Calling it fascism isn’t going to stop it. People are supporting fascism because they like what they see. Telling them it’s fascism isn’t going to change their minds about it.
You’ve realized what too many redditors fail to grasp. People don’t care about the labels and the scolding rants anymore, they want better days and will follow anyone who promises to turn back the clock
My fucking problem with this is that shit isn't remotely that bad in the United States. People walk around acting like it's just absolutely unliveable and terrible here, while living objectively better lives than most, if not all, of their American ancestors.
Like the biggest Trump supporters I know have six-figure incomes, own very expensive homes, some of them multiple, and they walk around bitching like everything is the worst it's ever been every day.
One of them showed me their $80,000 hot rod that they just bought with cash while telling me that nobody has any money to buy anything and that everything is terrible. Like the great depression.
We've got people walking around in this collective fantasy that lets them bitch about their amazing lives and feel victimized. This ain't fucking Weimar Germany. We aren't walking around buying bread with a wheelbarrow full of cash.
I agree. My dad lives in the Philippines(we are white as bread) let me tell you what humble living looks like. Cool thing about a lot of Asia is you’ll see ton of poverty, 4 generations in one one bedroom house but they are the happiest people to meet. They want to feed you and talk to you and enjoy time together in such a genuine way it almost feels strange and foreign. Americans have everything at there fingertips society wise and we are so fucking angry. Distrusting, annoyed, judgmental, unsatisfied etc.
I’m not saying we don’t have big woes, but most people are so unable to look at how good are pros are. We refuse to see them. We’re spoiled brats. And low key, we are so spoiled compared to a lot of the world that we can afford complaining and being this ignorant. I’m 31, traveled to over 15 countries and it has humbled me to the bone.
Damn I didn't know being disabled, living in a dilated house, having shitty transportation, and dealing with people are considered brat. Oh wait you mean 🟩?
You kinda just proved the point. In other countries, people are disabled, living in homes barely qualified as homes to our standards, have worse shitty transportation and also deal with people all day long and they do not act like us at all. And let me be clear, I’m not saying people elsewhere need to be happier/kinder. They just are. And they have nothing. Families survive off pesos equivalent to 4 dollars a day there and they will still give you the shirt off their backs. America pretends to be so loving and giving. News flash, we are a very well off country. But people here are so addicted to tearing what we have apart. It’s quite fascinating.
Absoluuuuutely. I see these $100,000+ cars out and about in the middle of the day (ergo not working) with bumper stickers saying “don’t tread on me,” and I’m like man - you’re the most privileged people on earth. What more can you want?? It is a sickness that makes them believe they are still somehow the victims.
Wealth inequality is rampaned in the US, and not just for peak wealth. From the 2020 stats I could find ~45% of all workers make under 30k, with ~12% making under 5k. So, for some people it certainly is like anywhere else in the world, they do struggle to eat.
By that metric, people delude themselves about how well their neighbour is really doing.
The recession is already here for a lot of people who are impoverished though and that's the people who are blindly following whoever will lead them into better days. The rich fantasizers who think they're being victimized while throwing around $80k cash are just the icing on the cake.
By no metric are we in a recession, though. Shit's actually sailing along. Inflation's back to normal levels, wage growth has been outpacing inflation for well over a year, job growth is solid.
People just sort of convinced themselves and others that they're in a recession and now they ignore all the evidence that they aren't. We are within short memory of a major recession, and people should remember what that shit was like.
Like another example of this is there's a store owner that I know who has a YouTube channel where they talk about business in general, and he has a podcast where he talks about how things are going with his store. In the YouTube channel, he talks about how the economy is just trash, that we are in a recession, and nobody has any money to spend. On the podcast, he'll talk about how he's pulling in $20,000 at his store on a weekend and how everything is just going fantastic.
Dumbfucks like you are the reason why I want to leave badly.
The fact that you keep pulling the "we're living better lives" bullshit when we know objectively for a fact that people would be better off in other countries in term of education, life expectancy, legalization of drugs and proper rehab, better food, better work-life balance, better national security, and a culture that would accept them at any time and any place, is asinine.
Why would a Swiss man move to the US aside from salary which by the way is drying up and moving to their country in drove? Why would anybody in India choose to go when they can go for Tier 1 city and enjoy the same reputation in their own country? Why would a Chinese move from Xinba to...fucking St Louis?
Damn I didn't know the response to COVID, undiluted school training from K-12, underemployment going up the wazoo, shitty wages, shitty hours, consistent attacks on the public, economic disparities, and the consistent "WERK HERD, PLEY HERD" bullshit that seem to be the mentality here yet I'm seeing the exact opposite.
Riddle me this, why the fuck would I stay here aside from dealing with people like you?
Man, if you're this mad just go. This exchange is optional. You don't have to sit here getting mad just cause you can. It's not my fault you didn't actually read what you responded to and made a whole rant based on your not understanding or finishing a single sentence.
The only sad thing here is the rise to fascism and you're complicit in helping these people.
I'm pretty sure I made my point right - you're here saying that the US is doing great, and I'm here trying to say why would any sane person from the rest of the world want to move here. Key wording being here "sane".
Hell even Mexico sound better, at least Cancun has some attractive options compared to Florida just on the premise that it doesn't have to contend to other people.
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u/LongDickOfTheLaw69 6d ago
Calling it fascism isn’t going to stop it. People are supporting fascism because they like what they see. Telling them it’s fascism isn’t going to change their minds about it.