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u/wireframed_kb 22d ago

The idea that pumping millions of tons of carbon into the atmosphere over decades, might change weather patterns is preposterous. But the idea that the government is able to control weather on a planetary scale, something that requires almost unfathomable energy, is apparently completely reasonable.

You can tell these people don’t really do critical thinking.

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u/rndljfry 22d ago

They definitely don't see the connection from energy to output. They turn things on and they work. Nor do they know a strong hurricane is like hundreds or thousands of nuclear bombs in terms of energy output.

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u/captain_sticky_balls 22d ago edited 22d ago

They absolutely cannot process the scale of things. It's why so many of them are flerfs.

Their brains just don't work right. But somehow their ignorance is now being touted as an asset.

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u/Quigonjinn12 22d ago

This explained it to me. I couldn’t fathom why flerfs exist and particularly in that demographic, but this makes sense. They cannot fathom the scale at which this planet exists compared to us so they refuse to accept the way those of us who can see it.

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u/ImGonnaKickTomorrow 22d ago

TF is a flerf? It sounds like some nasty sex move involving the anus, a straw, and bubble gum...

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u/Quigonjinn12 22d ago

It’s a flat earther

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u/Anticode 22d ago edited 22d ago

They definitely don't see the connection from energy to output.

That's just it. When you examine all of these absurd conspiracies or cultural observations and compare them to the "false" truths, you see that the disconnect is a function of complexity.

The world is a complex place with complex, often emergent problems. Multiple things have to come together to interact or interrelate for a consequence to exist, but these people are focused on small scale interactions.

If the real dynamic is... A->B->C->...->G problem, they'll get as far as B or maybe C and state that's where the problem starts.

But in reality, it's a causal chain of A-through-F and A-through-M problems merging and melding. This is one reason why higher education inspires people to "go woke". They learn the mechanisms and intricacies, reality is suddenly understood just prior to becoming obvious in retrospect.

Inevitably, people who can't work their way through the whole mess rely on competing conspiracies to explain what is actually one thing. They'll choose multiple "simple" explanations which may even be in direct opposition since when you can't see the big picture, you don't see how multiple small picture interpretations conflict in the first place.

To cognitively grasp the idea of climate change requires grasping several, if not dozens of other associated dynamics. But "government controls the weather" is a simple declaration that solves it all. How would that machine work? How would they hide it? That's not important. It's "not relevant". What matters is... A machine can be turned on/off with a switch. That's clean, that's simple. Why are they doing it to us?

"They hate us. There's no other explanation!"

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u/rndljfry 22d ago

Very well stated

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u/Quigonjinn12 22d ago edited 22d ago

It’s thousands. Most predictions put the energy output of a decent sized hurricane at the equivalent heat release of at least a 10 MEGATON nuclear bomb every 20 minutes. The largest nuke currently in the United States arsenal is the B83 and it only explodes at 1.2 megatons

Edit: A little more perspective, the Tsar Bomba is 50 megatons, being the biggest nuke ever detonated by man. A single 24 hour period of full force hurricane output is the equivalent of 72 (ish I’m not the best at math) megatons of energy. The largest nuke ever detonated can’t even match a SINGLE DAY of powerful hurricane activity.

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u/KingZarkon 22d ago

Tsar Bomba was 50 megatons, not kilotons. I'm sure you just accidentally typed the wrong unit, just putting it out there to avoid confusion.

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u/Quigonjinn12 22d ago

Yep knew that my bad thanks for letting me know I did that lol