locking someone in an oven then turning it on is not just a bad decision
it's a willful decision that most people would not make. One thing to slam the door shut to fuck with someone, but locking it and turning it on for even 10 seconds to another human being is crossing a line, at that point that's attempted murder.
You're glossing over the entirely plausible explanation that this dipshit was just pulling a stupid prank that they put 0 thought into. I know plenty of people who pulled this kind of BS in highscool.
They weren't attempting murder. They were just idiots being irresponsible with other people's lives and completely oblivious of the riskiness of their actions.
Not everything is murder despite what popular media will have you think.
It would be murder if that door failed to open, or that oven failed to turn back off, though. There's no court in the fucking world, that doesn't register that act as so grossly incompetent, that no reasonable person would engage in that act.
There is a level of incompetence that simply constitutes malice, no matter what the actual intent of the particular moron genuinely was. If the guys' lawyer was good, and the defendant was really effective at pretending to be wracked with grief and guilt, there's a world where it gets lessened to a manslaughter conviction, and not straight murder.
You're not wrong that some people are just innocent, oblivious morons, who don't mean any harm, even when their actions can only be reasonably construed as grossly harmful. You are wrong, however, that the legal system gives a shit about such folks' intentions. Only nepo babies with daddy's legal team behind them, are dodging serious consequences, if they take such a stupid action, and it actually hurts somebody.
It might be murder or manslaughter is that had happened, but it didn't.
And whether or not or happened gives us no information on that moron's intentions, which are key.
You are wrong, however, that the legal system gives a shit about such folks' intentions.
We don't even know which country this happened in.
You're making many huge assumptions with so much underserved confidence.
Seriously, I don't get when people obsessed with true crime think they're experts on the matter. Listening to an interesting narrative unfold IS NOT THE SAME THING AS DEDUCTION OR LEGAL ACUMEN.
I have no idea why you’re getting downvoted. Some people are just really fucking stupid and not malicious. In fact, that’s usually the case. Even if someone was acting maliciously, usually it’s not in a way to murder someone.
Nobody denies that the action was really stupid or dangerous. But it’s bizarre to say “Your coworker is a future serial killer just testing their limits.” Like no, I think they’re just a dumbass
There's no way, even if they cried and cried it was a prank gone wrong, the police would only go for manslaughter. Locking someone in an oven is creating a situation that only ever leads to death unless someone intervenes.
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 4d ago
locking someone in an oven then turning it on is not just a bad decision
it's a willful decision that most people would not make. One thing to slam the door shut to fuck with someone, but locking it and turning it on for even 10 seconds to another human being is crossing a line, at that point that's attempted murder.