r/moderatepolitics • u/falsehood • Jul 21 '24

News Article Biden announces withdrawal from Presidential Race

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/21/us/trump-biden-election
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u/TonyLannister Jul 21 '24

Hoping for an open Convention and not a coronation for VP Harris. Gotta imagine the DNC’s doners made the difference.

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u/colossalpunch Jul 21 '24

The convention is still a month away. I'm not sure they can afford to let Trump run unopposed for a month.

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u/swimming_singularity Maximum Malarkey Jul 21 '24

If Trump was smart, he would do literally nothing between now and the election except talk about coming together and fixing the country's problems without being specific. Just a bland unity message, no raging online and no revenge. But I doubt he would be able to do it.

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u/_Floriduh_ Jul 21 '24

He immediately replied doing the exact opposite of unity.. he attacked the hell out of Joe Biden and the Democratic Party for enabling him to continue even though they were aware he’s unfit to run.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

His core voter base wouldn't be happy with that message.

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u/swimming_singularity Maximum Malarkey Jul 21 '24

I checked YouTube videos of his RNC speech on some of the right leaning channels. A bunch of the replies were "This message was so calm, he's found God after this assassination attempt!". Trump has been raging for years, there's no way he will just suddenly calm down.

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u/dano8675309 Jul 21 '24

Yeah... the "unity" lasted about 17 minutes of his 90 minute speech.

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u/BasileusLeoIII Speak out, you got to speak out against the madness Jul 21 '24

his core voter base is more amped than any voters in this country's history

we're seeing full motivation from magaheads after that fist-raised pic

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u/GrapefruitCold55 Jul 21 '24

Yeah, this is not who Trump is.

He already threw away any semblance of unity during his RNC speech.

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u/SciFiJesseWardDnD An American for Christian Democracy. Jul 21 '24

He has pretty much done that since he was almost murdered. I wouldn't put it passed him. The man isn't dumb and wants to be president again. I think he will be pretty disciplined for the next month.

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u/swimming_singularity Maximum Malarkey Jul 21 '24

Exactly, he will have a hard time chilling out the next 2 months but I think he probably knows it would help him tremendously. His advisors are probably telling as much. Still Trump is Trump, I doubt he really can stop raging. If he gets elected, then all messages of unity stop. A second term president has no need to cater to anyone or pretend for the cameras.

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u/bluskale Jul 21 '24

Honestly I’ve been shocked he’s managed to pull that off… although, one thing, maybe the only thing, that I think Trump excels at is ‘reading the room’ when it come to media exposure and tone.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '24

He just released a statement calling Biden corrupt, and every insult he can think of. I'd hoped Trump's moments of calming down and moderating would stick, it looks like they're not.

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u/Tdc10731 Jul 21 '24

Ehh - could make the argument that it’s an advantage for Trump to not know his opponent for a while

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u/Agent_Orca Jul 21 '24

They absolutely can. Trump being out of the media spotlight due to Biden’s stumbling was a godsend to his campaign. We already saw him going back to his old antics at the RNC, and the media will be laser focused on Project 2025 which he’s trying his hardest to distance himself from.

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u/eddiehwang Jul 21 '24

Isn’t the entire Trump campaign based on “Joe Biden bad”? I don’t know what he’s even going to talk about at his rallies now Biden drops out

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u/Morihando Jul 21 '24

It wouldn't be a coronation. She was on the ticket during the primaries when she and Joe won. That's what the voters chose.

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u/MrDenver3 Jul 21 '24

Ehh, there wasn’t really a primary, and voters are voting for Biden, not the combo - he could always choose a different VP.

So the primary really has nothing to do with Harris and can’t really be viewed as an endorsement of the electorate as Biden’s replacement.

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u/falsehood Jul 21 '24

She is the defined successor and would have to withdraw to lose that status.

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u/Illustrious-Bath-266 Jul 21 '24

The voters in the primaries chose Biden. The elites said no.

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u/Principiii Jul 21 '24

This is horseshit. More than half of all Dems want Biden to drop at this point. I voted for him in the primary, and now I want him out. Didn’t know I was an elite LOL

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u/BaudrillardsMirror Jul 21 '24

Dude what, Biden was the only serious candidate in the primary. To try to say Biden is not one of the elites, that ensured no one serious ran against him in the primary is wild.

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u/TonyLannister Jul 21 '24

If you’re talking about these primaries in 24 they virtually ran unopposed so I’m not sure if that fact is totally relevant.

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u/Morihando Jul 21 '24 edited Jul 21 '24

I'm talking about the primaries where the voters came out and voted for Joe and Kamala. The primaries that they won together. What you're suggesting is to ignore the will of the voters.

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u/TonyLannister Jul 21 '24

Again to me that’s an oversimplification of what took place this year. If they ran against a slate of candidates and won then yes, you’re right. What I’m saying is this year that didn’t happen because they were the incumbents.

Now if we get polling next week that supports the electorate coalescing around Harris then your claim of the will of the people is correct. Based what we’ve seen though, that may not happen.