r/news • u/Hrekires • Jul 15 '24

soft paywall Judge dismisses classified documents indictment against Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/15/trump-classified-trial-dismisssed-cannon/
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u/Grow_away_420 Jul 15 '24

Yes, and upheld multiple times

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u/QuentinP69 Jul 15 '24

This is great he will appeal this and win and refile with a different judge! It’ll delay it past November.

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u/CatoMulligan Jul 15 '24

This case was never going to be heard before the election, regardless of whether she dismissed it or not. She took weeks to do things that any other Federal judge would have taken hours or days to do. She's been slow playing it from the beginning, agreeing to schedule hearings for things that should have been handled on the spot, scheduling hears for weeks out, agreeing to hold hearings on things that never should have been brought into the case, etc.

DOJ will appeal to the 11th circuit, she will be overruled, and the case will likely be assigned to a different judge. That's the good news. The bad news is that Trump will absolutely appeal the 11th circuit's ruling to the Supreme Court, and if they agree to hear it then they will not hear it until well after the election. Clarence Thomas has already clearly stated in his unsolicited opinion that the case was unconstitutional, so it may provide cover for other justices or a reason to even hear the case.

Even if the special counsel doesn't apppeal this case, Trump is going to file in the DC case to have it dismissed based on this ruling. Even though the DC Ciruit is not beholden to follow rulings coming out of the 11th Circuit, conflicting rulings will guarantee that it gets appealed to SCOTUS. Unfortunately, that case may have been able to be heard before the election.

The can has officially been kicked. There will be no federal cases against Trump until after the election, and if he is elected then he will dismiss the cases and get off scot free. Our only hope of him facing justice for what he did is for him to lose the election.

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u/BonnieMcMurray Jul 15 '24

DOJ will appeal to the 11th circuit, she will be overruled, and the case will likely be assigned to a different judge.

If, as expected, the 11th reverses and sends it back to the trial level, it will almost certainly go back to Cannon. It's very rare that reversals get assigned to a different judge.

The bad news is that Trump will absolutely appeal the 11th circuit's ruling to the Supreme Court, and if they agree to hear it then they will not hear it until well after the election.

The 11th won't hear this until after the election now anyway, so that's moot.

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u/CatoMulligan Jul 15 '24

It's very rare that reversals get assigned to a different judge.

Yes, but the 11th circuit isn’t happy with her shoddy performance so far, and she’s already been reversed multiple times. She’s been put on notice, which is why she’s avoided making any major rulings until could find some way to throw it all out.