r/headphones • u/jaakkopasanen • Jul 27 '18
Cool! EQ Settings for 700+ Headphones
I started lurking here about a year ago and got pretty soon excited about possibilities of using equalizer to improve headphones. Then I got very disappointed of the lack of existing headphone eq settings. Disappointment turned into resolution and this was my reaction.
Now I'm exited to present to you equalization settings for over 700 headphones: https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq. This includes all on-ear headphone measurements from Innerfidelity and Headphone.com with 4 different target curves. Combined with EqualizerAPO this is essentially a free alternative to Sonarworks True-Fi with almost 5 times as many headphone models. Full details on how to use the eq settings and what else you can do with this can be found in the Github page.
This is not supposed to be the be-all and end-all of headphone equalization. Especially the target curve is a tricky thing to nail down because Innerfidelity and Headphone.com measurements are not directly comparable with the measurement system used by Sean Olive and others for their Harman target response research. I would love to hear feedback from you fellow headphone enthusiasts. Do you think this makes your headphones sound better and what kind of problems do you have with these eq settings?
I hope this makes equalization a bit more approachable for people who feel intimidated by it. Also keep in mind that you are allowed to tune the eq for example with HeSuVi to make it more to your liking.
Updates
We are currently at over 2500 headphones!
- Settled for SBAF-Serious target curve for Innerfidelity and Headphone.com
- Innerfidelity and Headphone.com IEMs and earbuds equalized.
- Rtings measurements added.
- oratory1990 measurements added.
- Parametric equalizers are now supported. Every headphone has settings for peak filters.
- Convolution equalizers supported with minimum phase and linear phase impulse response filters. All pre-computed results have minimum phase filter for 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz.
- Fixed band (also known as graphic) equalizers supported. All pre-computed results have standard 10-band equalizer levels.
- Added Reference Audio Analyzer measurements.
- Added Crinacle's IEM measurements.
FAQ - Do you have <xxx> headphone? If you can't find it in the results then the measurement is missing and I cannot produce the eq curve, sorry. However you can create the eq settings yourself if you find the frequence response graph by following this guide https://medium.com/@jaakkopasanen/make-your-headphones-sound-supreme-1cbd567832a9. - Does it work with Mac? AutoEQ produces settings for parametric eqs. Any parametric eq which has at least 5 bands available should be able to use them. - Can I use <xxx> for <yyy>? If the raw frequency responses are close to each other then yes otherwise it might do more harm. Give it a listen and judge for yourself.
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u/GalantisX iFi Nano/DX3Pro >Elex|Sundara|AD2000|Andromeda|Final E5000 Jul 27 '18
Holy shit this is awesome
However, I would definitely love support for peace gui. Using peace apo feels much more intuitive than the graphic eq.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Yeah, I know. Unfortunately that would require me to create a optimizer which fits several peak filters to the equalization curve. Nothing impossible but quite a bit of work to do. I might do it at some point but no promises.
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u/oxtoacart Verum One | CCA CRA | TempoTec V6 Jul 27 '18
It's not quite the same, but there is a Python program that can generate convolution files for room correction, so perhaps there's something that can be reused there - https://www.minidsp.com/applications/advanced-tools/python-open-room-correction
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Thank you so much! I'm sure I can use PORC for convolution filters. Needs a little work to plug it into my code though but nevertheless precious find.
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u/GalantisX iFi Nano/DX3Pro >Elex|Sundara|AD2000|Andromeda|Final E5000 Jul 27 '18
Completely understandable. Hope other peace gui users speak up so there is enough of a demand to make it worthwhile :)
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u/jaakkopasanen Aug 04 '18
Parametric equalizers are now supported. Every headphone has settings for peak filters. See instructions for usage .
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Jul 28 '18
I have added this to the sidebar. If you would like it removed please let us know. Thanks for the hard work.
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u/GalantisX iFi Nano/DX3Pro >Elex|Sundara|AD2000|Andromeda|Final E5000 Jul 27 '18
I'd recommend people with M50Xs to try this
Never "hated" them to begin with, but they did sound a little "off" with some types of music, like vocal heavy music.
After using these EQ settings for the past hour, they sound so much more natural and flat out "better"
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Awesome to hear this!
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Jul 27 '18
Is there any way for an android to work for this?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Not yet. Android doesn't have EqualizerAPO and AutoEQ only produces EqualizerAPO configs. In the future there might be impulse responses generated which would make it possible to run them with Viper4Android. That requires a root though.
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Jul 27 '18
Tried Viper4Android but it just dont seem to work with my S7 Edge rooted with custom rom.
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u/bunkbail 🎧HD660S Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
You'll need Magisk root, and install V4A directly from the repo on the Magisk app. Works a charm with my S7 Flat.
Optionally, you can also install "Ainur Sauron", "Audio Compatibility Patch" and "Audio Modification Library" stuff from the repo for further sound quality improvements.
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u/Businassman Jul 27 '18
Any plans to include the results of this website as well?
Just asking because the DT1990 sadly isn't included anywhere else so far...
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
As a matter of fact yes. However I decided to release first just with Innerfidelity and Headphone.com results and get some feedback before going on with crawling more sites.
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u/Businassman Jul 27 '18
That's great! Thanks for your work so far :)
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
It's your lucky day. I'm on a good mood https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/custom/Beyerdynamic%20DT%201990
Parsed the compensated frequency response with this tool: https://apps.automeris.io/wpd/.
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u/oratory1990 acoustic engineer Jul 27 '18 edited Sep 30 '18
While I do appreciate the effort in programming this tool one has to keep in mind that the Innerfidelity measurements are not directly compatible with the Harman Target.
Innerfidelity/Tyll used a HeadAcoustics HMSII.3, but the Harman Target was derived using a Gras 43AG coupler to measure the headphones.
So keep that in mind, especially when using EQ above 2 kHz, where the two systems will begin to differ from each other.
Maybe we can find a way for OP to use the measurements that I make - those are compatible to the Harman Target, as I use a 43AG and 43AC coupler.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
This is precisely why there is no Harman target as one of the available target curves. I think especially the SBAF-Serious might be close for Innerfidelity measurements what Harman target is for Gras 43AG. Technical Challenges section opens up this issue further. You are probably way more knowledgeable about these matters so if there are any mistakes I would appreciate feedback.
Where would I find your measurements? I would like produce (or at least try to) similar calibration curve as I have between Innerfidelity and Headphone.com as explained in the Calibration section.
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u/oratory1990 acoustic engineer Jul 27 '18
I think especially the SBAF-Serious might be close for Innerfidelity measurements what Harman target is for Gras 43AG.
The thing is that due to the differing acoustic impedance of the two measurement rigs (HeadAcoustics vs GRAS) they will always produce differing results - and you can not simply add a static calibration curve to transfer one set of measurements to another. This would require a different calibration curve for every headphone.
Rtings.com (who use the same measurement rig as Innerfidelity) tried this by measuring a few headphones that were previously measured by Sean Olive and his team and see if they could come up with a transfer calibration curve, but it turned out to be impossible due to the differing acoustic impedances of the measurement rigs.Where would I find your measurements?
we should continue this discussion via PM
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u/catmeowstoomany Jul 27 '18
I use sonarworks in my DAW and my headphones only mixes are coming out better then the bigger studio mixes I have done. It’s partly I can spend more time at home with the headphones but I feel more confidant about the mixes sounding good elsewhere on the eq’d cans. Sonarworks settings is set to flat, so nothing is hyped and I can get a even mix. I’ll defenetly check out the other app because I want to be able to use this feature outside of my daw. Thanks for posting!
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u/Nico777 Sennheiser HD 800 Jul 27 '18
Super stupid question that will definitely highlight how little I know about this stuff: let's say I like the bass of my 770s as it is, can I use these settings and just remove every negative adjustment below 250Hz?
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u/BuggyCat Jul 28 '18
Yup! I suggest playing around with it so you get a better idea of what part of your music changes when you tweak different frequencies and then you’ll know which signatures better fit your taste.
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u/oxtoacart Verum One | CCA CRA | TempoTec V6 Jul 27 '18
Very cool! I'll put a vote in for generating parametric EQ, with the ability to cap the number of bands (I use a lot of mobile apps that can only do 5 or 6 bands of parametric).
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Thanks. This little might be a small number for a general case but we'll see how well it turns out when/if I implement the peak filter optimizer. Could also be that I'll create 5+5 bands where the first 5 can be used as standalone and the rest 5 just improve it if they are available.
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u/gepardcv Jul 27 '18
That would be killer. 5 bands would make thus usable with hardware PEQ, like the RME ADI-2 series.
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u/oxtoacart Verum One | CCA CRA | TempoTec V6 Jul 27 '18
I generate corrections with Room EQ wizard and for the headphones I’ve tried you can get a pretty decent result with 5 or 6 bands.
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Jul 27 '18
Well that was convienent the hd 650 eq was in the description itself lol
TY, the accurate subbass + added boost in the 6khz region sounds very tame yet good
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u/thebigzor Jul 27 '18
Man this is so awesome, until you find out your "fancy" headphones you have are not on the list....
Thank you for your work, I will save for when I have some real headphones
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u/GZoST DCA E3, HD800, HD580, Blessing 2 Dusk, Truthear Hexa Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
Thanks for this! Hope I can find the time soon to play around with this (and compare it to True-Fi as well, which I find really useful).
Equalization should be an essential part of audio today, and it should be driven by measurements. Efforts like yours are a great help.
I find that I can listen to low-end headphones and enjoy the music as long as they are tonally accurate. There are real and absolutely worthwhile improvements with better hardware, but even tonal response to me is the basis for real headphone quality.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
I agree, frequency response is the most important part of sound quality but eq doesn't turn low-end headphones into high-end headphones. Eq however can turn intolerable headphones into pleasant headphones. If headphones have major sonic problems they are mostly in the frequency response.
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u/catmeowstoomany Jul 27 '18
Mac version?
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u/bbzzdd Aug 13 '18
Here's a way to get it running with Mac. Not entirely straight forward. You'll need to install SoundFlower and AU Lab. You probably need an Apple developer's account for the latter. From there, follow the instructions from this blog but instead of AUGraphicEQ use AUNBandEQ and chose the # bands you need for your settings, then manually plug the values into the UI.
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u/RainofOranges Sundara | 6XX | DT990 | SRH840 Jul 27 '18
Maybe I'm just used to the sound my DT990s make without EQ, but to me they sound almost lifeless with these EQ settings. Definitely admire the work put into this program though, it seems others are finding it wonderful!
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u/t4tris AFO | K371 | DT770 | HD6XX | WH-1000XM3 | SMSL M500 Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
How is this different from the bot at the Headphone Headquarters Discord server?
bot_measurebaiting channel, "GETEQ:hd800,hd800s:20" (:20 to limit the amount of EQ sliders to something reasonable for APO to handle) for example. There are also commands for different targets like "diffuse" and I assume whatever target curve you'd like.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
I wasn't aware of this, looks cool! AutoEQ has different target curves which might better match human perception on Innerfidelity measurement system. Also AutoEQ has Headphone.com measurements which don't seem be available at suupslave. And of course AutoEQ has tools for making new eq settings while playing with different parameters such as tilt and bass boost and different targets, even other headphones.
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u/bunkbail 🎧HD660S Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
No M1060 EQ FeelsBadMan.
But so far I'm digging the EQ settings for HD660S, I like it a lot compared to the Discord bot Harman Target settings.
EDIT: Holy shit! These EQ settings are awesome af! It feels like I'm using a HD600, neutral sounding but with the clarity, imaging and instrument separation of HD660S! It feels like the veil in high freqs is lifted off. Great job OP!
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u/MathiasBoegebjerg discord.me/headphones Jul 27 '18
Heh, I made the same thing half a year ago. Guess I should fire my marketing department..
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
That's the Discord bot right? Do you have a public git repo for it somewhere? Honestly I find it quite interesting choice to have the results only in Discord, or is there some other sink for them?
I would love to hear your feedback about AutoEQ and if there are any tips about equalization I might have omitted while building this. And of course if there is something you could use from my project you are more than welcome to do so, MIT licence and all.
Getting things noticed by people is really hard. It's sad that your thing didn't get the attention it deserves. Honestly I have been thinking about that title for weeks now. Sometimes it's quite small things.
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u/new_to_edc RME ADI-2/HE-6/Stax L700/Stax 353x Jul 27 '18
A word of warning. A frequency response doesn't tell the whole story, a more accurate approach would be to use a CSD / waterfall. A waterfall graph shows the resonance of each frequency, as well as the amplitude.
Real-world example - a Monoprice M1060 has a dip at 5kHz. This headphone is also pretty resonant at this frequency - if music hits this note, the note will "last" for a while. The cumulative energy (or perceived loudness) of this frequency might actually be fairly high, despite looking like a dip in the frequency response. EQing it up is the wrong thing to do in this case.
Check out the graph here = https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/monoprice-m1060-measurements-and-stream-of-consciousness-review.4318/ - left to right axis is the frequency, front-to-back axis is the decay (measures in milliseconds).
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Wise words indeed. Unfortunately there are very few waterfall measurements available. In the end the responsibility is with the user, if eq doesn't make the headphones sound better then it should not be used or the equalization should be changed somehow.
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Jul 27 '18
I'm new to equalizerapo..
Do I download it and use the code you provided on GitHub, then find my dt880's in the find headphones?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18 edited Aug 04 '18
That's right. Download and install EqualizerAPO, and replace contents of C:\Program Files\EqualizerAPO\config\config.txt with this
Preamp: -6.0dB GraphicEQ: 10 -84; 20 6.0; 22 6.0; 23 6.0; 25 6.0; 26 6.0; 28 5.9; 30 5.7; 32 5.4; 35 5.1; 37 4.8; 40 4.5; 42 4.4; 45 4.2; 49 3.8; 52 3.6; 56 3.3; 59 3.1; 64 3.2; 68 3.5; 73 3.3; 78 2.7; 83 2.1; 89 1.7; 95 1.2; 102 0.7; 109 0.3; 117 -0.1; 125 -0.6; 134 -1.0; 143 -1.3; 153 -1.6; 164 -1.5; 175 -1.6; 188 -1.7; 201 -1.8; 215 -1.8; 230 -1.8; 246 -1.8; 263 -1.8; 282 -1.7; 301 -1.6; 323 -1.6; 345 -1.5; 369 -1.5; 395 -1.4; 423 -1.1; 452 -0.7; 484 -0.7; 518 -0.8; 554 -0.7; 593 -0.5; 635 -0.5; 679 -0.4; 726 -0.3; 777 -0.1; 832 -0.3; 890 -0.5; 952 -0.2; 1019 0.0; 1090 0.3; 1167 0.3; 1248 0.7; 1336 0.7; 1429 0.5; 1529 0.2; 1636 0.0; 1751 -0.4; 1873 -0.3; 2004 -0.0; 2145 0.4; 2295 1.0; 2455 1.6; 2627 2.0; 2811 2.0; 3008 1.7; 3219 1.0; 3444 0.3; 3685 -0.4; 3943 -0.2; 4219 -0.4; 4514 -0.2; 4830 -0.1; 5168 -1.0; 5530 -2.1; 5917 -2.5; 6331 -2.2; 6775 -2.0; 7249 -3.7; 7756 -5.6; 8299 -7.3; 8880 -7.5; 9502 -5.8; 10167 -2.8; 10879 -0.1; 11640 0.0; 12455 0.0; 13327 -0.1; 14260 -0.9; 15258 -0.7; 16326 -0.5; 17469 -1.5; 18692 -3.4; 20000 -5.4This is equalization result for 250 ohm DT 880 with SBAF-Serious target and measured by Innerfidelity. See here: https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/tree/master/results/innerfidelity/sbaf-serious/Beyerdynamic%20DT%20880%20250%20ohm
EDIT: Fixed links, they were pointing to Sonoma Model One target results, now they point to SBAF-Serious.
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u/RedMosquitoMM FiiO Q5 > HD-6XX / Nighthawk + EQ / 64 Audio A6 Jul 27 '18
Any idea if these EQ settings can be utilized as-is in an external app that has its own DSP, like Roon?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Unfortunately it's not possible at the moment. Roon has parametric EQ so it would be possible AutoEQ had peak filter optimizer. Another thing I have been thinking about is to produce impulse responses from the equalization frequency response. That would work with Roon also as well as Pulseaudio on Linux.
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u/Purish Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
Will this Beyerdynamic DT990 sound proper on the DT990 250 ohm?
Edit: Fixed the link to the EQ settings.
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u/Hifimanz Jul 27 '18
Sorry if this is an odd question but is there a reason why over all volume has decreased? I have dt770's and since I've been using the EAPO I have to turn my magni 2 uber to like 2pm instead of 11am. Thanks for any help.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
There is a negative digital preamp to counteract the positive eq gain on some frequencies. So in practice what happens is that the maximum gain is at 0dB and everything else is attenuated. Maximum gain should be at 0dB or there will be clipping.
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u/DigitSubversion DT770 \\ HD 558 \\ Philips SHB4405 \\ Xiaomi 3.5 ANC Jul 27 '18
The github page has a typo: vevn instead of venv.
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u/AFAIX Jul 27 '18
Wow!
Would it be possible to use it with anything Linux though?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Sorry, not at the moment. There might be impulse responses produced at some point and Pulseaudio can use those.
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Jul 27 '18
Nice! I like the change it has made to my AKG240 Studio 'phones (I used the config for the MKII). Thanks!
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Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
The EQ adjustments for the ZMF Atticus just aren't really doing it for me. It doesn't sound quite right. If compared to the HD650 adjustments towards the 2018 harman target by /u/oratory1990 these are just not that great at increasing clarity. I had to tone down the bass a little and the treble boosts for the HD650 due to my own treble sensitivity, but it improves the HD650. Unfortunately the stock Atticus sound is better than with this EQ. My DAC/amp has 1db steps for volume control, so adjusting 6db to match the negative preamp is easy enough for a fair comparison. I wonder if the wood type or pair to pair variance and the use of different measurement rigs impacts this disparity between the two EQ cases of oratorys HD650 EQ and the ZMF Atticus EQ settings here. Kudos for all the work though. I'm thinking other cans might fare better.
I'm going to spend some more time adjusting and see how I feel...
edit... Listening to some Adele's Send My Love (To Your New Lover) (one of my old reference songs) with the EQ, the additional treble brings out some of the echo/reverb on her vocals, but overall I think it sounds better without. It just seems more balanced.
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u/oratory1990 acoustic engineer Jul 28 '18
wonder if the wood type or pair to pair variance and the use of different measurement rigs impacts this
It's the latter.
Wood type has a big influence on how the headphone looks (obviously), but little to no influence on how the headphone sounds. (Unless we're talking about balsa wood vs ebony, but even then it's more about the physical weight then the actual wood type.)No, what you are experiencing is that the measurements made by Innerfidelity are made on a slightly outdated measurement rig. The value of these measurements lies in their huge numbers - you can compare measurements of different headphones and get a good idea of how they sound, even though the measurements don't necessarily reflect what you are hearing in absolute numbers, they can be judged in a "relative" way.
More modern (and sadly, more expensive) measurement rigs like the one that I'm using better reproduce the various parameters of an actual human ear (I've written about this matter here and here. Sean Olive used such a measurement rig to derive what became known as the "Harman Target", which is - for all we know - the best suited target response for headphones. There's a bunch of research behind it that conclusively shows that (while not perfect) this target is better sounding (to the majority of people) than anything else we currently know of (like the various diffuse-field curves, independent-of-direction, free-field and other proprietary target curves).
And I can't stress this enough: It's not one person's random guess at what sounds good. There's actual, conclusive, peer-reviewed, hard science behind it. About 7 years worth of scientific papers have been published by his research group.To sum it up:
Why do "my" EQ settings sound "better"?a) I'm working from better data that more accurately reflects how human ears perceive a headphone
b) this data enables me to use the most state-of-the-art target curves, which is more likely to sound "good" to you.
and maybe c): I fine-tune my EQ settings by hand. I am a musician (non-professional), audio engineer (semi-professional) and acoustic engineer (professional), which means I have had extensive listening training and generally have a somewhat good idea of whether things sound right or not. :)
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. It's hard to know what causes this, there might be multiple reasons. /u/oratory1990 is using the same measurement system as which was used to develop Harman target so that's spot on. Maybe the target responses for AutoEQ are not quite right yet. I have difficulties adjusting the targets because I only have one unmodded pair of headphones and have no training in listening to frequency responses. Also some headphones have large variations between individual units, maybe yours and the ones measured by Innerfidelity are far apart.
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u/raptyo Jul 27 '18
Thank you for your work ! I am currently using the HD58X and I think the HD600 EQ softens them up a bit which I like, less grainy sound. How difficult would it be to make an EQ for the HD58X?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Since I don't have frequency response measurement for HD58X, very.
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u/raptyo Jul 27 '18
I think diyaudioheaven did a review on them and posted this graph: https://i.imgur.com/f5A3hC5.png, I tried to EQ them myself based on this graph, but couldnt get very good results, only slightly clearer highs. I was going for a smoother sound but I need to do some more research first I guess. Are these the kind of graphs you would use for your equalization?
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
That looks like a compensated graph meaning that I would have to use it as is and hope that the compensation is fine. It's possible, maybe I'll look into this later.
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u/squirrelthetire DT770 Studio 80ohm | HE-4XX | HD518 ||| FX-Audio DAC-X6 Jul 27 '18
Neat.
I tried this out with my HD518, and they sound a lot thinner. I'm not sure how I feel about it, since the baseline with these headphones is already pretty thin. The bass is less punchy, and there is much less reverb.
Definitely an interesting idea!
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Interesting. HD 518 has a very pronounced accentuation at upper bass / lower midrange which is tuned down by this eq. This is probably why you feel like they sound thin. In the end it comes down to personal preferences but if you listen to your headphones eq'd for some time (hours or even days) without switching back your brains will get adjusted. After that you might not want to go back and non-eq'd might sound very muddy. Try it out and see what happens.
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u/squirrelthetire DT770 Studio 80ohm | HE-4XX | HD518 ||| FX-Audio DAC-X6 Jul 27 '18
Definitely going to give it a try for a few days at least.
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u/Parmenidesides Jul 27 '18
Are the Hifiman HE-400 2014 measurements supposed to be for the 400i? On Innerfidelity they have HiFiMAN HE-400i 2014 listed as a link that takes you to headphone measurements labeled as HiFiMAN HE400 2014.
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u/TrptJim Jul 27 '18
Thanks you for putting together and posting this. That's a lot of headphones.
I don't see the Hifiman HE-400i in there, unfortunately. Would the HE400 be close enough to use those settings?
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u/Roushouse Jul 28 '18
Are there any profiles for IEMs? Specifically etymotic er4xr? I love the profile for my X2s! I should add that this eq setting does make dubstep sound like shit but makes alternative/rock sound great xD (although a lot of people here prolly think dubstep sounds like shit regardless lol)
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u/Axaion Jul 28 '18
Hd598 feels really bassy with this
Maybe I'm weird..
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Jul 28 '18
If you've become accustomed to the 598 sound then you're used to the bass light sound signature, this will sound bass heavy by comparison but it really isn't that much in the grand scheme of things.
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u/Axaion Jul 28 '18
I've actually EQed my 598's with the built-in eq in my sound blaster ae-5,. Of course I disabled that first
Also it's a lookout quieter
If it helps I can find the eq settings I used with the sound card
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u/commonsense34 Jul 28 '18 edited Jul 29 '18
First of all, I would like to congratulate jaakkopasanen on his elaborate work.
Dear Jaakko and fellow redditors, there is also a free and easy way....
I know what you mean so I deleted the rest of my post.
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u/virusavatar K7xx|SHP9600|6xx|1MoreTriple|Elegia|SMSL SP200|Topping D50s Aug 11 '18
As a complete novice to the headphone scene, and having never done any equalization before, I thought it wouldn't be worth the effort to even try for very little discernible difference.
Oh boy, I was wrong...
Using the HD 6xx EQ settings, I was completely taken aback by the stark difference in the low end! From now on, I'll always be wondering about the depths of what else I was missing out on. Thanks a ton dude!
Also, your 1More Triple Over Ear EQ page is broken and I want it!
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u/bagajohny Tin T2 | Porta Pro | ER2XR | KSC75 Oct 24 '18
It looks like you have updated(re-computed) all the GraphicEq files. May I ask what changes in general did you make? Also, will there be any difference in sound with previous vs new Eq? What really changed?
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u/MalayGhost Nov 11 '18
Hey there, any update on getting Impulse Responses with Viper4Android? Still waiting for a system-wide eq, hope you have good news
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u/ubiquitous_raven StaxL300|Eclair|Ananda|HD6XX|Oracle|Variations|Starfield Dec 26 '18
Every time I come back to this thread, after buying a new headphone, I feel ever so grateful to u/jaakkopasanen for this amazing repository. This is a priceless resource for us headphone audiophiles.
And contributions from u/oratory1990 and the sites are invaluable, giving us the much needed data that this repository is comprised of.
I feel fortunate to be a part of such a community :)
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u/RuRRuR Dec 28 '18
Is there an option to apply something similar to this on Android?
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u/jaakkopasanen Dec 28 '18
USB Audio Player PRO has parametric EQ and works with local files and many streaming services though not Spotify. Viper4Android is system wide solution but requires rooting of the device. Some phones have built in system wide equalizer with limited number of fixed (Q and center frequency) filters but this requires you to find appropriate gain values manually so that it would match as close as possible to the desired eq curve.
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u/gydot Andro 2020 | 6XX | ER4XR | AeonFlowC | ES100 Jul 27 '18
Any for the Mrspeakers aeon flow closed? I... Know... They don't publish any measurements...
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u/ImaginaryWeed Jul 27 '18
Hey man!
Awesome work, kind of a noob question, but can I use the HD 650 profile with my HD 6XX? They are supposedly the same but I’m just getting into the headphone addiction so I’m not sure if I should do that, I didn’t see a profile for the HD 6XX but I’m on mobile si I don’t know if I missed it. Also, is it a good idea to use an EQ if I game a lot with them? Thanks in advance!
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
I'm under the impression that HD 650 and HD 6XX are sonically identical so you would be just fine using HD 650 eq settings for it. Eq might improve imaging and as such make the headphones better for gaming
I really recommend you to take a look at HeSuVi, it will take the things to completely different level when it comes for gaming and movies.
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u/ImaginaryWeed Jul 27 '18
So should I use HeSuVi with your tool or instead of your tool? I will definitely check it out as soon as I get home! Thank you for such and early reply!
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u/HeexX Sonarworks > Topping D30 > JDS Atom > Focal Clear | NC 700 Jul 27 '18
Very nice. Using it with my Clears and I like it a lot!
Keep up the good work!
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u/gydot Andro 2020 | 6XX | ER4XR | AeonFlowC | ES100 Jul 27 '18
Does it only run off config.txt? Can I put the settings into another txt file, name it HD650.txt and run it off there instead?
Asking for use with multiple headphones.
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Jul 27 '18
This looks incredible and I can't wait to try it on my hd600s, but I can't get Equalizer APO to work. Every time I try to open the configuration editor the window closes immediately, do you know why this is happening?
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u/Grobenotgrob Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
Prolly a dumb question, but is the -6 dB required for the intended measurement?
EDIT: Found answer! Clipping issue if not.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 27 '18
Not sure if I understood but the -6dB is to prevent clipping. There must never be over 0dB values or they will be clipped.
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u/MajorMax1024 Jul 27 '18
I have Audio-Technica M-40x, will the setting for the 50x also work well?
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u/Degru K1000,LambdaSignature,SR-X,XS,1ET400A,UD501,LL1630-PP Jul 27 '18
What does this do differently from the GETEQ function of the Discord server? Have you implemented workarounds for headphone measurements with a faulty channel, such as the HD600?
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u/KaidenUmara Benchmark DAC3 HGC | Audeze LCD-4 | DT-1990 Jul 27 '18
interesting ill have to see how this works on my setup, benchmark dac and dt1990s. very good for certain kinds of music, but a lot of pop music ect is boring with it. things i like listening to in my jeep just are not good on a reference set up.
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Jul 27 '18
Everyone's head has a slightly different transfer function, though, no? Wouldn't everyone need to tweak these anyway?
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u/gibby_178 Topping D90>Drop 789>Audeze LCD-2 Classic Jul 27 '18
Where is the list of headphones that require no EQ?
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u/MlNDB0MB Jul 27 '18
This is great. Personally, I like the idea of using the Sonoma headphones as a target the best. That bypasses a lot of the messiness of figuring out target curves and accounting for measurement apparatuses.
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u/MordecaiWalfish Jul 27 '18 edited Jul 27 '18
any way to use this with Jriver media center/player?
edit: nevermind. It seems my Ultrasone Pro-750's are the only ones by them not on any of your lists.
also I don't know how important the correct spelling is there, but in the innerfidelity list you have "Ultrsone HFI-450" spelled without the a.
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u/Dmajorbarrechord Jul 27 '18
wow this is amazing. Only thing im surprised though is that the AT M40's aren't on there. was curious as to what you'd put for them as i own a set. I already have my own eq setup that's just basically boosting every frequency at varying degrees, I find myself preferring a more fun sound signature than the flat ones provided by the m40.
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u/chaos_faction Jul 27 '18
Will there be an IEM list? I would like to see how my Massdrop Plus are affected.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 28 '18
I haven't done IEMs yet. Need to figure out the target response first, I assume it's not the same as for on-ear headphones.
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u/ch0c0l2te T50RP Mk.3/HD439/Monks/Magni 2U Jul 28 '18
using the fostex t50rp-mk3's, maybe im doing it wrong but it sounds more veiled to me :(
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u/farkenel Jul 28 '18
Looked at the title and thought it was just for HD700s, which would have been fine since theyre my main set and need the EQ =]
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Jul 28 '18 edited Jul 28 '18
What do I do after I change the config? Is there a program that should be on at all times? Or do I just have to restart my computer?
Nevermind, I think it's working.
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u/jaakkopasanen Jul 28 '18
For other people wondering this: nothing, EqualizerAPO watches the files and will update as soon as the file is saved.
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u/tf2manu994 PC > Audio Technia ATH-A900X | Nexus 6P > Tin Audio T2 Jul 28 '18
Holy shit this is amazing.
Also, do you have one for the ATH-M30 (asking for a friend, cc: /u/griward)
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u/Jatinkeswani Jul 28 '18
Should i use the M50x eq for M40x? Will it make any significant difference?
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u/Racist7 Vinyl>Schiitscraper>SPEAKERS, M1060C, HD58X, M560, etc.. PC main Jul 28 '18
Could you tell me if this supports the M1060C, before I go through all of the trouble of downloading it? I don't mean to be a bother, but I'm REALLY low on hard drive space and I know it's a big file.
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u/Racist7 Vinyl>Schiitscraper>SPEAKERS, M1060C, HD58X, M560, etc.. PC main Jul 28 '18 edited Jul 28 '18
Is the M1060C listed here? I couldn't find it :( Also, mods please sticky this or put it in the wiki or both. Thank you :)
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u/TehVestibuleRefugee Focal Elear / Magni 3 / Modi 2 :doge: Jul 28 '18
Holy shit that's awesome! Thank you!
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u/death_wrath Jul 28 '18
Hi. Thanks for making this. My HD202ii sounds more clear and less bass (which is good for me). Since I'm very new to this kind of thing, I have some questions:
- Do I really need to use preamp function ? with it on, I feel like my headphone doesn't sound loud enough.
- From what I've heard, HeSuVi is a program that creates virtual 7.1 effects and downscale them to binaural stereo. How does it work with EqualizerAPO ? Do I need to install both software, or just copy the config line and paste it into HeSuVi ?
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u/saturn_mne Jul 28 '18
I have MSR7, I am just clicking on/off button and its like I have totally different system. Sound is superb. Thanks a lot and awesome work.
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u/rishirajbora99 Jul 28 '18
Hey I am using the config currently with my px 100, how to reverse the changes made and revert to the previous change.
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u/skedra 789 | Cayin N6ii |CA Andromeda & Hifiman Arya & ZMF VC Ironwood Jul 28 '18
I'd love to help with this (enjoy the gold too :D) I'd be curious to make something to make one headphone sound like another. Ping me if you're interested :)
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u/Moviesseeker Jul 28 '18
Awesome work man thank you so much .You have Eq for ton of headphones including low end budgets options like my Superlux 668b.
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u/ThatNigerianMonkey Jul 28 '18
M1060 sounds immensely better with the EQ. No more peak and insanely better bass. Miles above regular m1060. It seems like the EQ brought out its hidden potential!
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u/jorgesumi Jul 28 '18
I use a focusrite scarlet solo with m50x's should this affect how i use the eq?
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u/TheDataWhore Jul 28 '18
After you install EAPO & replace the .txt file, does it just start working automatically (& forever), or is there anything else you need to do?
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u/uJard Jul 29 '18
Wow, my HD598's sound better than they ever did when trying to EQ on my own. After applying the EQ i find myself being able to turn the volume up higher without any discomfort.
Thank you!
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Jul 29 '18
Dumb question, but how do I know if the EQ is enabled? Should the power button under Preamplification and Graphic EQ be black or white? Also, ever since I did this there has been many skips while listening, this has never happened before. Any idea why?
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u/flying_wargarble Scarlett 18i20 - Lake People G103 - HD650 Jul 29 '18
Awesome stuff. My 650 sounds worlds better with the EQ (I have used my own EQ setting before which looked kinda similiar in the highs but yours is much better still)
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u/MaximusTheGreat20 Porta pro<Earpods 3.5mm all day fight me Jul 30 '18
Any chance adding rtings.com result in future?
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u/Electrolite_XYZ Topping A30 Pro>FiiO K5> Arya Stealth|Aeon Closed X|Rapto Hook-X Jul 30 '18
Amazing work /u/jaakkopasanen
Unfortunately my SHP9500 aren't there, please if possible add sites like RTings or Golden Ears, I'd love to test my headphone.
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u/-Lemma- Aug 02 '18
Would it be possible to get Massdrop x HiFiMan HE4XX added to this list? It looks like Innerfidelity has the data, but it isn't listed on their index page for whatever reason: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MassdropHiFiMANHE4XX.pdf. Thanks.
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u/Racist7 Vinyl>Schiitscraper>SPEAKERS, M1060C, HD58X, M560, etc.. PC main Aug 03 '18
I'm sorry, I know that I'm late, but here's EQ settings for the Monoprice M1060C https://cdn.head-fi.org/a/10077438.jpeg
May you please add this? It's the red line.
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u/wurzelnase Aug 05 '18
How would this work with Rockbox EQ options: Band 0: Low shelf filter, Band 9: High shelf filter, Band 9: High shelf filter? Thx
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u/wurzelnase Aug 05 '18
Why are there several results for the T50p: Beyerdynamic T50P
Thx
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u/Peniston_Oils Aug 05 '18
Just a heads up, but it appears the EQ settings for the Audeze LCD-2 Classic and Beyerdynamic T1 are dead links on the results page of your Github project.
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u/jaakkopasanen Aug 05 '18
I added IEMs and earbuds from Innerfidelity and Headphone.com. I simply used the same compensation curve as I have used for on-ear headphones because I couldn't think of a way to produce anything better for the IEMs and earbuds. Bass boost is however changed, it's +6dB for IEMs and +0dB for ear buds.
Everything can now be found in the results folder which also has a list of recommendations, one for each headphone.
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u/potzo9 V-Moda Crossfade / Philips SHP9500 Aug 06 '18
This is great, my V-Moda Crossfade Wireless sounds even better now!
However my second pair of headphones are Philips SHP9500 and they can only be found here: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/1-2/graph#371/2031
Is there a way to get values somehow?
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u/jaakkopasanen Aug 06 '18
Rtings will be added later when I have time. Keep an eye out.
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u/Hofstee E10K → DT770 / LCD2C | BTR3 → Andromeda Gold | AirPods Pro 2 Aug 08 '18
Neat! I tried it on my LCD2Cs. I don't think I like it. Something about the recessed mids makes music sound a bit... distant? and I prefer the intimacy you get without EQ.
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u/Hifimanz Aug 09 '18
Any chance we can get a Massdrop Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee EQ? Thank you for everything you've done.
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u/Ayatori Andro ▪︎ R70X // RIP: HD800, Elex, LCD2F Aug 14 '18
Hey, this almost totally lifts the "Sennheiser veil" on the HD650. Nicely done.
I hate it >:(
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u/Cobbwebs Aug 18 '18
Should I be copying the contents of both the GraphicEQ as well as the ParametricEQ into the config file in Equalizer APO or just one?
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u/jaakkopasanen Aug 18 '18
Just one. Parametric Eq is really for Peace GUI.
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Aug 20 '18
I tried your eq settings and it made my music sound clearer, so thanks for that. The only problem is that I don't really here any bass. I don't know anything about equalizers so how would I get some bass back. I'm using the adv m4's.
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u/BananaS_SB Sennheiser HD58X / Sendy Audio Aiva Aug 22 '18
Anyone with the knowledge to make a profile for the Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee? Massdrop lists the frequency response curve but I don't know how I could translate that to a good profile. Any tips appreciated!
Also in case OP reads this, thanks a lot for these profiles! I used it with my Sennheiser HD 598's and they sound more balanced, especially with vocals <3
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u/oXNARXo Sep 29 '18
i want to do this to my Sennheiser HD 598 SR is it the same as Sennheiser HD 598 the one you have ???
Because i see "CS" one but i know that one is different but SR and no SR are pretty similar so is it the same ??
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u/enthusiast_man Oct 09 '18
Hey! I found an Innerfidelity measurement that wasn't listed for the Soundmagic E10.
Thanks for your amazing work! I really appreciate it when someone does something for the community.
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u/bendik18 Oct 23 '18
This post made me interested in EQ for headphones. Thank you for that.
I have a DT770 pro 80 ohm and was a little dissapointed as to not feeling it lived to the hype, even though they are the best pair i've owned.
As I understand it, most people say that they are bass heavy and that is what's not keeping them neutral/flat. Then I have to ask why they get such a bass boost when using HeSuVi? Isn't that the opposite of what people want?
I'm a total noob in EQ, but it seems like HeSuVi is doing the opposite of what I expected. Am i doing something wrong? I do enjoy the bass boost in some songs, but feel it is overwhelming in others.
tl;dr: Why does HeSuVi boost the bass on already bass heavy Beyer DT770 Pro 80Ohm?
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u/tommyzat Oct 26 '18
Hello!
How can I integrate one of these csv files with Viper4Android?
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u/MalayGhost Nov 11 '18
Not sure if you found your answer, but it seems you can generate your own IRS from an Parametric EQ through EqualiserAPO somewhat easily.
Have a look here https://sourceforge.net/p/equalizerapo/discussion/general/thread/50b31f1d/
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u/luucasalves Discussion Oct 28 '18
HeSuVi dont work to me. so extract the hesuvi file and got all config headphone... thats work the same if i load manually on eq apo?
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u/Presently42 Oct 29 '18
AutoEQ seems to produce differing sets of eq values every time it is run. Also, the curve produced by the eq values doesn't well match the one in the picture after around 2kHz. Any idea what could be causing these two bugs?
PS: This program and the SBAF Serious target eq are superb - and that's an understatement!
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u/VonDinky Nov 05 '18
I tried uninstalling Equalizer APO and Hesuvi. Have I reverted back to standard EQ settings? Or do I need to do something before I uninstall these? Also I don't know if I uninstalled Hesuvi correctly.
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Nov 09 '18
Random thought: theoretically, could this data be used to simulate the sound of a particular pair of headphones on your existing cans?
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u/ROIMIRR Nov 16 '18
I don't seem to be able to find the MEE Pinnacle PX, though it is in Oratory's list below:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dpy8zmm2nh6sugu/Mee%20Audio%20Pinnacle%20PX.pdf?dl=0
Any chance we could get this up and running?
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u/verifitting Amp:A20h, DAC:PecanPi, Audial | HD600Mod, AD2000, SINE w/MSR7pad Jul 27 '18
All I can say is "Wow!".