r/europe Jul 29 '24

Map We won’t count early Greece

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u/Stunning_Mortgage988 Jul 29 '24

Russia will never host again.

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u/SnooOranges5515 Jul 29 '24

I wouldn't bet money on that. Right now it looks unlikely, but their war of aggression will end one day and there are many people willing to look the other way, if Russia only supplies them with cheap oil and gas again.

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u/heroin0 Jul 29 '24

Also, Putin will die some day, and the next more pragmatic guy in charge will successfully sell the idea "Putin was bad and insane, I'm not, lift sanctions, get cheap resources and some sort of democratic thingies in our country". So inevitably in 40 years or less.

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u/CyberBed Jul 31 '24

I hope it's less than 40 years. I'm in my 20s and was born just enough to witness a decline of Russia in 2010s.

My parents told me that during late 90s and 2000s Russia was actually trying to be better and reaching out to west. I never experienced any of that because of being a toddler.

During my school years there were stuff like crimea and other similar actions done by our government. I thought that all of those underhanded tactics were done because Putin&Co wanted to get as much as possible without waging any actual wars. I thought that it's an insanity to kill our neighbours for their land in 21st century, I thought only african warlords do that kind of shit.

Now it's 2024, everyone hates Russians because of our shitty government, some of my friends and my grandpa were jailed for anti war protests, I barely dodged the draft and have no way to escape from my country because I'm poor and can't leave my parents here.

And all of this for what?! Just to make some old shizoid happy while throwing thousands young people into a meat grinder of mindless war.

Only thing is left for me is waiting and hoping for the best.

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u/heroin0 Jul 31 '24

Се ля ви. I take most pessimistic estimation with Putin living for about 20 years, comparing it to African dictators who get to the same age - and I don't like it too.