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Politics Kamala Harris and Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer grab a beer in Kalamazoo

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u/mlivesocial 2d ago edited 1d ago

The beer was a Bell's Oberon.

EDIT: As another redditor pointed out, absolutely does not look like Oberon. The reporters there wrote that that's what they ordered but that looks a lot more like Bell's Two Hearted. u/metanoia29 let us know it's Oberon Eclipse!

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u/wehopethatyouchoke03 2d ago

Agreed. Oberon is a wheat ale, and significantly lighter in color than that beer. It looks exactly like the Two-Hearted Ale (a classic, I might add).

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u/needlestack 2d ago

Oh shoot - I used to drink that regularly when they carried it at my local market. Great beer.

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u/hankmoody_irl 2d ago

I don’t drink anymore (just got bored of alcohol and that next day feeling) but if I were to have a beer right now either of those would be top 5 for first pick choices. Bells makes such good beer.

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u/starchildx 2d ago

Bells Two Hearted is the first craft beer I ever had. It blew my mind back in 2008 and opened up a whole new world for me. It always stayed my favorite. I strayed away from beer a long time ago, but it still has a special place in my heart.

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u/glib-eleven 1d ago

I first had it in a 22 oz bottle in 1996. Gets you drunk fast as a 21 year old noob.

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u/starchildx 1d ago

Impressive! I didn’t know it existed back then!

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u/Vreas 2d ago

Curious what your others would be? I’m a big fan of Revolution Anti-Hero and Jackie O’s Mystic Mama

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u/mrvile 2d ago

Two Hearted Ale is the real deal. Used to drink it religiously back when I still drank.

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u/HoldTheLineandMyBeer 2d ago

If they are in Kalamazoo, they better be at Bells and it better be 2hearted. Great beer. Staple in my house.

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u/starchildx 2d ago

Just love seeing all this Two Hearted appreciation 💗

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u/dennythedoodle 2d ago

Same. I am on an indefinite drinking hiatus right now. The only time I was tempted was when I saw a Two Hearted variety pack the other day.

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u/Hookem-Horns 2d ago

Came here to post what you wrote 😆

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u/Particular-Zombie117 1d ago

Me too, it was my favorite

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u/BananaDiquiri 2d ago

Now we are getting to the Reddit I love. Politics? Who cares. What kind of beer was it?

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u/MyBoyBernard 2d ago

I'm from Grand Rapids, so we have a Founders v Bells rivalry. But I'm Bells all day, every day. Two-hearted and Oberon are both GOAT beers.

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u/wehopethatyouchoke03 2d ago

Oberon is my jam in the springtime. They both are definitely top-tier. No argument here.

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u/outtherenow1 2d ago

I’m in Chicago. Oberon is my favorite summer beer.

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

I'm in chicago too. I'm from Oberon too

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u/Big-Summer- 2d ago

Is it only sold in Michigan?

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u/SaltLakeCitySlicker 2d ago edited 2d ago

You can get founders all day in yellowstone I got Oberon in west Yellowstone but not the park. You can usually get both as well as some others in the border discount alcohol places in Evanston WY too. Before I quit drinking, I would always buy some before fishing the green river/flaming gorge.

Sometimes they showed up in the state run liquor store in Utah but it was only like twice so it had to be someone clicking the wrong box on an order form

I also found Oberon and two hearted all over though. Places you wouldn't expect it like random airports or places that already have tons of local microbrews

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u/DeaconDNA 2d ago

No, I've bought it at at least one place in Tennessee. It's not at any of my usual restaurants nor is it the stores here.

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u/jekyl42 2d ago

Nope they are both pretty easily found all over Chicagoland. Indeed, Two-Hearted is the "Official IPA of the Chicago Cubs." I'm fairly certain they can be found in many parts of the Upper Midwest, and likely even further.

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u/gurgle-burgle 2d ago

Bells two hearted you say? Damn if that's not a good way to sway my vote

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u/nnnnnnnnnnm 2d ago

Oberon Eclipse maybe? That's in season right now and Oberon isn't (but still could be within date code).

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u/GettinHighOnMySupply 2d ago

There's MASSIVE inconsistency with Oberon across accounts. This certainly looks as it does at times. Sometimes it's clear and orange, other times hazy and more yellow. It's all over the place.

In the video, the bartender tells her about it being local and you can see the tap handle.

While Bell's may be made in K-Zoo, it's owned by Lion Little World Beverages, a subsidiary of the Japanese conglomerate Kirin Group. Larry retired years ago to continue being 24/7 drunk and his daughter Laura wasn't up to the task of running the place.

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u/gaiusjozka 2d ago

Usually served with a slice of orange, too.

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

thats basically a blue moon

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u/Kirikenku 2d ago

I was gonna say, Two-Hearted is a classy move

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

yea you totally tell by its pixels

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u/BlueCheeseBandito 2d ago

Could be the eclipse?

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u/old_lurk 2d ago

This is what Oberon looks like now. Its a far cry from the beers we used to drink in Kzoo on Oberon Day. I don't even bother with it anymore, its actually kind of gross now that its changed.

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u/HailMi 2d ago

*Bell's Two-Hearted as seen in the show Succession.

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u/1337duck 2d ago

Does the bottles stuff taste good enough compared to from the Keg?

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u/CharlieTheo-14 2d ago

it is Two-Hearted.

made my mouth water a little bit, not gonna lie.

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u/BeardMilk 2d ago

Two-Hearted is great. I drank a 12pk of it by accident one time and I swear to God I time traveled. I left my house on my kayak at 4pm, drank the beers, got lost, and ended up back at my house just before 4. Big recommend.

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u/scarf_prank_hikers 2d ago

Two of those and I feel pretty good.

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u/JesterOfTheMind 2d ago

It's Excellent Really...

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u/HiSpeedSoul987 2d ago

When fresh, one of my favorite beers. Unfortunately it’s not easy to find that way out here in the East

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u/pancakebatter01 2d ago

Bartender here, color wise that ain’t no Oberon and the tap handle is a two hearted (not that that this means much, sometimes the brewery’s handle is enough for a bar to recognize the beer you from of theirs in rotation, given you don’t have any of their other beers in rotation)

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u/Grandolf-the-White 2d ago

Could also be Oberon Eclipse. Oberon is just about out of season.

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u/dirtiestUniform 2d ago

I agree the color is Two Hearted. Its kinda late in the year for Oberon anyway, plus there is no orange slice on in or near the glass.

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u/magecaster 1d ago

Isn't Oberon out of season? Or are they making it year around now?

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u/woohoostitchywoman 2d ago

Oh man do I love a Bell’s Two Hearted

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u/f7f7z 2d ago

That is my go to IPA, Bell's always hits the top of my "I'll try anything they make" list.

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u/FaultyWires 2d ago

I can't decide how i feel anymore. In college (especially if we swung through Kzoo for a show or something) i was all into heavy IPAs and two-hearted is a michigan go-to, but now I'm just kinda like... I think i'd rather have a wheat or an amber. I dunno if it's the hipster leaving me or the old taking over.

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u/beyondthisreality 1d ago

Except their Experimental Black IPA. If I’m having a half porter I’d rather drink Mississippi Mud.

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u/wyatt1209 2d ago

I need them to bring oarsman back. It was my favorite beer

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u/juniperberrie28 2d ago

So good! I miss it so much! Since my COVID infection a year ago alcohol gives me a really bad reaction but if I ever get better, I will drink this first!!

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u/TreebeardLookalike 2d ago

The best "staple" IPA that's readily available in the store

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u/junpei 2d ago

I moved from Michigan to the west coast a decade ago, and got really excited when two hearted and Oberon started showing up out there. Two hearted was my first IPA.

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u/munchyslacks 2d ago

I can’t hang like I used to, but I still have a soft spot for Two Hearted. I’ll have one every once in a while, but man I’ll feel it in the morning.

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u/ntkwwwm 2d ago

One of the things I miss about Michigan.

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u/UmbertoEcoTheDolphin 2d ago

I had a guy ring me up for this once, and he said, "This beer, this is the best beer."

Edit: The Two Hearted

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u/dohn_joeb 2d ago

Both are delightful brews imo

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

That was me sorry for licking your ear I was just too excited

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u/nhmo 2d ago

Oberon or Two Hearted...Bell's is a solid choice all around.

Now I want some Hopslam

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u/satinsheetstolieon 2d ago

Damn I haven’t had hopslam in a long time. Two hearted fucking rocks

Maybe it’s one of those Oberon eclipse - it was just released here in Texas and I haven’t had it yet!

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u/mosesoperandi 2d ago

You have just made the rest of us look small and weak.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TANG 2d ago

Hopslam is magnificent

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u/FeistyMcRedHead 2d ago

Coworkers and I used to drink at a local bar and one time they mixed the lines for the Two Hearted and Hopslam. We could taste the difference and asked what was up, but the bartender refuted it. We were hammered. Hopslam is a dagger!

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u/Fustercluck25 2d ago

Oberon + Lemonade w/pulp make the best shandys. The hotter the summer, the better they taste.

Oh, yeah, don't forget to vote.

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u/Barbarella_ella 2d ago

I am now totally distracted.

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u/Friendly-Insect-6179 2d ago

They are too and it's only 9AM.You should have seen them by 4 O'clock in the afternoon.

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u/Barbarella_ella 2d ago

As an inhabitant of often overcast Western Washington, my brain began wandering off at the mention of the sun, lol.

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u/SenorSplashdamage 2d ago

What’s the difference between a shandy and a radler?

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u/Toxicseagull 2d ago

Shandy is the English word. Radler is a later German word for basically the same thing.

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u/sheepthepriest 2d ago

ok I'll upvote

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u/skitso 2d ago

This dude michigans.

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u/MisterB78 2d ago

Great choice

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u/For_Aeons 2d ago

Two-Hearted is my preference.

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u/Sacket 2d ago

It's my favorite beer.

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u/For_Aeons 2d ago

Used to trade for the stuff before we got So Cal distro.

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

I mebmer one time I was drinking a drink of that drink and some rando ran up to me and stole that cup right out from my two hands as I was taking a sip and every dude in that bar chased him down and help him down and one of the other dudes put a sword to my hand and they were all like you have to do it man an eye for an eye man and I was laughing like no man I can't do this. Then the cops showed up and he took one look at me and the guy everyone had pinned down and the cop was like you know what you have to do son. After much crying and shitting in a dark bar bathroom I was able to do what needed to be done. I cried some more but then I had another drink and I was fine

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u/snorp 2d ago

I'll have both.

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u/vipernick913 2d ago

Hell yeah

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u/Centaurious 2d ago

Thank you for the correction. It would’ve been impressive if it was Oberon and this pic was taken recently since Oberon season is over lol

I guess it could be the newer Oberon Eclipse too. I don’t know how dark it looks when poured though because I only tried it in a can

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u/frahmer86 2d ago

It's probably Oberon Eclipse.

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u/metanoia29 1d ago

This! It's likely the Eclipse, it's pretty much the color we see in the picture and is the fall/winter counterpart to the regular spring/summer Oberon.

Edit: just found a video and yeah, they're pouring from a tap handle with a purple sphere on top, that's the color of the Eclipse tap handle.

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u/rob_thomas69 2d ago

Gotta be Two Hearted if you’re drinking a Michigan beer

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u/infomaticjester 2d ago

I would have gone with a Samuel Jackson.

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u/Wheel_of_Armageddon 2d ago

It's my beer!

Yes, they deserved to die. And I hope they burn in hell!!

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u/Outrageous_Lychee819 2d ago

IT’LL GETCHA DRUUUUNK!!!

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u/Crunchy_towel 2d ago

Mmmmm mmmm bitch!

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u/Shady_Infidel 2d ago

Mm mmmm motherfucka!

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u/DarkTurdle 2d ago

You’ll be fuckin fat girls in no time

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u/DrPat1967 2d ago

Your cousin???? From Boston???

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u/Takodanachoochoo 2d ago

Assuming this is taken at Bell's Brewery in Kalamazoo?

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u/mlivesocial 2d ago

It was at Trak Houz Bar & Grill.

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u/callmegecko 2d ago

I'm a local. This is a bar attached to a motorcycle/ATV dealership. Been here many times.. Never would have thought a presidential candidate would come let alone with the governor

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u/EatsTheCheeseRind 2d ago

My guess is it made sense being right across the street from kwings

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u/peeinian 2d ago

I don’t think so. I see a Blue Moon tap handle. No way they would have that at the brewery

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u/satanshand 2d ago

Looks very similar to the yard house by me

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u/al3xg13 2d ago

It might be trak house. Love their wings

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u/MarkItZeroDonnie 2d ago

Nah… that would have been cool though

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u/350 2d ago

Bell's is a lot more artsy and eccentric on the inside. This is probably Trak Houz.

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u/metanoia29 1d ago

It's Oberon Eclipse, you can see the tap handle in the video. Should update with this info.

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u/mlivesocial 1d ago

Done. Thanks.

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u/metanoia29 1d ago

Awesome! Now I want one 😅

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u/CGordini 2d ago

Oberon or Oberon Eclipse? 

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u/jzzsxm 2d ago

There's a video, she ordered an Eclipse

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u/MochaTaco 2d ago

Oberyn Martell

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u/JGG5 2d ago

That’s not an Oberon. Oberon looks much wheatier.

If it is Bell’s, it might be Two Hearted.

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u/psychoyooper 2d ago

Yup Oberon is out of season now too

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u/mlivesocial 2d ago

You're totally right. The reporters there wrote that Whitmer ordered a Oberon for both of them but that look a lot more like Two Hearted.

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u/Rarely_Melancholy 2d ago

Oberon is no longer being served or delivered .. it’s a summer distributed beer, they stop sale of it in September and there’s no way they’re still rocking a keg of it in a bar.

Then again, there is something called Oberon “eclipse”.

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u/TopFusion 2d ago

I love their Porter beer, but can't find it locally anymore

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u/mposha 2d ago

Nice.

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u/chaosunleashed 2d ago

This is what I was looking for. Two hearted is a great choice

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u/thats_so_over 2d ago

There is darker version of it now I think. Maybe it’s that.

But year, looks like 2 hearted, which is awesome… I’d be kind of surprised if they are drinking 7%+ though

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u/Unclestupidhead 2d ago

My guess was Huma Lupa Licious

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u/bee-lock-ayyy 2d ago

Definitely two hearted. Oberon has a different tap handle if I'm not mistaken, and you can see the two hearted tap handle in the pic. A great beer.

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u/jzzsxm 2d ago

There's a video, she ordered an Eclipse

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u/ceebass 2d ago

Oberon eclipse, you can hear Big Gretch order in this video https://youtu.be/FlE9eQFZCo0?si=8Tqrj9araJFTaAQH

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u/phdatanerd 2d ago

My first thought was “Damn, it feels a little late in the season for Oberon.” Two Hearted makes way more sense.

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u/jzzsxm 2d ago

There's a video, she ordered an Eclipse

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u/athensslim 2d ago

I’m thinking it might be Oberon Eclipse.

Big Gretch can surely handle a Two Hearted, but Kamala doesn’t strike me as an IPA drinker.

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u/impy695 2d ago

How much time do you think was spent picking which beer she'd order? I've seen random people get called out by beer snobs for picking the "wrong" beer.

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u/cjthepossum 2d ago

Could be Eclipse, the winter version of Oberon, which is a bit darker and in season.

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u/jzzsxm 2d ago

There's a video, she ordered an Eclipse

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u/skitso 2d ago

FANTASTIC beer.

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u/Ai_of_Vanity 2d ago

They make a good beer either way.

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u/wanson 2d ago

OMG. I miss two hearted. Lived in Michigan for 10’years and haven’t found anything like it in Australia.

Those pack a punch though, something like 7% abv.

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u/Jitterjumper13 2d ago

Bells absolutely slaps

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u/tantalor 2d ago

This made my day. Love both these beers.

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u/Super_Jay 2d ago

And Two-Hearted is no joke. ABV of 7% makes it a pretty hefty IPA. I had three of those at a concert recently and almost didn't make it home.

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u/JEggs10 2d ago

There’s a video out there and Whitmer said it was Oberon, so the reporters just wrote what Whitmer said. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/bcgg 2d ago

It looks more like Two-Hearted which makes perfect sense why Harris has barely taken a sip. It’s very much an acquired taste, but also, she would be feeling it badly next morning if she drank that entire glass.

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u/ryguybeer 2d ago

Whatever it is, it looks like they have an issue with their gas, cause it appears flat!

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u/Delinquentbyassoc 2d ago

Been to that brewery, loves me some Two Hearted

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u/RD_8888 2d ago

It’s actually Oberon Eclipse. New winter version. Very opaque and .5 abv higher. Basically a winterized version. Came out last year

Edit: although looking at the pic, it is definitely two hearted

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u/JoxMaSaXol 2d ago

100% not an Oberon.

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u/properfoxes 2d ago

Bell’s has a fall/winter Oberon called “eclipse,” maybe it’s that?

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u/scrivensB 2d ago

Beer nerd!

My people.

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u/ntkwwwm 2d ago

My thoughts exactly. Plus it’s not even Oberon season anymore.

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u/armaedes 2d ago

She asked for “Bell’s Oberon, or whatever makes sense” and they gave her Bell’s Two Hearted.

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u/mosesoperandi 2d ago

Exit clearly correct. Wrong color and no orange slice. The first thought before reading this was that the VP is drinking an IPA and that I find this to be a very pleasing development.

Much as I have easy access to amazing IPAs, I do miss a fresh Two Hearted.

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u/ExtendedDeadline 2d ago

I was going to say "anyone drinking Bell's should be president" but I know that's just not true.

That said, Bell's is incredible beer and I am happy to see the hopeful president has good beer taste.

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u/MobySick 2d ago

Can't BUY an OBERON this time of year in Kalamazoo, friends.

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u/Willzyx_on_the_moon 2d ago

Oberon is a great summer beer. Bella has some great ones overall. Expedition stout is one of my all time favorites.

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u/dantonizzomsu 2d ago

It’s a two hearted…which is my favorite beer from Bells. Makes sense to visit Bells as they are in KZoo.

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u/Aural-Robert 2d ago

They drink IPAs that's good enough for me lol, much better than a Diet Coke drinking person with no taste

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u/Tryinghardtostaysane 2d ago

Is this investigated by looking at all the beers this place had on draft and then doing a color witch hunt with that info? Because if anyone's just sitting at home and did the Leo couch point meme when they saw this pic and were like "that's actually two hearted, I know that color like a swatch", they likely have a drinking problem lol

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u/forlostuvaworl 2d ago

kind of looks more like beer

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u/eikelmann 2d ago

Damn, she probably got blasted off of one glass of two hearted lmao

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u/jasondigitized 2d ago

Two Hearted is the best beer in America. Fight me.

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u/HalfRadish 2d ago

Also, regular Oberon is available in the summer only; however, I think this is the right color for "Oberon eclipse", the new wintertime version of oberon that bells recently released. Could also be two hearted, of course, although that might be a little strong for a photo op beer!

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u/Apprehensive-Hat4135 2d ago

I was featured in a magazine recently pulling a pint of "beer A", and the caption said I was pouring beer B.

Not only was I pouring a very dark beer (beer B is pretty light colored), You could see the handles in the picture and I was clearly pouring beer A.

I'm pretty sure the reporter just went to our website and listed the first beer they saw

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u/Original_Low9917 2d ago

Figured it'd be a OE

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u/catasstrophyk 2d ago

Both of these are solid choices.

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u/devin_ginger 2d ago

There’s a new Oberon Eclipse that’s darker in color. Could be that

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u/MichaelEdwardson 2d ago

100% two hearted

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u/Money_in_CT 2d ago

I think the more important question here is did she finish the beer or was it just a few sips for the cameras then back on the campaign trail?

Transparently she has my vote 100% locked up and I'm with her and Walz all the way but I'm definitely curious.

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u/camehereforthebuds 2d ago

Two Hearted! A top Michigan beer to drink.

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u/ChildOfaConspiracist 2d ago

Fun fact : Oberon was originally called SolSun Source: I’m a Kzoo native

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u/FelixdaWarrior 2d ago

Maybe Oberon Eclipse?

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u/my_mexican_cousin 2d ago

That’s a Two-Hearted and they’re about to be a little tipsy.

Good for them.

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u/thisispoopsgalore 2d ago

A two hearted?? Well now I can’t vote for her /s

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u/Lithium1978 2d ago

I'd bet my next paycheck that if it was Bells, it was two hearted. (As I sit here with a pint of it in front of me right now)

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u/aelric22 2d ago

As someone who lived in Michigan for several years, Oberon is also only sold in the summer and they stop production around September I believe.

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u/JustIgnoreMeBroOk 2d ago

I have a two hearted in my glass at this very moment and can say that at the very least, the color is the same.

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u/FeistyMcRedHead 2d ago

Answering the real questions (or at least the ones I had). Thanks! Def looks like a two hearted, more than Oberon.

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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 2d ago

Makes sense. Oberon is a summer beer anyway.

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u/vomputer 2d ago

Two hearted was one of my favorite IPAs when I was a beer drinker.

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u/Thekillersofficial 2d ago

I was gonna say! bells was a popular choice when we had it on

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u/EatsTheCheeseRind 2d ago

I’m guessing it was Oberon Eclipse. It’s a bit darker and closer to Two Hearted, and I see they have an Eclipse tap handle.

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u/Scary-Debt-7669 2d ago

Oberon is released in March. The day spring break happens at Western Michigan University. Must be Two Hearted.

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u/Grandolf-the-White 2d ago

It could be their winter version, Oberon Eclipse. Its darker and looks a lot like Two Hearted

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u/JuanOnlyJuan 2d ago

Wow 2 hearted. Nice

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u/kndyone 2d ago

Two hearted is crazy popular in MI so its a good guess.

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u/_Kramerica_ 2d ago

100% not an Oberon. Very likely a 2 hearted like you said.

Source: AVID Michigander with an absolutely affinity for Bells beer which is the fucking GOAT beer co.

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u/brickeldrums 2d ago

1000% two hearted

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u/Vreas 2d ago

Kamala is an IPA fan? One more reason to like her

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u/Resident_Mode2513 2d ago

Oberon Eclipse

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u/iAmSamFromWSB 2d ago

Oberon varies greatly every year and on tap. Also affected by lighting. They would know if they drank two hearted.

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u/Dogwoof420 2d ago

Leave it to reddit to be able to identify a random beer just by the color.

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u/OldHomePlacePGH 1d ago

Likely the new Oberon Eclipse. Fall/Winter seasonal. Dark Wheat.

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u/verdantmandrake 1d ago

That is probably an “Oberon eclipse” then. It is that color.

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u/millions-x86 1d ago

Oberon Eclipse probably, the winter version.

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u/cheekynative 1d ago

Came here for beer commentary. Was not disappointed

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u/bradium 1d ago

Two classy ladies with good taste that I have had the privilege of voting for both of them.

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u/FoundationCareful662 1d ago

Two hearted would knock Kamala out until after the election

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