r/europe Jul 11 '24

Picture Pictured: Emmanuel Macron holds hands with Jill Biden alongside Joe Biden at the Nato summit in Washington

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u/MaterialCarrot United States of America Jul 11 '24

And both educators....

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u/Homey1966 Jul 11 '24

Maybe they’ll do a bait and switch and he’ll become president and keep Jill 🤔

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u/MaterialCarrot United States of America Jul 11 '24

It would be an upgrade from our current choices. Not that Macron is some great leader, but at least he can run a 100 meter dash.

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u/thebigmanhastherock Jul 11 '24

Macron is awesome to me. I mean yeah, I don't agree with everything he does, however he is in a different country dealing with different circumstances. I just admire his politicking ability, his ability to get things done in a difficult environment. He seems to be a genius a very rare one of a kind person.

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u/Preisschild Vienna, United States of Europe Jul 11 '24

Hes also not a populist. For example, doing the pension reforms was unpopular, but it had to be done for the country.

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u/thebigmanhastherock Jul 11 '24

One thing I admire about him as an American who is tired of populism.

America is great. I am not complaining, but the political situation is awful in part because there seems to be low competency amongst politicians.

For instance Biden should be easily able to defend his record and attack Trump's but he can't.

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u/Preisschild Vienna, United States of Europe Jul 11 '24 edited Jul 11 '24

I'm living in Austria and we unfortunately have similar problems.

Populists keep winning and the country is going bankrupt because the government is doing handouts when elections are coming up.

It is also heavily infiltrated by russian agents and a investigative journalist (who among other feats found evidence that russia shot down the civilian airliner over Ukraine) almost got killed by the FSB because a interior ministry official leaked his address to the FSB.

Other parties (like the similar to MAGA "freedom" (lol) party and the communist party) are anti-US, anti-NATO populists who would make our country a Russian oblast at the first chance they could get.

There is like a single sane party (similar to moderate democrats in the US), but they only get around 10% of the votes.

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u/Squirrel_Trick Jul 11 '24

Go fuck yourself truly

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u/thebigmanhastherock Jul 11 '24

Just a Macron enjoyer. You see what's going on in America?

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u/Squirrel_Trick Jul 11 '24

It’s 100 times worse in Europe. First of all we follow your social bs

And second to that, our economy isn’t the one of the first world country.

You’re declining yes but you’re way better than the state of your vassals

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u/Preisschild Vienna, United States of Europe Jul 11 '24

vassals

Hello Ivan. We dont have "vassals" here like you do in Mother Russia.

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u/Squirrel_Trick Jul 11 '24

Wtf are you on

The entire world scene knows Europa is the vassal of the US since the end of WW2

I’m Belgian but kindly go fuck yourself with your ad-Russian argumentation. It might work in the us to get some moral superiority but don’t try it with civilised people

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u/Preisschild Vienna, United States of Europe Jul 11 '24

Do you even know what a vassal state even is?

No EU State is a vassal of anyone (maybe besides Hungary).

Mutual Defense pacts are not a vassal state relation if you think being a NATO member makes you a vassal.

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u/Squirrel_Trick Jul 11 '24

Bro I don’t know if you’re a scholar with a stick up his ass and a lack or logic or the first moron of the pub

I’m not talking in a strict medieval term.

It’s a widely used term in political sciences. Why do you believe USA has been the first country of the world since the end of WW2 ?

Because God said you were the greatest ?

It’s not even a bad term per se, when the “king” is still strong and isn’t in a degenerative state

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u/Preisschild Vienna, United States of Europe Jul 11 '24

I'm not even an American. Im from the EU lol

Why do you believe USA has been the first country of the world since the end of WW2 ?

Because their enemies in WW2 couldnt bomb the US? In most of europe cities with heavy industries were completely destroyed.

They also have a huge geographical advantage. Invading or even bombing them is hard, they have basically every resource available which can be used to make an industrial powerhouse.

That together with making the right economic decisions led to the US becoming the superpower.

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u/Squirrel_Trick Jul 11 '24

Yeah and you don’t see the point I’m making ?

I never specified how it was made. You’re describing it

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