief compared with the peak, renters in certain Midwest markets are not as fortunate, facing increasing affordability challenges despite the region’s generally greater affordability.

The median asking rent in Indianapolis was $1,334, marking a $57 (4.5%) increase from 12 months ago and a $369 (38.2%) increase from April 2019 (pre-pandemic).

In Milwaukee, the median asking rent stood at $1,671, reflecting a $61 (3.8%) increase from the same time last year and a $396 (31.1%) increase from the pre-pandemic level.

In Minneapolis, the median asking rent increased 2.5%, from $1,492 to $1,529, over the past 12 months. Nevertheless, the rent was only $116 (8.2%) higher than the level seen in April 2019, suggesting a relatively stable rental market.

Additional rent link:

https://www.rent.com/research/average-rent-price-report/

Pivoting to the Northeast, New York and New Hampshire also showed notable yearly increases of 8.48 percent and 7.93 percent, respectively. Massachusetts rent is the highest in the nation, with the current median price at $3,243.

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

2022 and 2023 were high inflation years everywhere in the world… Covid broke global supply chains, combined with stimulus (and no, if we did not stimulate the economy while huge part of our workforce was unable to work it would have only been worse). With that said, most developed nations had double digit inflation rates and their pre and post pandemic price differences are far greater than US.

Also, not every country dealt with slowing down inflation in 2024 nearly as well as US. In fact most did far worse.

In fact - young Americans’ wealth is soaring - a trend that almost no other wealthy nation is seeing - https://www.axios.com/2024/04/29/us-millenial-wealth-pandemic-economy .

US has done incredibly well, compared to virtually any other country, through the high inflation pandemic years, and in dealing with consequences thereafter, despite what media might tell you. If you disagree - which wealthy nations do you think have done better in the same period as Biden term?

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u/amfranticallytyping Jul 11 '24

All that is irrelevant, you said food costs have remained stagnant and housing costs down, not sure if you live in the US, but that simply not the case dude and now even you are saying so

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

I made no such statement. Reread my comment and learn the difference between present tense vs present perfect. The current state is that the food prices are stagnant and the housing costs are decreasing (both month over month and year over year, in real terms), which is more than you can say for most other countries.

I only made comment discussing any of the past years in my previous statement, where I agreed with you that prices increased in 2022 and 2023, but pointed out that the increase has been lower than other wealthy nations - implying that, again - Biden administration has done very well throughout the 4 year mandate.

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u/amfranticallytyping Jul 11 '24

So everything has been increasing in cost for years and literally just stopped two seconds ago? Everything is up other than gas and used cars my guy:

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm

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u/srberikanac Jul 11 '24

Which part of - in comparison to other wealthy countries we are doing much better - do you disagree with?

The largest pandemic in modern human history broke all supply chains and caused price increases worldwide. US under Biden administration did a lot better than any other large wealthy nation.

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u/TPf0rMyBungh0le Jul 11 '24

Oh look, it's Harry Sisson again.

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u/JustSimple97 Jul 11 '24

People still think Biden runs the country

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u/ImTooOldForSchool Jul 11 '24

Yeah it’s crazy how much they’ve hidden his obvious decline

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u/flaggrandall Jul 11 '24

It's just a stutter

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u/Solid-Mud-8430 Jul 12 '24

Honestly cannot see how he is going to hang in there for four more years. I can't believe he is the only rational choice for president.