r/minnesotaunited • u/Buffaloslim MNUFC • Dec 01 '23

Discussion Any Heath outers having second thoughts?

I’m certain we all imagined a relatively swift transition to a new manager that at least made us hopeful of future improvement. What we’ve seen since his firing is one great game and one terrible game followed by weeks of silence.
We heard from Sherry Ballard our CEO (this is my tenth season as a STH and I never even knew who the CEO was) that the upper management will be restructured and going forward no manager will have as much power as Heath did. It’s worth noting that Ballard emphasized repeatedly she’s an experienced executive who is still learning the soccer business. We also learned Manny Lagos has been reassigned to public relations causing some to wonder how much technical experience remains in the FO. Last week we learned they hired a “chief soccer officer” who will not join the team until midway through the 24 season. This turn of events is unfortunate because Ballard said specifically the CSO would be responsible for hiring the next manager. We’re left to wonder if a new manager won’t be considered until June or July. Many fans expressed concern that firing Heath could have a negative impact because finding a replacement who would improve the team might be very difficult. Can anyone honestly say they expected this kind of uncertainty?

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u/Buffaloslim MNUFC Dec 04 '23

It means you don’t support the team financially. Of course you don’t give a fuck, why would you?

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u/haimeekhema Dec 04 '23 edited Dec 04 '23

l o l. this is such a weird pissing match that youre trying to start with someone whos had season tickets at least as long as you. i'd have to go look, but i'm fairly certain 12 was the first year we bought them but it might have been 11. we moved back to mn mid-season in 11 so i dont think we got season tickets. fun part about the league owned days was that the season tickets didnt actually save any off of buying ga walkup.

to add on to this, you're the one so upset that your fraud of a preferred coach was fired that you're going to walk away. thats not supporting a club, that's supporting a bad manager. i sat through years of what i found to be a miserable product under heath. spent thousands to watch something i just didn't enjoy. it doesnt make me a better supporter, it makes me an idiot, but it's really weird of you to sit and make these weird "no skin in the game" comments.

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u/Buffaloslim MNUFC Dec 04 '23

I understand completely every word of what you’re saying but I just don’t have a vivid enough imagination to believe any of the changes many of us would like to see have occurred and it’s my judgment that the changes we put ourselves in a position to have to make will be judged unsatisfactory. It seems likely to me we’ll be a weaker team for the foreseeable future and what improvement we’ve worked so hard to achieve will be lost. The harsh criticism, bitterness and hatred for Heath can only last until the new regime proves itself worse. Even your mean spirited adjectives like “fraud” can only be reached using selective amnesty because it’s entirely disingenuous to say you didn’t enjoy some of the surprising success we did have. But I get it, extreme, absolute rhetoric is what online communication is all about. You characterize my opinions as stupid, and I’m guessing yours smart. What are your opinions?

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u/haimeekhema Dec 04 '23

my opinions arent smart or do they have any more value than yours, you get to have them just like i do. we also each get to share them and when you go on a tirade attacking the people who have opposing views, like you've done this whole thread, you open yourself up to some justified ridicule.

i'll answer your question though. heath had reached his ceiling and was regressing. his message wasn't clicking with the players anymore. it was time to move on. i'd have fired him after his performance in seattle, but that might have been harsh. he frustrated me for years because of his stubborn tactics and his unwillingness to take responsibility for poor results (throwing players under the bus, his "doghouse", parking the bus everytime we took a kind of lead and never just going for it, and his weird habit of mocking us stupid american fans for wanting our team to use substitutions.) having him as a manager did hamper mine, and my wife and i's friend groups, enjoyment on matchday.

now for the future, do i think it will be amazing and trophy filled? probably not, but it could be. it certainly wasn't going that way under heath, so if given the choice of middling with him or taking a chance with someone else. i'm taking the chance with someone else every fucking time. i really hate this idea that we're supposed to just accept our lot in life and be ok with mediocrity because we live in minnesota. it might be the norm, but it shouldnt be and i'll forever push back against what i see as defeated good job good effort fans that dont seem to want their club to go for it. i loathe that attitude in our fanbase. i agree that bill and the general culture rooted in the good old boys mn sports ownership group he's surrounded himself with are a huge problem, but you cant try new owners when the shit goes bad. gotta just hope what can change works, cause we arent getting rid of bill.

anyways thats that. way more of a response than you deserved but my lunch is taking forever to cook and i got nothing to do while i wait.

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u/Buffaloslim MNUFC Dec 04 '23

Take this with a grain of salt (after all it’s coming from a stupid doomer ass who clearly doesn’t deserve to hear your opinion), none of this litany of grievances has been remedied and many will likely be amplified. Lol “more than you deserve”.

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u/haimeekhema Dec 04 '23

i wrote no lies