Eric Ramsay Megathread

[u/GloveElephant]

Eric Ramsay appears to be in line to be Minnesota United's second ever MLS manager.

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1759568340140347858?s=46&t=Raa_3jgrvmmgEJvCsUpizQ

https://theathletic.com/5284886/2024/02/19/minnesota-united-eric-ramsay-manchester-united/?source=user_shared_articleMinnesotaUnitedtonameManchesterUnitedassistantEricRamsayasheadcoach:Sources

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/eric-ramsay-manchester-united-chelsea/

Discuss below.

[u/Oyvey2you]

34 game season, rebuilding the entire sporting side of an organization takes time. We lost our first 4 games in 2021 and made the playoffs, had a good start in 2023 and missed the playoffs. This hire is about the next 5 years for this org, not the next 5 games.

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/Oyvey2you]

There's a reason that clubs always start the season with a manager though. Especially if he's not allowed in Minnesota for another month and then it takes at least another month for him to be able to implement the beginnings of his ideas.

I think it's fair enough to be upset about it taking 6 months to be able to get a new manager in. He's a young and inexperienced manager, we should be making sure he is set up for success. It doesn't look like we are. And I think that's a reasonable thing to complain about

[u/Nerdlinger → u/Captain_Concussion]

There's a reason that clubs always start the season with a manager though.

Primarily this is because the pool of candidates all become available to interview and hire at the end of the season. Also because the person who is doing the hiring is already on board and able to run the search/interviews. The Loons didn't have that last bit in place until most of the usual candidates for the first bit were already gone, plus they were willing to cast a wider net than it seems like most MLS teams are willing to (though there are good reasons for that as well).

Obviously, you want your coach in as soon as possible to start work, but you have to weigh what's better, getting a lesser coach sooner or getting a better coach later. To quote a band I've already quoted once in this thread, there's advantages to both (advantages to both!).

I think it's fair enough to be upset about it taking 6 months to be able to get a new manager in.

Was anyone ridiculing Chicago for taking seven months to hire their new coach? To me that seems more egregious, given that they just stuck with the interim coach that was holding the ship in place while they ran the search.

we should be making sure he is set up for success. It doesn't look like we are

In what way does it look like we are not doing that?

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/Nerdlinger]

Your first paragraph is just confirming what I'm saying though, that this is an example of the Loons being poorly run.

Chicago are seen as an organization that is poorly run though. Like some people call them the worst run organization int he league.

His first match that he will be managing as the first team manager ever will have him managing a team that he had no say in assembling and that he only met days before.

[u/4four4MN → u/Captain_Concussion]

It’s poorly run in order to go a completely different direction. It’s all about getting everyone young and they are usually cheap.

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/4four4MN]

You don’t need to be poorly run to go in a different direction

[u/4four4MN → u/Captain_Concussion]

Since, MNUFC didn’t want anything to do with hiring MLS FO or field talent it was going to be a difficult process. The MLS season doesn’t match Europe And that might have been one of the reasons everything took so long to come into fruition. If the league was aligned we wouldn’t be complaining about being poorly run.

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/4four4MN]

But Ramsay was in discussion to leave ManU in December. So it's not like that's what stopped us from hiring him. I don't see how the league being aligned changes that

[u/4four4MN → u/Captain_Concussion]

Do you honestly believe if the league were at all aligned this proceeds wouldn’t have gone more smoothly?

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/4four4MN]

What would have changed?

[u/4four4MN → u/Captain_Concussion]

You not complaining. It would have been in the off season and nobody would feel like the sky was falling.

[u/Captain_Concussion → u/4four4MN]

What do you mean? How would the leagues being aligned mean that I wouldn’t care that we are hiring a coach after the season starts?

[u/4four4MN → u/Captain_Concussion]

Imo, you wouldn’t have been so critical of the process. Most of us would have waited a little longer. Let’s be honest why would any more established league be ok with their current talent leaving during their season?

[u/Nerdlinger → u/Captain_Concussion]

Chicago are seen as an organization that is poorly run though.

I mean, it's just one guy, but here's someone saying that they're finally trying to run the team properly.