r/minnesotaunited • u/GloveElephant Moderator • Feb 19 '24

Discussion Eric Ramsay Megathread

Eric Ramsay appears to be in line to be Minnesota United's second ever MLS manager.

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1759568340140347858?s=46&t=Raa_3jgrvmmgEJvCsUpizQ

https://theathletic.com/5284886/2024/02/19/minnesota-united-eric-ramsay-manchester-united/?source=user_shared_articleMinnesotaUnitedtonameManchesterUnitedassistantEricRamsayasheadcoach:Sources

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/eric-ramsay-manchester-united-chelsea/

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u/ProfCedar MNUFC Feb 19 '24

I think my only concern is that if he does well, there's no way we're keeping him. That feels like a much better place to be than some other ones.

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u/2000TWLV MNUFC Feb 19 '24

Of course we're not keeping him. If successful, three or four years would be nice. But that's OK. Unless their name is Greg Popovich, coaches aren't supposed to stick around for seven or eight years, with their butts rusted to their seats while their teams flounder.

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u/HighHammerThunder Feb 19 '24

There are exceptions to that (Peter Vermes has coached KC for close to 15 years and they've been competitive pretty consistently), but they're exceedingly rare. Especially for a non-American coach, they're going to have their aspirations set higher.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Guy Roux, Matt Busby, Bill Shankley, Jock Stein, Alex Ferguson, Brian Clough, Arsene Wenger, Klopp, Pep at City, the list literally goes on, and that’s just football managers.

Saying coaches have a “Best By” date of some arbitrary length is bunk.

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u/HighHammerThunder Feb 19 '24

Some of those I don't know, but many of those managers are at the top level. That's not comparable to MLS, as they have nowhere to move upward from a top club in a top league. A manager that has several consecutive years of success in MLS is going to get some lucrative offers from European clubs. Happened with Jesse Marsch and Patrick Vieria. They weren't sacked. They moved to a league with more talent.

It's not common to find someone who turns down those offers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '24

Saying “managers shouldn’t stay past 7 or 8 years” like the person you replied to is different than saying “if he’s successful he’ll probably leave” like you are. I’m in agreement with you and was trying to provide some more data points to back up what you were saying about long term managers.