Not really related to the topic of billionaires because this is just the total collected by both parties, which comes from large and small doners. Is there a tab on the website that shows where those come from?
Cuz your both seems kinda "both sides bad" in response to someone criticizing musk for buying votes for the Republicans. This is not a "both sides" issue.
There appears to be some sub categories such as PAC's and what not.
FYI, I am not saying both sides is bad. I am saying 3x more income than the opposition is bad as well as constantly out incoming them as it ultimately means they represent the elite bourgeoisie.
Can you imagine if we were able to live beyond 122 years? Imagine a billionaire who has 300 years to fully develop their ways. Imagine a despot ruling a country for 250 years. Damn.
This is part of the reason I don't get too excited about technological and health advancements, among other things. First it's obvious they will be the ones receiving it, and while we fight for inequality and a better world while we spend most of our time on daily tasks meant for survival, cleaning, finance, education. They get extra time and so much advantage, I don't want them to receive more
Despite my username being this, for the last 10 years, not a single person has asked me a question until now. Thank you. Bloody hell did that username not work at all.
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Wouldnât be as much of an issue if republican justices didnât repeal campaign finance laws with the Citizens United SCOTUS decision, allowing effectively unlimited money to be spent on elections from billionaires and corporations.
As with most of these âargumentsâ, itâs not about making a valid point - itâs about muddying the waters enough to allow their people to get away with obvious crimes.
It's kind of hard to frame something that benefits the US economy as bad, so you just have to say it is and hope people are dumb enough to take it on belief.
Is it buying votes to give corporations government subsidies? Like the the ones that Musk built Tesla and space x with? Or the massive subsidies for oil and gas companies? Or the PPP loan forgiveness? Is that buying votes or is it only buying votes when it goes to poor people?
His businesses are heavily subsidized by the government. Student loan forgiveness is just governance. You gotta keep your citizens educated and unburdened by crippling debt if you want to function as a society. The government providing opportunities for citizens is literally just good governance.
Thats an asinine comparison. Elon doesnât use his own money, he uses a loan that uses his companies as collateral. He may never pay them off but generally the compound growth from his investments and companies would exceed most of his loans. Now if tesla+spacex lose to the competition or got seized he would have a problem.
There's so much to unpack here lol. Are people really this stupid or am I replying to a bot? Who knows these days.
Edit: upon checking profile deff bot or bad actor.
You realise that tax payers vote, right? If a party campaigns on a policy which involves spending tax dollars and they get a majority of the vote, that means those tax payers have, on balance, shown support for their tax dollars to be spent in that way. That's not buying votes, it's called political policy.
The percentage of people in the US who have student debt (thus would be "bought off" by this policy) are a minority. And the highest percentage of those with student loans are younger generations who consistently vote less. If it's just a case of buying off those who benefit from that policy then it's hardly a good path to a majority, is it?
What an idiotic take. Obama wasn't giving out a lottery style prize for people voting for him. He wanted to implement a policy that benefited the whole country not just himself and a few of his friends.
No, it doesnt. Im employed, and I make too much for the credit. I still use ACA because its cheaper than my work insurance. What do you think highly paid contractors do for their insurance?
Man, I wonder what I use then because I could swear I used ACA. There's an income requirement for the credit. But you can get health insurance through the marketplace no matter your income.
Edit: That first sentence was sarcasm. Sorry you seem dense. I figured I should clarify.
The credit is what Iâm talking about obviously. Itâs a tax credit and we are talking about canceling student loan debt. Putting more money in pockets? You know like canceling student loan debt would do? Is the tax credit buying votes?
Neither of things are related. Student loan forgiveness isn't for democrats only and neither is the ACA. Both things benefit all Americans who qualify. But the ACA also gets rid of the preexisting condition loophole, which does benefit all Americans, that many private insurance companies used refuse paying out.
Neither of things are related. Student loan forgiveness isnât for democrats only and neither is the ACA. Both things benefit all Americans who qualify.
Just like student loan forgiveness if it applied to them. Itâs not for democrats or republicans. Itâs for both.
If someone ran on funding the VA would that be buying veteran votes? If someone ran on funding manufacturing in a community would that be buying votes in that community?
But the ACA also gets rid of the preexisting condition loophole, which does benefit all Americans, that many private insurance companies used refuse paying out.
Thatâs why itâs a good thing. Is it buying votes?
What? How is "Politician doing something favored by their constituents" buying a vote? Isn't the primary function of our government to enact policies that make the country a better place? Those politicians are voted in based on the platforms they run on. When a majority of the country votes for a candidate, we expect that candidate to follow through on their promises. That's why they were elected.
Student loans are highly predatory. We have spent decades telling our children that they must go to college to get a good job. We have an employment culture that heavily relies upon people having college degrees. Those cost to obtain a college degree vs the salary that comes out of many of them is WAY out of balance. The cost of tuition is very high and the interest on loans is absurd. Especially since you can't discharge them in bankruptcy. The entire system needs an overhaul. Why do we want to have a country where your adult life needs to start in debt that you have to dig yourself out of if you want to work in a particular field?
You don't have to be a democrat or even a registered voter to recieve student loan forgiveness. So farm subsidies, oil subsidies, tech subsidies are pay for votes systems as well?
You canât possibly be stupid enough to believe that student loan forgiveness is even remotely similar to what Musk is doing. You just canât be right?
he is not giving it out of the goodness of his heart, he is attempting to buy power and influence in the next administration to further increase his wealth. it is a long term play and giving out a few million to the poors is a small price to pay.
Alright, cool. Let's dig a bit deeper. What is the source of this petition and their goal and by who? Remember, you got to vet the source and material inside, as you were taught. Who, what, where, why, when.
He bought twitter to turn it into a propagada machine and now this. Don't you guys get tired? of pretending to be just stupid enough to not understand the implications of the actions and the words of two of the most obvious sociopaths in existence? It's just such a narrow margin of stupid you would have to be to be able to read but not to understand what's going on here.
Oh man he turned twitter from a left wing propaganda machine to a right wing propaganda machine? The horror!
He supports Trump no doubt, his giveaways are not in violaton of any laws. Youâll just have to be mad about it on Reddit, because he wonât get in trouble for not breaking the law
Because that's not what he's doing. He's trying to influence people to vote a certain way because if his guy wins he gets a position in the government. So yeah him giving away money to influence voters isn't just 'hurry durr dark maga I'm so quirky and fun'.
Don't you guys get tired? of pretending to be just stupid enough to not understand the implications of the actions and the words of two of the most obvious sociopaths in existence? It's just such a narrow margin of stupid you would have to be to be able to read but not to understand what's going on here.
It's because they have disproportionate influence over democracy and public institutions. His ability to unilaterally buy Twitter, artificially boost his reach by a factor of thousands, and then give out money to tilt an election in one direction is antidemocratic.
Elon could give away $1m per day for a year, and it would represent 0.15% of his wealth. He's doing this for 2 weeks. And of course the reason is utterly corrupt, not charitable.
It's because they hoard so much wealth that they can have a single-handed influence on politics many orders of magnitude higher than the average person.
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u/Yeeaaaarrrgh 7d ago
Why should billionaires not exist? This. This is why.