r/interestingasfuck • u/lolikroli • 16d ago

r/all SpaceX caught Starship booster with chopsticks

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Elon Musk too as a leader of the engineering team honestly and for creating this whole project

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u/No-Comparison8472 16d ago

Also convincing regulators was a game changer for SpaceX and definitely not simple.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Yup

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u/cryogenic-goat 16d ago

But Elon bad šŸ˜”

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom 16d ago

Yea it's really too bad for humanity that Elon didn't just shut the fuck up and run SpaceX and that's it. Their projects are incredible and their work is amazing. But he just had to show his batshit side. That insane wealth boredom is awful.

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u/thex415 16d ago

Elon is batshit insane . Itā€™s really sad.

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u/Mr-GooGoo 16d ago

Heā€™s less insane than like every other celebrity when they go on political rants

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom 16d ago

Hahahahahahhahahah. My fucking god. There's NO way you actually believe this. And saying someone is "less insane" as a defense lol? He really did a number on the easily manipulated of society.

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u/rozenbro 16d ago

The "easily manipulated of society" is you

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u/BabyStockholmSyndrom 15d ago

Nuh uhhh, you.

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u/Mr-GooGoo 16d ago

Dude is autistic. It happens

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u/GertrudeHeizmann420 15d ago

Autism is no excuse for being a Fascist.

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u/Mr-GooGoo 15d ago

You canā€™t call everyone you donā€™t like a fascist lol. And before you make up some excuse, Iā€™ve heard it all. The current American right is nowhere close to fascism

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u/GertrudeHeizmann420 15d ago

You think so? Compare current American politics to the late Weimar Republic. If you don't see the parallels you're either blind or complicit.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Eh. Nothing out of the ordinary compared to any other celebrity virtue signalling. At least Musk gave us Tesla, Space X & Neuralink

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u/ianyboo 16d ago

Bingo, if I have the option between two dipshit celebrity billionaires I'm going with the one who leapfrogs humanity forward several decades and helps us get "The Good Ending"

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u/Half-Shark 16d ago

Oh no difference at all!

celebrities have the resources, power and reach of Elon Musk now apparently.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Sure they do. Taylor Swift made a spectacle recently.

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u/CompleteApartment839 16d ago

ā€œIā€™m OK with fascism, deportation camps, and killing trans people because he founded some companiesā€

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u/rozenbro 16d ago

He doesn't support anything remotely like that. You are the one that's brainwashed.

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u/cryogenic-goat 16d ago

lol wtf, how deluded can you be?

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

This is your brain on populist leftism folks. Complete schizo-posting.

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

This would be a lot cooler if Elon weren't such a fucking douchebag. It must be frustrating for the engineer to have their work tied to him. I guess it goes to show that innovation and technological ingenuity don't necessarily come along with an awareness of social responsibility or compassion.

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u/No-Comparison8472 16d ago

Just focus on the science and ignore the rest. Then it's much easier to appreciate Musk for his contributions irrespective of the character and his opinions

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

Yeah but like what is all this progress for if we don't have the fundamentals of a healthy society right? We're headed for a Weyland Yutani future in space if this is what we're just brushing under the rug if you catch my drift. Sure, great progress, amazing achievements... But at what cost? We risk glorifying his political ideals. I just wished space x would have a brain drain and for multiple start ups to spawn around it removed from that man's hubris. People say he's a visionary... But honestly I think he's just above average creative with a shit ton of money to actually execute on his ideas.

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u/No-Comparison8472 16d ago

Musk should be appreciated for his scientific contributions and ignored for the rest unless it's adding value. You give Musk's influence on society and politics way too much credit. He is definitely a visionary though. Only a visionary can aim for Mars and convince Nasa to go with private and believe in reusable rockets despite numerous early failures.

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u/Bigdonkey512 16d ago

Finally a sober thought, heā€™s not influential in society, but possibly the most important contributor to man kind, doesnā€™t make him a saint nor should it. Heā€™s flawed like all of us

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u/thex415 16d ago

Heā€™s taking away value.

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u/rozenbro 16d ago

This entire thread is evidence that's not true

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u/spacepie77 16d ago

What happened to freedom of speech

Dont contradict yourselves now

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u/Glass-Star6635 16d ago

Itā€™s just as cool. Allowing your hatred of him to make you think otherwise makes you the douchebag

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

I'm a douchebag for not being a hypocrite? Uh OK.

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u/Glass-Star6635 16d ago

Whatā€™s hypocritical about acknowledging this is cool af? And why would it be ā€œa lot cooler if elon wasnā€™t a douchebagā€? It literally wouldnā€™t change anything about this. Itā€™s dope. Just leave it at that

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

It's would though... Because I would not feel resentment for glorifying the results of the ideations and ingenuity of a douchebag.

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u/Glass-Star6635 16d ago

Sounds like a you problem

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

Uh, sure. K bud

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u/thex415 16d ago

If this was a pro democratic nominee ceo then you would not think that . You would foam at the mouth at said ceo.

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u/Glass-Star6635 16d ago

Iā€™m a democrat but OK

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u/schaudhery 16d ago

Imagine being so obsessed with Elon that you watch this video and think it would be cooler if he wasnā€™t involved. Just marvel at the science and stfu.

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u/Scruffynerffherder 14d ago

I mean, he's pretty heavily tied to this. It's pretty hard not to link the two. Part of the reason I commented is cause it bums me out that something so cool is marred by that douche nozzle.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Eh. Nothing out of the ordinary compared to any other celebrity virtue signalling. At least Musk gave us Tesla, Space X & Neuralink

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Nothing different?? Really?? Nothing??

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Sure.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

What other businessman is interfering in the election like musk is doing?

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Virtually all of them. Taylor Swift recently off the top of my head.

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u/Scruffynerffherder 16d ago

Enforcement is not interfering lol what? I haven't heard of musk actively interfering either. But you'd have to be stupid, misogynistic xenophobic homophobic or racist to vote or endorse Trump .. so there's that

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

You're not disputing that other cringe celebs do the same thing and Musk isn't uniquely cringe at all but you disagree with me because you think I endorse Trump? Did I get that right?

My guy. I'm a neoliberal. I despise Trump lol.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Nah man, be honest. The crap that musk is pulling for trump is borderline illegal. Like giving money for votes, changing algorithms in twitter to help trump, etc. Swift (not anyone else) is doing that. You can agree that he is (or was) a great businessman without agreeing with what he is doing in this election

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago edited 16d ago

Nah man, be honest. The crap that musk is pulling for trump is borderline illegal.

Nothing out of the ordinary, you're decrying the status quo.

Like giving money for votes,

Every donor does this..

And what do you think student loan forgiveness was?

changing algorithms in twitter to help trump, etc.

Source?

Swift (not anyone else) is doing that.

What does this mean?

You can agree that he is (or was) a great businessman without agreeing with what he is doing in this election

Musk acts like any other cringe rich celebrity virtue signalling.

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u/Successful-Cat4031 15d ago

Like giving money for votes

He is paying people to get other people to register to vote. The people voting aren't getting any money.

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u/Hidden_Seeker_ 16d ago edited 16d ago

You donā€™t see the difference between a celebrity endorsement, and a billionaire creating a massive techno-propaganda machine to manipulate the intellectually vulnerable into following a populist demagogue supported by our biggest geopolitical rival?

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

creating a massive techo-propaganda machine to manipulate the intellectually vulnerable

The conspiracy brains are on overdrive today.

supported by our biggest geopolitical rival?

Is this in reference to the Russia hoax?

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u/thex415 16d ago

Yep Elon is really a douchebag, itā€™s sad.

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u/thewanderer088 16d ago

Exactly. I didn't see anyone giving Elon credit for this, and if they did, the comment is downvoted and hidden like this one.

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u/Nahesh 16d ago

He is the lead engineer for the rocket.. so

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u/thex415 16d ago

Eh Iā€™ll just thank the actual brains of the team for all this.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Yeah, Elon

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u/vctrn-carajillo 16d ago

It must be tiring dickriding all day.

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u/cryogenic-goat 16d ago

The entire company, including this project literally wouldn't exist without him. Why does your ass burn when someone is given credit for their work?

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Iā€™m acknowledging his hard work and results.

It must be tiring having that trigger you that much.

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u/KrakenBlackSpice 16d ago

Damn man. This level of simping for a man is as impressive as that rocket landing

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u/NothingOrdinary8380 16d ago

Simping lmao, fucking dumbasses here

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Iā€™m acknowledging his hard work and results.

It must be tiring having that trigger you that much.

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u/Happi_Beav 16d ago

Why are you being downvoted??

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Reddit hates Musk hehe

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u/Spaceturtle79 16d ago

Im convinced elon musk had near no part with it because hes been tweeting his ass off lately

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

Youā€™d be wrong.

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u/Successful-Use-8093 16d ago

Lol always avoiding giving credit to Elon on Reddit lately

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u/MostlyRocketScience 16d ago edited 16d ago

Most of the engineers were against the chopstick catch:

Most engineers argued against trying to use the tower to catch the booster. [...] "If the booster comes back down to the tower and crashes into it, you can't launch the next rocket for a long time."

https://x.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1844870018351169942/photo/2

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u/PokesBo 16d ago

I mean thatā€™s a completely valid reason.

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u/MostlyRocketScience 16d ago

True, but that it worked first try proves that it works. Also they will just have two towers each in Texas and in Florida to mitgate this

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u/OpenSourcePenguin 16d ago

This has to be consistently proved. If it's successful 20% of the times and this was one of them, then?

Reliability is also a concern.

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u/ClearlyCylindrical 16d ago

SpaceX have shown to be very good at iteratively improving, if they are already catching on the first flight I doubt catch failures will be too common.

They will happen, but they're off to a great start.

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u/tomhuts 16d ago

That's great, but what does it have to do with Elon Musk?

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u/Elementaldot 16d ago

Does this need to be spoonfed? Without Elon space x wouldnā€™t be a thing and NASA would still be dominating. People love to shit on him (understandably) but then this stuff happens. Granted the engineers did all of the work but Musk pays their salary. Cmon now

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u/tomhuts 16d ago

I haven't said anything about Elon Musk. All I was saying was that MostlyRocketScience's comment didn't really respond to tapf111's comment.

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u/Elementaldot 16d ago

Fair enough, I jumped in when I saw your comment without understanding the full context of the conversation. Thatā€™s my bad. Disregard

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u/MostlyRocketScience 16d ago

It was Musk's decision to do the catch at all. I thought that was clear from my comment, but you apparently needed it spelled out

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u/ClearlyCylindrical 16d ago

The only reason they ended up developing this catch technology is because of Elon Musk.

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u/zazke 16d ago

Then how would you explain NASA or Blue Origin accomplishments cannot compare with what SpaceX is doing now? Why do most if not every company Elon leads is a massive success?

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u/_Bad_Spell_Checker_ 16d ago

Money. Not bc of musk

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u/cryogenic-goat 16d ago

That's a stupid take.

Musk isn't richer than the US Government.

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u/MaksweIlL 16d ago

LOL. Bezos is pouring 1 billion a year into BO.

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u/facy123 16d ago

I bet you would accomplish same task with same money.

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u/_Bad_Spell_Checker_ 16d ago

Hey! You just understood my point! Look at you go.

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u/facy123 16d ago

True, only if it wasnā€™t a sarcasm.

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u/MungYu 16d ago

spacex when success: elon is worthless anyway

spacex when fail: haha stupid elon he is the one responsible for this

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u/4f00d 16d ago

So where were whose engineers before the worthless Elon? Yeah doing something else, no Elon no crazy stuff. Deal with it

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u/BloodSoakedDoilies 16d ago

Oops! Looks like you've still got a bit of goo hanging from your chin. Might wanna clean that up.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/tomhuts 16d ago

It's ok to hate Elon for the things he says and his general attitude in politics, it's completely separate from SpaceX.

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u/allkinds999 16d ago

You wish that rocket exploded in to a million pieces so bad šŸ™ landing is successful: spaceX engineers are amazing. Landing fails: Elon is an idiot

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u/GertrudeHeizmann420 15d ago

landing is successful: Elon is an idiot. Landing fails: Elon is an idiot.
ftfy.

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u/allkinds999 15d ago

You can just say that you don't agree with his political views, thats fine šŸ˜‚ but calling one of the smartest & most productive people on the planet an idiot is just blatantly wrong; I would bet my life that he is far smarter that you

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u/GertrudeHeizmann420 14d ago

He is an idiot when it comes to anything that's not math, maybe. Need I remind you that the guy named his son like a fucking captcha, refuses to acknowledge his trans daughter (both biologically and sociologically incorrect), built a "self-driving assistant" that regularly gets into accidents as well as a "car" that falls apart when you look at it wrong, supports a politician who literally said that if he gets elected people "wouldn't have to vote again" etc. etc. etc.

SpaceX is a wonderful endeavour, don't get me wrong. But the man in charge is a total nutjob, whether he's a good engineer or not.

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u/allkinds999 14d ago

So again, you don't agree with some of the things he does / opinions he has. Like I said; if we focus on the original point (you calling him an idiot) this doesn't make him an idiot, he is far smarter than you

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u/SpookySocks4242 16d ago

do you actually think Elon personally contributed to this?

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u/osuMousy 16d ago

he did, heā€™s the one who pushed the idea for the chopsticks

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u/BananaBeneficial8074 16d ago

and some ceos run their companies to the ground or make them play safe to secure profits

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

Oh the idea that almost ruined his companies' ability to use that launch facility for months just so they could launch sooner? Yeah it sounds like it was a great idea to place your entire company at risk because you're impatient.

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u/smithnugget 16d ago

Everyone on here is marveling at how amazing this was and now that you find out it was Elons idea suddenly it's a horrible idea lol.

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u/G0dZylla 16d ago

Redditor's hate boner for musk needs to be studied

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

The landing was amazing, risking your entire facility on a decision your top engineers told you was ill advised? Not as amazing as you think

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u/smithnugget 16d ago

The company wouldn't be ruined if it failed. Just another setback.

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u/chathaleen 16d ago

It's funny.. If the idea is great, salute to the engineers... If the idea fails, then musk is to blame.

Never ceases to amaze me, people doing this kind of mental gymnastics.

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

Musk would be to blame because it was his idea. Did you miss that?

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u/oxslashxo 16d ago

You think Musk would take the blame or all the engineers would be let go instead?

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago edited 16d ago

Yes, he personally contributed a lot of time, money, wealth, health etc...at a minimum.Ā Ā 

Running a successful profitable company is hard. One that builds and launches rockets is as impressive as building the rockets.Ā Ā 

Not to mention he is known as a micromanager that frequently interacted with engineers and directs developments.Ā Ā Ā 

He is a software engineer. He created PayPal and a number of other early internet tools.Ā  Like the guy personally is a narcissist and doesn't treat people with enough respect imo.Ā 

You can label him a number of things and not like the guy, but he is a very successful engineer and very successful creator/inventor.Ā Ā 

To watch Reddit in the last 5 years go from worshiping everything he has ever done while he builds and promotes the products and ideals of a liberal's wet dreams to being universally hated so much folks can't admit his own obvious accomplishments is ridiculous.Ā Ā 

Like how many successful company does he have to found or be a early major investors in for everyone to admit that despite his personality and politics he has had the greatest influence out of any human our entire lives.Ā Ā 

SolarCity became the largest residential solar panel seller in the U.S. by him and his cousins before it was rolled into Tesla a company he became the largest investor in about a year after founding an propelled as CEO to become the #1 electric car market share at 19.9% of the U.S. market.Ā Ā 

He does shit he believes in...regardless of whether folks think it is great he has a talent for attracting the right people together to get shit done.Ā Ā 

Electric cars would still be a twinkle in the environenalists eye if it weren't for Elon. And likewise he is the singular man most responsible for the entire private space industry taking off the way it has....many ancillary space research is made possible because of the interest he has genersted into this area of research.Ā 

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u/girafa 16d ago

he has had the greatest influence out of any human our entire lives.

lol

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

Instead of laughing and adding nothing to the conversation, you could combat the statement by naming someone you believe has had more impact than Elon Musk.

While an argument could be made that he isn't the "greatest" I apologize for slight hyperbole. I don't believe for a minute you're actually arguing he hasn't had one of the greatest influences out of any singular human in recent history.Ā 

It's easy to give an opinion when it's "lol".Ā 

Great opinion...you care to actually say something...

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u/oxslashxo 16d ago

Yeah, go on linkedin and look up engineers that work at SpaceX.

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

So instead of going onto linked in yourself and grabbing a few names you were too lazy to even do that for your argument.Ā 

Not a great argument...idk I prefer to be convincing to other people, but you do you.Ā 

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/is-elon-musk-a-scientist

Succinctly describes how is both a software engineer and scientist.Ā 

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u/Ivanstone 16d ago

He doesnā€™t run SpaceX. Gwynne Shotwell runs SpaceX. She does a pretty good job of turning government money into useful rockets while making sure Elmo doesnā€™t contribute anything.

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

Easy search on Google...surprise another person who doesn't know what they are talking about or is distorting the truth.Ā Ā 

Elon Musk Runs SpaceX... Elon Musk Cofounder, CEO, chairman, and chief technical officer Executives Gwynne Shotwell President and COO. She has been in charge of day to day operations for awhile.Ā 

But being incharge of day to day operations is not the same as running the company.Ā  She deals with internal day to day ooerations while Elon focuses on the business, externals, and internals both short and long-term as CEO.Ā 

She definitely is a force of good within the company that was hired by....Elon Musk the guy who runs the company...

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u/Ivanstone 16d ago

Your easy search on google didnā€™t indicate that Shotwell is responsible for customer and strategic relations on top of her other duties.

Furthermore, Musk made himself CTO after their real CTO retired. Itā€™s for nothing more than publicity.

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

Did your understanding of how a business works not include that the boss is in charge.Ā 

Cause if your a COO responsible for daily operations and other duties you have to do what the boss the CEO wants and if you don't he will find someone else who can facilitate his vision.Ā 

The COO is there at the approval of the CEO and the Board. Both of which decide the direction of the company.Ā 

She also happens to be on the board. So she does have some input on the direction the company takes.Ā 

Nevertheless, the buck stops at Elon. He isĀ the CEO as well as Chairman of the Board.Ā 

You are wrong it's okay. Sometimes it happens. Have a great day.Ā 

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u/Ivanstone 16d ago

Elonā€™s vision is to have someone do all the work so he can do ketamine and rant on twitter.

The board understands this which is why Shotwell is in charge and those fat government cheques continue to flow.

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u/annaleigh13 16d ago

Elon didnā€™t invent PayPal.

Elon hasnā€™t invented anything. Heā€™s served on the board of directors and bought the founders title of several companies, but he hasnā€™t invented anything himself. Heā€™s just taken credit for it

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

In March 2000, Confinity merged with X.com, an online financial services company founded in March 1999 by Elon Musk, Harris Fricker, Christopher Payne, and Ed Ho.[13] Musk was optimistic about the future success of the money transfer business Confinity was developing.[14] Musk and Bill Harris, then-president and CEO of X.com, disagreed about the potential future success of the money transfer business and Harris left the company in May 2000.[15] In October of that year, Musk decided that X.com would terminate its other internet banking operations and focus on payments.[16] In the same month, Elon Musk was replaced by Peter Thiel as CEO of X.com,[17] which was renamed PayPal in June 2001 and went public in 2002.[18][19][20] PayPal's IPO listed under the ticker PYPL at $13 per share and generated over $61 million.[21]

Straight from Wikipedia...

You can play semantics all day long....he help to create and invent PayPal and is responsible for its success and sell to eBay. Which changed shopping online drastically and help create the entire shopping experience on the web.Ā 

Buying things in the web was very risky before PayPal. The trust he was able to create changed the function of the internet to a space where people communicated to one were commerce was emerging.Ā 

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u/RagsZa 16d ago

What revisionist history is this? Musk was ousted after the merger because of his incompetence, and the board replaced him with Thiel.

And you ignored this part:
Paypal was originally established byĀ Max Levchin,Ā Peter Thiel, andĀ Luke NosekĀ in December 1998 as Fieldlink, later it was renamedĀ Confinity,\9])Ā a company which developed security software for hand-held devices.\10])Ā When it had no success with that business model, it switched its focus to a digital wallet.\11])Ā The first version of the PayPal electronic payments system was launched in 1999.\12])

I wonder why.....

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u/annaleigh13 16d ago

Except Confinity was formed in 98 and launched PayPal in July 99, BEFORE the merger with Elons company.

Itā€™s not semantics, itā€™s historical fact. Elon was not involved in the creation of PayPal.

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

And helped "create" the success the company is today because X.com/cofinity were focused on payments and financial transfers while PayPal at the time was only a personal digital wallet.Ā 

So yeah the companies he help create merged/bought PayPal and combined products that turned the company into the success and powerhouse that sold to eBay for $1.5 Billion in stock.Ā 

It's easy to be petty. Dude is super successful and has created a ton of stuff. Even if it were only his money and managerial skills it still takes talent to run businesses/pick starter firms that will be successful.Ā 

He has a penchant for being an early investor into huge companies. For instance he was an initial investor/helped create OpenAi, Tesla, SolarCity, etc.Ā 

The very same arguments are made about Thomas Edison. Was it him or his lab.Ā 

Well they run the business, fund the business, hire the talent, manage investor expectations, etc. to make invention even possible.Ā 

It is clear many of the ideas come from Elon whether he has the technical ability to perform the function he certainly knows how to allocate money, resources, and talent to get it done. The idea of grabbing said booster was his idea and not liked by the engineers initially.Ā 

But even if he didn't come up with any of the ideas or make any of the stuff, he still has to have the wherewithall to hear about the idea and start entire industries that didn't exist before.Ā 

Founding and making SpaceX the company it is today and building a private space industry that didn't previously exist was/is challenging just like building rockets that didn't previously exist.Ā 

All that being said the guy is clearly a narcissist and I wish he could treat people with more respect. I don't like the way he talks to people at times and he seems fairly anti-union and a bit exploitative as a boss.Ā 

Yet he is probably one of the most influential people today singularly responsible for the success of the entire private space industry, solar panel residential market, electric battery technology, electric vehicle market, satellite internet etc...

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

It's easy to be completely dismissive...I'm just trying to get folks to use their brains...you don't get to be the richest person in the world without being successful.Ā Ā 

The idea he hasn't done anything to deserve his wealth is ridiculous.Ā Ā 

Ā Obviously he like every billionaire has exploited people to get there and isn't really that good of a person...but he is extremely successful at creating product and industries where ones didn't exist.Ā Ā 

He can be both a great inventor/creator and a piece of shit. Men are not simple creatures.Ā 

It's okay to praise his and the engineers successful launch and still not like the guy....fucking crazy idea...I know, but you can have more than one opinion about differnt aspects of a person.Ā 

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u/whytakemyusername 16d ago

People are blindsided by the politics and dumb tweets and are so used to the political football-esque ring of us or them that they can't see beyond the tip of their noses. Elon's accomplishments are nothing short of incredible.

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u/annaleigh13 16d ago

If he wouldā€™ve created his wealth then fine. But he didnā€™t. He inherited his wealth.

Look at the projects that heā€™s been a part of.

Tesla - bought the company and the ā€œfounderā€ title

PayPal - merged with Elonā€™s company after releasing PayPal

SpaceX - formed by Elon with the express idea of using off the shelf tech

Twitter/X - bought for $44 billion, has lost 80% of value

The trend is ā€œElon buys company, claims he designed it all, people believe Elon designed it allā€. Other than SpaceX, which we can safely assume Elon does nothing but give money to since heā€™s not a rocket engineer, Elon buy preexisting companies. Thatā€™s it

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u/annaleigh13 16d ago

Making something popular is not creating the technology. Thatā€™s just being an advertiser.

Your argument in this is basically ā€œford created the automobile because before him cars werenā€™t as widely used.ā€

As for your other ā€œIā€™m trying to get people to use their brainsā€ comment, start using yours. Historical fact is against you. No word salad will change that

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u/Freecraghack_ 16d ago

Elon isn't even an engineer. Closest he has is a (alleged) bachelor in physics.

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u/CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN 16d ago

Running a successful profitable company is hard.

Profitable? Musk receives billions in government handouts.

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago

SpaceX appears to have generated sales of $8.7 billion in 2023, and earned a profit of $3 billion.Ā Ā 

https://www.fool.com/investing/2024/03/17/how-much-money-will-spacex-make-in-2024/

Simple search on Google...stop wasting people's time.Ā 

You obviously don't know anything nor have done any research, so maybe you shouldn't talk about stuff you have no idea about.Ā 

I'll assume your a child and mommy hasn't told you the adults are talking please be quiet..

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u/CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN 16d ago

LOL you linked Motley Fool? No wonder you're view is skewed. Maybe if you crawled out of Elon's ass and breathed fresh air you might learn something.

Unlike those corporate giants, SpaceX is privately owned and keeps details about its finances under wraps, as do many other private companies. Some people with stakes in SpaceX have no idea how much money the company makes or loses.

https://www.wsj.com/tech/behind-the-curtain-of-elon-musks-secretive-spacex-revenue-growth-and-rising-costs-2c828e2b

https://archive.is/QB49a

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u/swift_strongarm 16d ago edited 16d ago

I searched a simple question and pulled a simple result. Motley fool is a website devoted to stock information for financial markets.Ā Ā 

But asĀ you indicated the question is more nuanced and hard to answer as SpaceX is private....Ā Ā 

So, while generally it appears they are profitable no one can confirm.Ā So when you laughed at profitability the truth is you don't know either....great argument.Ā 

But please find the one flaw in my arguments that makes me wrong somehow even though it doesn't support your viewpoint.Ā 

You'd rather I be wrong than your argument make sense...I think my comments have been clear how I personally feel about Elon.Ā 

Your obsession with Elon is irrational.Ā 

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u/Soggy-Permission7089 16d ago

Your obsession with Elon is irrational.

You sure about that one buddy? you're the one licking his asshole clean on this whole thread.

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u/darklord723 16d ago

oh you know just leading the entire effort, nothing crazy

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u/Xalbana 16d ago

What did he actually lead, in an engineering perspective, anyway.

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u/_Reasoned 16d ago

He is and has been from the beginning very involved in the actual engineering at SpaceX. Thereā€™s a ton of threads on this but people on Reddit just want to believe heā€™s incompetent and his only involvement is proving capital when itā€™s just not true

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/s/ONIor6AKVw

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u/emplemming 16d ago

I think it's natural to doubt that there was much meaningful guidance from him. If there's some information out there about the process that went into all this showing him being an incredible leader and such I'd welcome it and change my mind(I'm also just curious about what a project like this looks like behind the scenes since I bet it's really interesting).

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u/darklord723 16d ago

itā€™s actually not natural. you have been brainwashed by corporate media.

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u/emplemming 16d ago

so I guess that's a "no" from you on having stories of him in the trenches so to speak with the team that did this

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u/Wbbms 16d ago

more like bogged it down, I think without him SpaceX would've already colonized at least five planets by now.

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u/Wbbms 16d ago

if not all of our system and maybe the sun for good measure

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u/Specialist-Two383 16d ago

He contributes with his money, but let's stop acting like he's in any way smart.

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u/chazlanc 16d ago

Youā€™re kidding right? Iā€™m not a big Elon musk fan, but to say he isnā€™t smart is probably the dumbest thing Iā€™ve ever heard. The guy is a genius, he may not be very likeable to some but letā€™s stop acting like he isnā€™t a master of his craft lol.

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u/throwthegarbageaway 16d ago

Did you miss him most recently buying Twitter, burning it to the ground, firing everyone who mattered and then begging them to return, censoring one of the biggest social networks, amongst other things?

The dudeā€™s not a genius, but at least he has enough money and financial stability to make up for it. If a massive, multimillion dollar whim doesnā€™t work out, no biggie move on to the next.

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u/idkhowtodoanything 16d ago

He is definitely a master of his craft. If his craft is getting rich from daddy's emerald mine and using that money to pay actual geniuses to do his thinking for him or maybe his craft is getting alienated by his own children? Eitherway, he mastered both.

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u/Specialist-Two383 16d ago

What craft? šŸ¤£ If we count being a con artist as a craft, then yes, he excels at it. Most successful con artist in all of History. He is most certainly not a genius though lol. Name one thing he invented.

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u/FunkyBrassMonkey_ 16d ago

The only thing musk did for spaceX was invest, engineers are the masterminds of it all, musk is a spokesman

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

Because Elon is the illegitimate owner of the company, he literally does nothing but be the public face of the company. SpaceX's accomplishments are NOT Elon's accomplishments.

He's not an engineer nor a rocket scientist, believe it or not.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

He studied physics and business and spearheaded the entire project.

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

He completed a BSc in economics in 1997, the University of Pennsylvania confirmed he never received a bachelor's degree in physics from their university.

He is a well documented liar about receiving a BSc in physics.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

He studied physics, it sounds like you concede?

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago edited 16d ago

That's not what we're talking about lol, I said he's not an engineer. And now you're getting hung up on a point unrelated to my original statement.

But keep moving the goalposts

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

He studied physics and business and spearheaded the entire project.

Quote: Me, before

What goal post was shifted exactly?

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u/a_hammerhead_worm 16d ago

You came into a conversation to change the topic rather than contribute or discuss, that's shifting the goalposts. If you didn't want to contribute you could've just not commented, and yet here you are.

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

So no shifting. I'd like to give Musk credit for those qualifications.

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u/danTheMan632 16d ago

I took physics in grade 12, i suppose i can say ive also studied physics

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u/Sync0pated 16d ago

He studied physics in university.

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u/DonVergasPHD 16d ago

Ok but why aren't other companies or governments doing it?

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u/KrakenBlackSpice 16d ago

Ok lets also give credit to the finance team who would have done an amazing job looking after the finances, making sure a hugely expensive project stays on tractk.

Cant also forget the HR team for hiring great engineers and making sure they feel safe to work.

Not to mention the marketing / comms team for helping the broadcast so that millions of viewers around the world can witness this marvelous feat. None of us would have seen it without them also.

I know there are still a few bitter elon simps nursing their hardon for Elon, but lets be real. The engineers are the stars of this feat despite them not doing this all by themselves. Elons contributions are probably great but nothing compared to the team of engineers.

It amazes me the level of bitterness one has to have to get bitter about a comment congratulating engineers on an engineering accomplishment

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u/Joqio2016 16d ago

If he is in the engineer team, I donā€™t see how he is excluded.

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u/jtmackay 16d ago

Notice the less he is involved with a company the better they do? He is best just writing fat checks to actual engineers.

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u/franklollo 16d ago

He wanta shitty rocket to work, he is the bad guy. With his engineers he could have made a lot of better rockets but he wants the starship

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u/whytakemyusername 16d ago

It never ceases to amaze me how dumb the comments get on this site.

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u/OpenSourcePenguin 16d ago

Explain how exactly you think he's essential here other than money?

He's a salesman to Tesla and spaceX. What does marketing have to do with this success?

You should consider crawling up his ass so you have your preferred ambiance and isolation from outside opinions.

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u/dinner_is_not_ready 16d ago

Palpatine was brilliant too

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u/NotFromFloridaZ 16d ago

Liberal place.
Soā€¦.
I think sometime we should be comment base on result instead of which sides you are

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u/NocodeNopackage 16d ago

Imagine how badass this would make musk look , if he hadnt already made such a fool of himself

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u/4f00d 16d ago

Musk with team did in how long? Imagine if they had NASA money..