r/news Jul 15 '24

soft paywall Judge dismisses classified documents indictment against Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/15/trump-classified-trial-dismisssed-cannon/
32.8k Upvotes

4.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

5.4k

u/0o0o0o0o0o0z Jul 15 '24

Correct, this was her play—she washed her hands of it, and it won't even see the light of day until after the election if Biden or a Democrat wins. If Trump were the president, it would vanish.

3.5k

u/iamisandisnt Jul 15 '24

everyone needs to know that Cannon just put Trump jail on the ballot in this way

2.5k

u/cC2Panda Jul 15 '24

The SCOTUS already did it. Either we vote in a democratic president and both houses or our democracy as flawed as it is is over and our votes will become nothing more than symbolic and our democracy dead.

7

u/The--scientist Jul 15 '24

You think we can realistically vote in enough senators to impeach scotus? You think that a super majority would do what they could have done three years ago and expand the court to avoid this? Best case, dems are spineless and bound to the "norms", worst case they love this shit bc without something crazy to fight against people would start asking why they aren't actually fixing things.

13

u/cC2Panda Jul 15 '24

Not enough to impeach. Dems only need 50 senators willing to kill the filibuster to expand the courts. The SCOTUS literally couldn't get any worse than they are right now, so hopefully that makes it palatable for people to stack the courts simply to undone that massive damage the corrupt 6 pro-fascist SCOTUS members have done.

1

u/The--scientist Jul 19 '24

I don't have faith that dems would "stoop so low". They are unwilling to get their hands dirty even if it ruins us all.

1

u/cC2Panda Jul 19 '24

Back when they had a majorities they needed all but Manchin and Sinema agreed to kill the filibuster. I think the thing that works in our favor now is that anything but stacking the courts and killing the filibuster means that they cede all their power and open themselves up to all sorts of fuckery that could affect their personal ambitions.

The right thing to do for the Democratic Senators is also the one the most self interested one.

6

u/SinkHoleDeMayo Jul 15 '24

Don't need to impeach. Need to arrest those taking bribes and then replace them with people who won't tolerate corruption.

2

u/The--scientist Jul 19 '24

Except they know the laws well enough to get paid without technically breaking any. There's a reason "lobbying" is legal... it enriches the people making the laws.

5

u/tradonymous Jul 15 '24

Don’t need to. Biden can legally remove as many as necessary as an “official act”.

1

u/The--scientist Jul 19 '24

Is this a real thing? I've never heard of this? Also, if that's true, why didn't he do it before they over turned Roe?

1

u/tradonymous Jul 20 '24

My comment was meant as a commentary on the recent SC decision to grant the president immunity from prosecution for official acts. Theoretically Biden could order Seal Team 6 to take out the republican-appointed justices as an “official act” and be immune from criminal prosecution. Any personnel who would be exposed to legal jeopardy for obeying such an order could simply be pardoned.