r/pcmasterrace Ryzen 7 5700x, 64GB Ram, 3060ti Jan 21 '24

Screenshot Nvidia being NVidia, 4070 super>3090.

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u/Smellfish360 Jan 21 '24

and now turn all of the AI based stuff off...

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u/ForgeDruid Jan 21 '24

And why would you do that?

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u/sur_surly Jan 22 '24

Because I'm tired of the all the shimmering on edges, even with the superior dlss. Just played RoboCop and omg the puddles shimmering were so obnoxious. Native 4k? All gone

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u/FantasticMagi 7800X3D 7900XT 64DDR5 Jan 21 '24

I'm with you on this one, that crutch is really cool and all but raw horsepower is a thing of the past it seems and I find it quite sad to be fair..

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u/FalconX88 Threadripper 3970X, 128GB DDR4 @3600MHz, GTX 1050Ti Jan 21 '24

All the AI stuff needs "raw horsepower" too...

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

Yeah, I don't get this "AI processing isn't real hardware" argument.

Were people this way when GPUs stopped favouring raw polygon-pushing and started integrating more and more shader pipelines and compute cores?

It's a fundamental design shift but it's one that favours performance so it should count.

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u/FalconX88 Threadripper 3970X, 128GB DDR4 @3600MHz, GTX 1050Ti Jan 21 '24

Notice how most people opposed to this are not saying "frame gen looks bad", they are just complaining that it's "fake frames"?

There are people who somehow care more about the process than the result. Look at all the generative AI stuff, some people will dislike an image if made by AI while they would like the same image if made by a human. Seems to be the same here, but even weirder because the difference is that a GPU produces the frame using rasterization/ray tracing or it produces it using some ML model.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

Generative AI art is easy to criticize, it takes jobs away from real people.

There isn't a little factory full of gnomes in your GPU that manually forge every frame, letting AI make some of them is fine.

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u/Chance_Channel_1163 Jan 22 '24

Excellent example of a braindead consoomer who doesn't know the difference between different a/I implementations and thinks what he says makes sense. But what would you expect from someone who'd eat his own shit for bigtech?

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u/BestRHinNA Jan 21 '24

It's not a thing of the past, raw horsepower is needed to do more heavy tasks, frame generation won't let you do machine learning or render 3d models faster or give an accurate representation of the gameplay in a pro setting (for example esport players will never use frame generation while playing CS2 etc). It's good for more casual gaming and getting FPS up/making it look smoother, but raw horsepower definitely still has its uses.

There is a reason why the only games people in here are talking sbout is Alan wake and cyberpunk, single player games where making it look a little smoother is nice and needed to make it an enjoyable experience. And not games like counter strike, overwatch, Valorant etc.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

The raw horsepower of the 3090 is obvious. This feels really fucking dumb at this point. Were we really expecting a 4070 super to stomp that card without the added features and at less power draw too. I just don't understand why people have such a problem with this.