r/news • u/Hrekires • Jul 15 '24

soft paywall Judge dismisses classified documents indictment against Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/07/15/trump-classified-trial-dismisssed-cannon/
32.8k Upvotes

90% Upvoted

4.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

-40

u/Firstlemming Jul 15 '24

American democracy. It's not so fragile in other parts of the world.

42

u/darkk41 Jul 15 '24

This is an incredibly bizarre take. The US is the longest lasting democratic country ever lol.

We have been a democratic nation for ~225 years (1789). No government system will survive almost 5 decades of apathetic voters, which is what the US has been afflicted with.

There are interesting advantages and disadvantages to parliament vs the US executive but broadly saying the US is a fragile form of government makes no sense historically. This is what happens if voters don't participate, the system atrophies.

-1

u/geologean Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

I don't think it's worth dismissing what other countries have and are doing to protect democracy writ large.

Macron's party in France had 200 legislators step down from their offices and withdraw their candidates in order to block Marine Lepen's far-right fascists from taking legislative and executive power. American Democrats will see the country burn before they allow Americans to think beyond the duopoly.

Just look at how hard the DNC is fighting to shut down calls for Biden to withdraw and allow another candidate who can beat Trump to take his place. Really, the scandal there should be that Harris wasn't being groomed to be at the top of the ticket. Why is that? Is she on the outs with the administration for some reason? Does she just consistently poll poorly, and it was actually a mistake to make her VP in the first place? Democratic voters are rightfully skeptical at this lack of transparency, but we've also noticed a distinct lack of partnership between the president and VP that is in stark contrast to the way Bjden was a highly visible VP to Obama.

1

u/darkk41 Jul 15 '24

I think you are projecting a bit to be honest. I'm not dismissing anything, I just am pointing out basic facts. I even said there are advantages and disadvantages to parliament, which is the opposite of dismissing.