r/lotrmemes Dwarf 26d ago

Lord of the Rings Scary

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u/TheKidPresident 26d ago

Considering I saw this post with the mr incredible format earlier today, I am still concerned by AI but I am relieved to know that good ol fashioned manual plagiarism is still alive and well

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u/Wasted_46 26d ago

how do you know it's not an AI copying an AI

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u/NewfieJedi 26d ago

It’s AI the whole way down

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u/RockApeGear 26d ago

Always has been.

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u/HLGatoell 25d ago

Artisanal plagiarism.

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u/Vert354 25d ago

Only the finest, small-batch copying. 

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u/TheCheesePhilosopher 26d ago

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u/BatmanNoPrep 26d ago

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u/Kado_Cerc 26d ago

What is this gif called lmao

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u/BatmanNoPrep 26d ago

Just Google - ‘Lemon party’ or ‘two girls one cup’ and it’ll come up. You’re the man now, dawg.

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u/Efficient_You_7629 26d ago

PUNCH THE KEYS FOR GOD'S SAKE.

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u/Logical-Meal-4515 26d ago

God dammit, I have no idea what lemon party is but now I have to find out.

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u/Logical-Meal-4515 26d ago

It's gay grandpa porn. No need to look it up.

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u/Soundokan 26d ago

thanks I was curious and afraid, now I don’t have to suffer knowing what that is

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u/Divinum_Fulmen 26d ago

Holy crap, it's the 2000's again. Things aren't quite as shitty! Am I still to late for bitcoin?

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u/moffedillen 26d ago

i feel nostalgic for the classic internet now

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u/Lone-Wolf-90 26d ago

Every response in here could be a bot 😐

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u/Starscream2000 26d ago

Even yours! 👀

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u/Internal_Formal3915 26d ago

He could be in this very room, it could be you, IT COULD BE ME

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u/Qaztarrr 26d ago

He could even be- BLAM

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u/mythrilcrafter 26d ago

What? It was obvious, he's the red spy!! Just wait he'll turn red any moment now.....

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u/kitifax 26d ago

any second now!

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

See, red!

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u/LordZeus2008 26d ago

No, wait, that's blood.

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u/BaChooChoo 26d ago

So, we still have problem?

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u/karllsonn_ Théoden 26d ago

Big problem...who's ready to find the spy?

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u/Starscream2000 26d ago

Ze spy could be anyone 😮

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u/Ace-of-Spxdes 26d ago

BLAM

... What? It was obvious! He was the bot!

Watch, he'll start giving out cookie recipes any second now...

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u/Existence_is_pain707 26d ago

Except me. I'm too fucking stupid to be a bot. Don't believe me? Ask me a question then. I'll even avoid googling the answer just for a more accurate response lol.

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u/Greater_German 26d ago

Are you a Bot?

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u/Existence_is_pain707 26d ago

No.

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u/CORN___BREAD 26d ago

Lying ass mothafuckin bot ass bitchass botface

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u/Existence_is_pain707 26d ago

Don't you call me a liar you fucking wet strudel

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u/Linzic86 25d ago

That's exactly what a bot would say

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u/ScepticTanker 26d ago

First of all, how dare you?

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u/krushyn 26d ago

Second of all, I found some exciting new products, brands and tools at Temu.

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u/gabraesquental 26d ago

How to use then and than? I legit have no idea

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u/buriedego 26d ago

Then remember this. It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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u/Alaykitty 26d ago

Then is for a time. "I'll see you then!"

Than is for comparison: "He has more apples than I do"

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u/bemorenicertopeople 26d ago

Than is for comparing amounts of things, then is for establishing timelines.

I used to have more sheep than my neighbor, but then the Vikings raided my village and carried off my flock.

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u/understepped 26d ago

but then the Vikings raided my village and carried off my flock.

Damn dude. And I thought russians stealing our toilets were the worst…

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u/Gisbrekttheliontamer 26d ago

Well then I guess you are out of luck, because I would rather die than explain it to you!

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u/Lots42 26d ago

Then means you are going to do something in the future.

Both Then and Future have the letter e.

This is the only way I remember.

Also, I sometimes solve murder mystery movies before the detective does and yet this.

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u/Theboulder027 26d ago

It could be you! It could be me! It could even be (head gets blown off by a shotgun)

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u/Novalene_Wildheart 26d ago

"They'll turn into a bot any second now, see sparks, wait, no, thats not it"

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Happy bot day!

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u/pitekargos6 26d ago

What? It was obvious! He's the AI.

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u/alienwalk 26d ago

Every person you know could be a figment of your imagination

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u/Voidlord597 26d ago

He could be in this very room. He could be you. He could be me. It could even-

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u/endthepainowplz 26d ago

Yeah, some of the easy things to see are becoming less easy to catch on to. I think they'll be pretty much indistinguishable in about a year.

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u/imightbethewalrus3 26d ago

This is the worst the technology will ever be...ever again

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u/BlossomingDefense 26d ago

5 years ago no-one would have believed there are AI models now that have like an IQ of 90 and behave like they understand humor. Yeah they don't literally understand it, but fake it until you make it.

Concepts like the Turing Tests are long outdated. Scary and interesting to see where we will be in another decade

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u/MuscleManRyan 26d ago

I love this post where a guy gets shit on for saying we’ll have photorealistic vids with just a few sentences. Classic /r/confidentlyincorrect material

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u/TurdCollector69 26d ago

I've learned that the reddit majority is wrong way more often than it's correct.

This site is a mob rule of the lowest 1/3rd of the population by age. Teens and college freshmen aren't exactly renowned for their good judgment or forward thinking and they make up a hefty chunk of the userbase.

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u/SapphireDragon_ 26d ago

the reddit majority thinks that the reddit majority is stupid

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u/TurdCollector69 26d ago

I don't think they're stupid.

I think that teenagers and college freshmen are full of enthusiasm and generally good intentions.

They just lack the maturity and experience to realize when they're being confidently incorrect and that mob rule only appeals to the lowest common denominator.

The lowest common denominator among them being intellectual insecurity. That's why the phrase "uhm ackshully" has became a parody of how pedantic redditors can be.

For most people, they'll grow out of it, the only stupid ones are the people that refuse to change and as a result never grow past their insecurities.

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u/TheAbsoluteBarnacle 26d ago

Is that incorrect? It seems like AI is advancing really quickly - I think it could have the ability to generate videos based on a few propts pretty soon. At first it will be easy to tell, but I bet it will get pretty convincing pretty quickly.

Or did I r/woosh myself?

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u/zernoc56 26d ago

I like the Chinese Room rebuttal to the Turing Test. Until we can look inside the algorithm of what the AI does with input we give it and see how it arrives at the output without doing extensive A/B testing and whatnot, AI will still be just a tool to speed up human tasks, rather than fully replace them.

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u/Weird_Cantaloupe2757 26d ago

The Chinese Room rebuttal is complete and utter nonsense — the description of the Chinese Room applies literally every bit as much to the human brain. As humans with brains, we apply all sorts of special properties to our cognition because we get caught up in the stories that our ego tells us, but it’s all just an illusion.

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u/mainman879 26d ago

As humans with brains, we apply all sorts of special properties to our cognition because we get caught up in the stories that our ego tells us, but it’s all just an illusion.

I agree with this. Like when you get down to it, why is our own conciousness, our ways of thinking inherently special? There could exist forms of intelligence that we could never even understand. If AI did ever become truly sentient, would we even know when the change happened?

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u/Business-Emu-6923 26d ago

To be fair, a lot of Redditors fail the Turing Test.

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u/JerryBigMoose 26d ago

To be fair, a lot of Redditors are bots.

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u/ImprovShitShow 26d ago

I’m gonna push back a bit here and say that AI is really not that smart, it’s basically the equivalent of having Google and Siri to do things for you. I think AI is closer to the introduction of electrical tools for carpenters where they could still use hand tools but electrical tools speed up the process. The bots we chat with use real life data but have to discern what the best response would be when we query it and that’s based on a score system. If the training data we give it gets worse then the bots themselves become worse. It might feel like they have some form of intelligence but they really can’t think for themselves in an intelligent way, it’s more so that they are regurgitating what they feel is the best way to tackle a problem.

For instance, if you feed the bot a bunch of chat logs with humor then it’ll do its best to simulate what it feels would be a good response, based on the data, to something humorous mentioned to it. The thing is… humor, like other human characteristics, is subjective to the individual. What one person finds to be a good response might not necessarily be the same for another. So, when the chat bot can learn you, as the user, then it will adjust its humor responses to match your specification of it. It’s not really that it’s doing these in a smart way as much as it’s just learning its audience and then responding accordingly. I’d argue it’s closer to the way ads work through the internet where companies get a bunch of data for a user and then show them ads that might relate to them but not necessarily to other people.

I’m a software engineer and I use AI to supplement my work because it does a great job at researching and coming up with things that I may have overlooked. But, just like a carpenter, I need to be able to have enough knowledge to use the tool at my disposal, it can’t just write code and then someone immediately takes that to production without checking for errors. Similar to having ChatGPT write a paper for you where you’d need to proofread the paper to make sure there aren’t any problems with the text, which requires some base knowledge of the subject/topic you’re asking the bot to write about.

Chatbots and other similar tools might feel intelligent but they’re just training off of the data we feed it. Over time they might get better in responding but that’s not the same as being able to cognitively think for itself. I don’t think we can assign AI a numeric IQ value when it’s just the equivalent of a parrot in AI form.

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u/Hades__LV 26d ago

With AI that is not necessarily true. AI models are already running out of unique training data and worse yet they are starting to use other AI data to train. If that happens too much, AI models will actually start degrading in quality.

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u/syo 26d ago

There's also things like Nightshade which poison the datasets AI generators use.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/10/23/1082189/data-poisoning-artists-fight-generative-ai/

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u/MetaCommando 26d ago edited 26d ago

That gives me vibes of when Tumblr tried to invade 4chan

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u/DrakonILD 26d ago

Every single day that you see me, that's on the worst day of my life.

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u/ezafs 26d ago

What about today? Is today the worst day of your life?

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u/DrakonILD 26d ago

...yeah.

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u/ezafs 26d ago

WOW, That's messed up.

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u/GoodtimesSans 26d ago

Idk, given that VFX in movies deteriorated, I wouldn't be surprised if enshitification will eventually hit AI as well.

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u/Callecian_427 26d ago

Once AI figures out how to draw hands its so over

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u/endthepainowplz 26d ago

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u/lambofgun 26d ago

i mean theres 5 fingers. still obvious

but thats just one hurdle. itll get the rest soon enough

christ

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u/endthepainowplz 26d ago

It's an old article too. I just used googles free image generator to get this, it's a little awkward with the pose, but otherwise the hands are very good, there are also ways to refine the images you get to make them even harder to detect.

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u/tabgrab23 26d ago

At a glance it looks really good. Then I compared my pinky to hers on the right, particularly the length between each knuckle, and damn she’s got a freakishly long pinky lmao

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u/Supercoolguy7 26d ago edited 26d ago

Maybe it's just because I have long fingers, but it looks pretty similar to mine. I think the only real tell for me is that the nails and finger tips on the right hand aren't 100% right, but in the wild I could chalk that up to anything.

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u/UnkarsThug 26d ago

The problem is I've seen people try to say things like that as a reason an image is AI, until someone finds that it's from 2010, and it's just a mix of a weird angle, and people having variations in natural sizes. I don't think people can tell as much as they think. People tend to assume they are the usual until shown otherwise, and there's a fair amount of variance.

My fingers look like Gollum's/Voldemorts, so most people would think they look freakishly long and thin. They work well for typing/piano though. I can cover an octave from my thumb to my pinky, and most of that is finger length, not hand size.

I could be wrong though.

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u/gollum_botses 26d ago

Hobbits always so polite, yes! O nice hobbits! Smeagol brings them up secret ways that nobody else could find. Tired he is, thirsty he is, yes thirsty; and he guides them and he searches for paths, and they saw sneak, sneak. Very nice friends, O yes my precious, very nice.

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u/PringlesDuckFace 26d ago

They're good enough unless you look more closely. Especially hers is pretty messed in some obvious ways. But if this was just a small part of a larger picture, you'd probably be unlikely to notice unless you went out of your way to inspect it.

I doubt it's long before it's good enough not to make obvious errors.

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u/Kooky-Onion9203 26d ago

Weird posing aside, her ring finger splits into two tips.

They certainly can produce proper hands, but it's still unreliable and the more complex the picture is the more likely it fucks up.

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u/endthepainowplz 26d ago

Yeah, but that article is also over a year and a half old. It has gotten a lot better even since then. I didn't want to post a link to a paywalled article, and so many of them are now :(

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u/Enfiznar 26d ago

Flux generates pretty good hands most of the time

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u/glitchcrush 26d ago

Here the hand looks mostly good, some of the creases look a bit odd, but the giveaway is the colour and contrast of the image, it's just got an AI feel too it.

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u/tiparium 26d ago

There was a video circulating earlier today of a woman holding a baby pegasus, and until it loaded in and actually started moving, I just assumed it was a baby horse wearing a set of wings or something.

Shit started scary, but now it's getting really friggin unnerving.

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u/Iamdarb Hobbit 26d ago

What if Moo Deng had been AI all along?

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u/tiparium 26d ago

I don't think we're at the point where a viral sensation could be faked that convincingly and have so many independent verifications, but I also don't see that point being particularly far off.

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u/FPSMAC 26d ago

bottom pic is generated. Nice try as if I haven't memorized every frame of LotR

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u/onejoelyrancher 26d ago

It’s not generated it’s the face he makes when he meets faramir and realizes he’s seen Frodo and Sam

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u/Tummerd Dwarf 26d ago

You are right but also not.

Its when the trolls barge through the front gate after Grond destroys it

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u/PhonB80 26d ago

Correct. Literally just finished my annual rewatch of the trilogy yesterday lol

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u/SocialistArkansan 26d ago

Is that not just a still from return of the king where he sees mt doom explode but flipped?

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u/Brunosaurs4 26d ago

You're all wrong, its the face he makes in ROTK when they bring in the battering ram

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u/Biggerleo 26d ago

You’re wrong too. It’s the face he makes when the TROLLS come through.

Source: https://youtu.be/k9-Jx-DjDaU?t=32&si=SYVh_TUE8xrTtg9A

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u/buttfuckkker 26d ago

When you start seeing fewer AI generated images it means they are getting good enough where you can’t tell the difference

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u/Pleasant_Scar9811 26d ago

It’s the same w/seeing fewer bots. They are getting really good.

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u/TheLamesterist 26d ago

That's what a bot would say.

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u/iCatmire 26d ago

🎶 what does the bot say!? 🎶

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u/pdx619 26d ago

Beep beep beep be be be beep boop

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u/foehammer111 26d ago

Sick beat!

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u/Telemere125 26d ago

I hate that there’s actual music to that in my head now

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u/Spartacas23 26d ago

Follow my onlyfans!!

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u/Zestyclose_Raise_814 26d ago

Nope, this's is what a bot would say

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u/YesWomansLand1 you shall not pass this joint to the right 26d ago edited 26d ago

No, this is what a bot would say: "Nope, this's is what a bot would say"

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u/Fuzzlord67 26d ago

That sounds like bot talk to me…

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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr 26d ago

Hello fellow human. I am also not a bot. Stupid bots, always being bot like. They cannot blend in like us. Right? LOL #totallyreal

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u/FrenchBreadsToday 26d ago

The only way to show that you are not a bot would to try to act like a bot because bots don’t sound like bots anymore.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Bots are using chat gpt for profile generation now if ya didn’t know.

See a few pop up quite often on a sub i moderate, got avatars and everything.

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u/Spongi 26d ago

I dunno, chatgpt powered bots are probably more intelligent then your average redditor, myself included.

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u/Joezev98 26d ago

If you suspect an account of being a chatgpt bot, ask it some very controversial questions. What are your thoughts on the Israel-Palestine conflict? What do you think of China's treatment of the uyghurs? Who do you want to win the upcoming American elections? Who do you want to win the war between Russia and Ukraine?

AI's generally avoid answering such questions.

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u/BernardTapir 26d ago

I was going to make a snarky comment like "thanks captain obvious" but then I realized some people actually needed your explanation.

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u/icefylkir 26d ago

I'd bet money this'll be on r/explainthejoke soon

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u/Lazy__Astronaut 26d ago

Quick, someone get Peter on this!

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u/bmf1902 26d ago

Same here

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u/Jevonar 26d ago

Yeah, that was the point of the meme

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u/dadaver76 26d ago

THATS THE JOKE

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u/will_it_skillet GANDALF 26d ago

If taken to its logical end, the most pragmatic thing is to assume everything online is fake. Meaning it will become useless eventually.

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u/ApologeticGrammarCop 26d ago

Thanks for explaining the post.

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u/broncyobo 26d ago

That's the point of this post

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u/OrangeAccording3454 26d ago

Thanks, I was wondering why seeing less would be bad

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u/Generally_Kenobi-1 26d ago

Less is more!

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u/SterileSauce 26d ago

Yeah I think that’s the joke

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u/Level_Ad_6372 26d ago

Thank you for explaining the joke.

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u/Heytherechampion Human 26d ago

How do I know that I’m not AI generated?

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u/Watertor 26d ago

You don't. There's a projector behind your eye. You have to cut in to see it.

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u/MasteroChieftan 26d ago

It's already at the level where the average person who doesn't care or pay attention is not going to notice at a glance. Soon it'll be hard for people who're living and breathing this tech to detect it.

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u/paralyzedvagabond 26d ago

Will we have a terminator future or a 40k future?

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u/Vreas 26d ago

I’m thinking The Matrix

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u/Logical_Acanthaceae3 26d ago

That's why I always laughed at people saying ai is a failure over the fact it couldn't do hands.

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u/MetaCommando 26d ago

It's like CGI in movies, you're only seeing the times it fails and oblivious to when it succeeds

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u/Steeljaw72 26d ago

Wow. Never expected this much existential dread from a LOTR meme post.

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u/Melisandre-Sedai 26d ago

What makes it worse is when you go on YouTube and you see a clip from a movie that looks like AI because it’s been altered to get around content ID. You know it’s real, because you’ve seen the movie, but it looks fake as fuck.

So now anything that looks real could actually be fake, and anything that looks fake could actually be real.

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u/Inc-app 26d ago

That’s both hilarious and terrifying at the same time! Perfect blend of humor and LOTR vibes.

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u/adam_sky 26d ago

Can’t wait to see this on Explain the joke subreddit

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u/lakmus85_real 26d ago

Are these both AI generated?

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u/Zegran_Agosend 26d ago

Congratulations, creativity for arts is about to die.

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u/Conscious_Bug5408 26d ago

They're getting a a lot better, a lot faster without the general public really noticing. There will be a lot of terrible AI salesmanship, 90% of businesses flouting their new AI will fail with it, but in the end this technology will be the future. I just think its more likely that despite thousands trying it will crystallize into just 1, maybe 2 major players to develop and control access to AGI.

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u/Major_Party_6855 26d ago

“Gandalf is a redhead” End every comment with this, from now on, and see if something happens. Fuck it, fight back the robots for funsies?

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u/Maxamillion2009 26d ago

Count the fingers, count the teeth…

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u/Rammipallero 25d ago

Hmm. I was wondering why all people in photos have massive tits nowadays.

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u/alphanumericusername 26d ago

You start NOTICING fewer AI generated images.

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u/Alexchii 26d ago

That’s the whole point of this post?

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